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Nihilive
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posted March 10, 2006 01:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nihilive     Edit/Delete Message
Now, I've like to think that I've had a pretty good grasp on my rage and that, thankfully, it has never exploded as an adult. It has come close a few times, but I found myself running the consequences of my actions through my head and weighing the pros and cons of my outbursts. When I was younger, mostly in elementary school, I was what you could consider a bully, (ha!). I picked a lot of fights and let a lot of little stupid things bother me. I once beat a kid to a pulp for writing on me with chalk! When I was about 14, my friend, the aquarian in a previous post, was messing with a willow tree branch and hit me in the face with it. He realized what he had done and immediately began apologizing for it incessantly. Did I care? No. I took a willow tree whip and started flailing him with it until his mother intervened between us.

Recently, the same "friend" was messing around, strongarming me to keep me from playing some of his music in front of a girl he liked in fear he'd be embarassed. As persistant as I am, I kept doing it in hopes he'd give up, but he didn't. He inadvertantly got my girlfriend riled up which I did not like, and myself as well. I was extremely close to just popping him a good one while he sat in the back seat, throwing him out of the car, and leaving him in downtown Detroit at 4AM without a care in my mind. Now, I weighed the options in my head and decided to just sternly tell him that I did not approve of his actions, and refrained from beating the pulp out of him.

I do not think it is healthy, but sometimes I feel as if I am just going to snap at these people and cause far greater damage than I ever have as an adolescent. I am just afraid that I could end up killing someone out of rage, but I'd like to think I had a hold of it. It is just that so many people anger me greatly, and I never know when I'm just going to explode.

Just a vent, mostly. Heh.

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gert
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posted March 10, 2006 09:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for gert     Edit/Delete Message
You should maybe get into aggressive sports for the outlet of your anger,or look at your mars aspects to pluto or the moon as the moon square mars aspect makes an individual very sensitive and prone to emotional outbursts.

In a way though I must say that I kinda admire you.I have my asc in Taurus and Mars in Libra so for me blowing my top off doesn't happen every so often.In a sense I wish it did because most people take advantage and assume I wont retaliate since I am such a nice guy.

Once during a family reunion I snapped and I must say that it wasn't pretty.My cousin was relentlessly making fun of me and at first I brushed it off but he kept on tugging at me and then I snapped.

Well he is in hospital now and I was thrown in a cell to "cool off".Suppressing anger is never a good thing because it mutates to something else ie depression,diseases,low self esteem or sexual problems.It is good to let off some steam now and again,its only human.I wish I could get angry more often because despite what had happened to me after the outburst,letting all that aggression out was therapeutic.

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pidaua
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posted March 10, 2006 02:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message
Anger Management therapy should be considered. Most people do not get into the rages that you described and if you have to really concentrate and use self-control NOT to fly into those rages, you are only supressing the inevitable.

I was with a Bull that used every ounce of self-control to supress his violent rage. Should he reach a specific point, as he had in the past, he would see "red" and then nothing at all.. only the result of the damage he inflicted.

He also came from a violent upbringing where is was normal for he and his 3 brothers to beat each other to a pulp while expecting mom and dad to come home and do the same to them for fighting. It didn't matter who started the fight - ALL the boys would get a butt-whooping for it.

Discussing anything with him would usually involve him walking away because he would go from peeved to red rage within minutes. He would need to leave because he knew he could / would cause major damage to ME. There were a few times when he could not control his anger and luckily stopped before I ended up dead or anyone else around to attempted to intervene when he "went off" on me. No wonder we aren't together LOL... but he also is a narcissist, so that plays into the whole situation.

We would talk about tempers - his "irritation" was my "anger". Meaning, to me being irritated is nothing more than an annoyance. I seldom get angry (even for a Sag.. but I do have a smart mouth and a temper when provoked). If he said that he was irritated with me, that would mean that if I talked to him for even a few more minutes the result would be something being thrown against a wall.. be it a shoe, phone or me.

If you feel it has to be "controlled" then you need more help, honestly... just like an alcoholic must live one day at a time, so does someone with anger issues. In the former situation the alcoholic can attend counseling and call someone when the urge strikes.. that is why it is important for the anger to also be handled that way.

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Nihilive
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posted March 10, 2006 06:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nihilive     Edit/Delete Message
My Mars is in Capricorn... whatever that means. Still new to understanding all facets of these things.

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pidaua
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posted March 10, 2006 06:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message
I really don't think Mars has alot to do with it. My ex-Taurus's Mars was in Pisces (not exactly known for confrontation and fighting).

Usually it is something more... he had Mars square Neptune (Sagittarius) and opposing his Moon (Virgo) while it also squared his Mercury in Gemini.

His Sun was in his first house (Taurus Sun / Taurus rising) - which created a very dynamic and in your fast person. His Sun also shared that first house with his Merc in Gemini (Gemini was a major part of that first house).

He was also apt to carry a grudge and wanted to take revenge out on others through subversive tactics (like dropping seeds of doubt about his boss in order to try to get him discredited).

What aspects to other planets does your natal Mars make?

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sue g
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posted March 10, 2006 06:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sue g     Edit/Delete Message
My moon and mars are conjunct in Taurus.....I can explode like a volcano, if I am not careful.

Yeah its important to have an outlet....for me sex, dancing, singing, laughing and crying really help, especially the sex !!!

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pidaua
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posted March 10, 2006 06:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message
Yep.. I think it is all in the nature of the person.

If I am in a relationship and the sex drops off, then I get pretty p1ssy and irritable. I am an active person as it is, so I normally wear myself out physically (and mentally with my work) but I also need that sexual outlet - but not in a way to release any tension - mostly because it is how I show affection within a relationship - especially since I am not prone to being a mushy kind of person.

As far as Temper? It is rare for me to explode- I will be a bit testy and say a few things to the person (mostly sarcastic - but I hate nagging as well). I am not a yeller but I will take off if I am extremely upset. In fact, the angrier I get, the more calm I tend to become. Basically, I end up clenching my jaw and laying into the person verbally - then it's over.

I can be upset for a bit -but again, it doesn't last long. My new guy- Mr. Leo kind of laughs at me. He saw me at my p1ssiest the other day and said "that's it.. that is your temper?" I said "Yep, but keep in mind, if I try to talk about something a few times and nothing changes, I don't blow up - I just leave and never come back LOL"

THAT may be a combination of Mars in Pisces along with the Sag tendancy to jump ship after things don't work out.

Now Mr. Leo has Mars in Taurus - he said he has had a pretty bad temper off and on in the past - but he is actually a calm person (from what I can see). He also is very physical and has a demanding job (flying the drones for the Army).

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lioneye68
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posted March 10, 2006 09:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lioneye68     Edit/Delete Message
Pid, you sound alot like me lol...I don't get mad, I just get apathetic and bored. (Sag Rising)

Funny about the Taurus & violence. The 3 times in my life that I have become violent, were all due to a Taurus, who learned better that day. I swear, this sign can drive me to violence. I dunno what it is. My sister, 2 years older, tormented me and controlled me for years, till I was 13, and I started fighting back. One day, while she was belittling me in front of her friends, I just decided to punch her in the face, and I damn near broke her nose. She was bleeding and crying for almost and hour. I ran away and hid in the park for 2 hours because I knew I was in trouble. But, we became the best of freinds after that. (a couple of years after)

My ex boyfreind, a Taurus - caught his buddy petting my leg at a party one time. We were both sitting on the couch and talking about, guess what? Astrology, and he was drunk and decided to start groping my leg. Which I wasn't sure how to cope with...anyway, my Taurus boyfried spotted this instantly, and flew into a rage. He wouldn't listen to a word I said in my defence. He had my car keys and was going to take my car and leave me there. I stopped him at the bottom of the walkway stairs and begged him to reconsider, to no avail...so, I clobbered him over the bridge of the nose with a full bottle of beer. It worked. He didn't take my car. He had to go back into the house & get his profusely bleeding nose tended to.

My ex-roomate for 5 years....- she ended up with a dark purple eye & cheek...too long of a story, but ya get the idea. I honestly have no other violent incidents in my history, other than these ones. Only with the bulls.

My teenage Taurus daughter - she's living with her dad right now. We were never violent, my daughter & I, but it could happen if we weren't carefull.

Weird. Maybe it's the combination of fixed earth. Super dooper stubborn and uncompromising. They don't hear a word you say. You have to get their attention somehow.

Mind you, Taurus completes a fixed cross for me, with Mars in Leo, Moon in Aqua, Neptune in Scorpio...all I'm missing is Taurus to make a grand fixed cross.

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sthenri
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posted March 10, 2006 10:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sthenri     Edit/Delete Message
Taurus people can be very irritable if they are not pampered once in a while, and Aquas can be very annoying..I have a little brother who is one..and expressing anger is healthy sometimes, it's necessary to let off steam,

Try adjusting your smile, I find when I smile naturally, my tension drops off, it's funny but it works.

Natasha
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cappyme
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posted March 12, 2006 10:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cappyme     Edit/Delete Message
Wow Nihlive, I have the same fear.

For me normally, I bottle up my anger, I hold up peace till it blows. But when I get angry, it gets really bad. I don't think rationally, get all barbaric, and I explode on an innocent person for some minor offense, which is totally uncalled for. Also I've this tendency to hold in every small minor 'offense' and then when it gets too much (as they say small problems build into big problems) or when some small offense sparks it, I explode out all my past anger, so the person thinks I'm crazy or have some anger issue. Its bad for me, normally cause when I get angry, there is a loss of control (all the Capricorn), it freaks out my emotions (my sensitive Pisces moon) and so its like whenever I explode, the situation becomes worser, not better, and peace, ha! There's no peace in the end.

For me, the best way to just get over anger or whatever is to be near nature (taurus = earth). Just listen to nature sounds, enjoy the wind etc. or just listen to some really good music. That calms me down and plus I'm starting to excercise the good qualities of Taurus, thats patience. Anyways I find that Mars in Capricorn are very good at tuning out the bad stuff from thier life. So if your friends not good or whatever, use your taurus and capricorn qualities, be simple (taurus), calm (taurus), clear (capricorn) and in control of your anger (capricorn) and tell him to go away and simply tune him out (as don't talk much to him, don't keep in touch with him etc. etc.). You can do it! and anyways Mars is exalted in Cap, so use those qualities to help you. He'll get the message, hopefully!

Hope my advise helps . I'm just a kid lol, so I wouldn't know much

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LibraSparkle
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posted March 12, 2006 09:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LibraSparkle     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Nihilive,

I think the fact that you are aware that it could be an issue speaks volumes. It sounds to me like you know how to manage your anger with self-talk. Having angry thoughts and acting upon them are two very different issues.

It's a good thing to keep in mind that anger is a secondary emotion. Simply being angry is never the end of it. You are angry because _____________ (you're embarrassed, you're frustrated, you feel betrayed, etc.).

You have the ability to stop yourself from acting out of anger. Keep using it! Figure out exactly why you are angry using self talk. Sometimes it may not seem so obvious, and it is a distraction from the *feeling* side that is feeling anger. The *thinking* side will take over, and it knows how wrong it is to react to anger.

It is always better to respond than to react.

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Nihilive
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posted March 13, 2006 12:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nihilive     Edit/Delete Message
I definitely have to agree with the patience aspect of being a taurus. I can put up with so much before it becomes an issue, but that doesn't mean that my dealing with it doesn't irk me. Yes, this friend has been sort of disassociated quite a bit lately and I'd like to cut him off more. Just have to find a way to do so.

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pidaua
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posted March 13, 2006 12:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message
Wow Lioneye... I guess the Bulls just know how to get under your skin. I can see that though- Mr. Leo is a Bull refugee as well (his ex wife is a Taurus and he can't stand to even talk about her LOL).

I don't know that there is a sign that really pushes me to anger- Cancer completes my T-square and greats a Grand Cross in my chart.

I DO find that people with dominant Cancer (or Gemini) in their charts can push me to anger. There have only been a few people I have really exploded on had significant Cancer (my mother- who has actually pushed me to the point where I have slammed on the breaks of my car and thrown her out) and the Ex Taurus (But that took until almost the end of the relationship when I finally told him to shut the "blank" and stop thinking about himself for ONE freaking minute...etc... (He has Venus in Cancer conjuncting his Saturn in Cancer).

Then there was the Cancer Sun / Cancer rising / Mars in Cancer guy that last about 2 dates. He made me so angry with his constant nagging and pity-parties that I called him by my ex's name to which he said " I can believe you called me X when I know how much you hate him" I said "Then quite acting like him you idiot".

The only person I can't really get away from is my mother. We're friends, but she does have the ability to push ALL of my buttons at the same time and cause me to just pop off

I am not one to "hit" though. It's been rare that I do that - and I am not sure why. My problem is my tongue (and maybe that is a Pluto conjunct ascendant thing) but when I get super-angry I will lash into a person until I make them crumble. It's like all this information just comes to me and I use it against them.

I try never to do that and instead walk away.

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lioneye68
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posted March 17, 2006 08:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lioneye68     Edit/Delete Message
Well, truth be told, having a Taurus child has forced me to *contain* myself when I feel that kind of rage welling up inside of me. It gives me a headache, though. Then I just feel like I need a drink or something lol...

Nihilive, I think that your rage is coming from maybe a mars square pluto in your natal chart, possibly? Mars in the 1st, opposing moon, maybe? Or, some aspect like that... Unless it tends to be the same sign that sets you off. Then, you have to look at what role that sign plays in your chart.

My Leo mars opposes my Aqua moon, in the early degrees, so poor Taurus (if in the early degrees) may serve as a release for that tension for me.

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Nihilive
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posted March 17, 2006 08:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nihilive     Edit/Delete Message
Aquarius and Aries are the two main signs that set me off. The feeling of enmity toward aquarius is very strong with me, as I have a great hatred for many aquarians that I have no healthy way of dealing with.

I do not know.

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Nihilive
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posted March 17, 2006 08:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nihilive     Edit/Delete Message
Not to mention I look at people with infidelity issues as being subhuman, selfish, and unworthy of breathing. It is as if they are the ultimate low in my eyes.

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Mystic Gemini
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posted March 19, 2006 09:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mystic Gemini     Edit/Delete Message
God I need to learn how to control my taurean rage a bit.


My cousin is on the aries/taurus cusp. April 20th, like Hitler.


You should see her hold grudges.


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-I took a walk around the world to ease my troubled mind. I left my body lying somewhere in the sands of time. But I watched the world float to the dark side of the moon. I feel there's nothing I can do.

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pidaua
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posted March 20, 2006 11:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message
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pidaua
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posted March 20, 2006 11:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message
Nih - Then you would have completely hated my Ex-fiance the Taurus. He had an issue with telling the truth and couldn't keep his "unit" in his pants to save his life.

I once found a hotel receipt from a day that he told me he had to drive up to Tucson to visit a friend in the hospital. It was also my first day on my bioterrorism job- which was very important to me. My success always caused him to get a bit goofy. Anyway, he came home that night and told me his big whopper of a story - yet he smelled like hotel soap. I asked him about it and he said "What, do you actually think I went up to Tucson to met with a lover and spend the day in a hotel?"

Later I found the receipt. Even when he was trying to get back together with me he could not or would not explain why he got the room - only saying he needed it to deal with childhood trauma. Yeah... right!

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pidaua
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posted March 20, 2006 11:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message
*triple freaking post..... Merc Retro!!!

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posted March 24, 2006 10:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 1scorp     Edit/Delete Message

Was out there long enough.
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