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bleakbeauty
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posted April 25, 2006 09:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bleakbeauty     Edit/Delete Message
In the last few months I have lost touch with my fiance. I sense that he has cut me out of his life.

I feel a strong connection to him and this is killing me. Is there anyone who can give me some insight? I'm not cluey about what aspects to look at in our charts...

Thanks in advance.

He is Leo, Moon in Aries, Ascendant in Capricorn.

I am Gemini with Moon in Virgo and Ascendant in Capricorn too.

His aspects are Sun Conjunction Venus 3°24 Sun Conjunction Jupiter 0°10 Sun Square Uranus 2°46 Sun Trine Neptune 2°01 Sun Sextile Pluto 2°48 Moon Square Mercury 4°18 Moon Sextile Mars 3°56 Moon Trine Ascendant 6°52 Mercury Quincunx Ascendant 2°34 Venus Conjunction Jupiter 3°34 Venus Square Uranus 0°38 Venus Trine Neptune 1°23 Venus Sextile Pluto 0°36 Mars Opposition Ascendant 2°56 Jupiter Square Uranus 2°56 Jupiter Trine Neptune 2°11 Jupiter Sextile Pluto 2°57 Saturn Sextile Uranus 3°18 Saturn Square Neptune 4°03 Neptune Sextile Pluto 0°46

And mine are Sun Conjunction Mercury 2°06 Sun Trine Mars 7°01 Sun Trine Saturn 6°07 Sun Opposition Uranus 7°20 Moon Quincunx Venus 1°29 Moon Conjunction Mars 3°28 Moon Sextile Uranus 3°09 Moon Square Neptune 3°04 Moon Trine Ascendant 0°19 Mercury Trine Saturn 4°01 Venus Quincunx Mars 1°59 Venus Opposition Jupiter 0°53 Venus Quincunx Uranus 1°40 Venus Trine Neptune 4°32 Venus Square Ascendant 1°09 Mars Sextile Uranus 0°19 Mars Trine Ascendant 3°09 Jupiter Sextile Neptune 5°25 Jupiter Square Ascendant 2°03 Uranus Sextile Ascendant 2°50 Neptune Sextile Pluto 1°41 Pluto Square Ascendant 5°04

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shop22much
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posted April 26, 2006 03:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for shop22much     Edit/Delete Message
it'd be easier to check it out with dates, and possibly a chart...

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sue g
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posted April 26, 2006 05:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sue g     Edit/Delete Message
Blackbeauty....

Oh Bless you.

I cant help you with the astro thing, but I just wanted to say your post moved me very much, I saw your pics in the photo place and you are beautiful.....and so is your little girl.

I have been hurt in love many times (been married three times), and I know how terrible this feels....

So I am sending you a BIG ((((((((((HUG))))))))))

Love

Sue xxx

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bleakbeauty
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posted April 26, 2006 06:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bleakbeauty     Edit/Delete Message
Ok..my dates are 31st May 1982 8.30pm in Sydney Australia.

His is 13th August 1979 at 6.50am in Sydney too

Thanks.


Sue, (BIG HUG) back. Thankyou

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bleakbeauty
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posted May 08, 2006 09:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bleakbeauty     Edit/Delete Message

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shop22much
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posted May 08, 2006 10:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for shop22much     Edit/Delete Message

BLEAKBEAUTY's Mars square HIM's Mars:

This is one of the red flags to watch out for in comparing charts. Your energies tend to conflict,
particularly if either of you attempts to correct the other's actions. This is a passionate aspect,
which is wonderful in certain arenas, but can also lead to passionate arguments. You can only be at
ease with each other to the degree that you can accept the differences in how you both go about
doing things. Otherwise, there tends to be conflict over everything. Learning to avoid expressing
yourself to each other when your solar plexus is tight would help immensely. When your solar
plexus is tight, your partner hears whatever you are saying as a punch. Harness the power, and
great things can be accomplished with your combined energy; otherwise, petty arguments and
disagreements rule the day.

BLEAKBEAUTY's Sun trine HIM's Pluto:

The relationship feels safe, as feelings of threat drop away when you are together. You are there
for each other when destiny calls to lend strength. You help each other stay on track with your
higher purpose in life.

HIM's Sun trine BLEAKBEAUTY's Neptune:

There is a natural intuitive flow between the two of you that is quite comfortable. You can be
drawn to understand the subtle realms together through meditation and spiritual practices. You
empower each other's faith in listening to the "still quiet voice within."

HIM's Sun sextile BLEAKBEAUTY's Saturn:

You have patience with each other and can work well together either professionally or when
sharing life's responsibilities. You can even be patient with each other's "bad" days. You learn from
your experiences together and typically don't make the same mistakes twice with each other.

BLEAKBEAUTY's Sun opposition HIM's Neptune:

It is not likely that you see each other clearly. Neptune is the blind spot, and when challenging the
Sun, you can lead each other into illusions. HIM sees qualities that may, or may not, be in
BLEAKBEAUTY. BLEAKBEAUTY can look at HIM as being totally ungrounded in reality.

BLEAKBEAUTY's Sun square HIM's Saturn:

BLEAKBEAUTY feels the hammer of HIM's disapproval always close at hand. HIM gets irritated
with BLEAKBEAUTY's lack of responsibility. Projections abound between the two of you, and
the wise person sees the very qualities you dislike in each other as projections of unclaimed parts
of your own character. It takes character strength to deal successfully with this one; otherwise
BLEAKBEAUTY can feel disapproved of and HIM feels unappreciated.

BLEAKBEAUTY's Sun square HIM's North Node:

The relationship goes through periods where growth seems to be stalled and you pull each other
into past patterns. Are you going to support each other's growth, or hold each other to the past?

HIM's Sun square BLEAKBEAUTY's Chiron:

Your natural instincts for helping each other through wounding times can be off target. Try not to
judge each other's wounds and, instead, see what you can do to offer support, even if your ways
of dealing with wounds are radically different.

HIM's Moon conjunct BLEAKBEAUTY's Venus:

This aspect could be characterized as "sweet." It is easy to trust one another and romance is likely.
Simply spending time together is emotionally rewarding and even delightful. The personal side of
life is favored.

HIM's Moon trine BLEAKBEAUTY's Neptune:

An empathic rapport between the two of you is likely. BLEAKBEAUTY helps HIM rise above
petty issues, and HIM helps BLEAKBEAUTY stay in touch with personal feelings.

HIM's Moon opposition BLEAKBEAUTY's Jupiter:

You tend to encourage each other's indulgent behavior. There can be excessive emotional
reactions over small issues that get blown way out of proportion.

HIM's Moon opposition BLEAKBEAUTY's Saturn:

This tie is usually considered unfavorable for emotional relationships, unless BLEAKBEAUTY is
mindful of the excessive sensitivity HIM has to any disapproval. HIM's needs are judged as weak
by BLEAKBEAUTY and tend to go unmet.

HIM's Moon opposition BLEAKBEAUTY's Pluto:

HIM can feel threatened, unsafe, and powerless to withstand BLEAKBEAUTY's will. A healthy
relationship can develop only if BLEAKBEAUTY can remain conscious of the potential misuse of
this power of intimidation. Otherwise, the potential for unhealthy psychological patterns to develop
between the two of you is strong.

BLEAKBEAUTY's Moon square HIM's Mars:

This aspect often leads to a stormy emotional tie. BLEAKBEAUTY is always on edge and feels
threatened by HIM's energy. BLEAKBEAUTY's emotional responses irritate HIM. Without
restraint, this can be a wounding combination.

HIM's Moon square BLEAKBEAUTY's Ascendant:

Misunderstandings often arise when HIM's emotional needs are expressed in a way that irritates
BLEAKBEAUTY. Your relationship benefits from spending a little time apart in the daily schedule
to avoid getting on each other's nerves.

BLEAKBEAUTY's Mercury trine HIM's Pluto:

This tie is favorable for pursuing mental activities together, and you feel safe with each other in
taking conversations to a deep, intimate level. You likely feel comfortable revealing personal
secrets to each other.

HIM's Mercury trine BLEAKBEAUTY's Uranus:

You two are excellent at looking at issues from a fresh perspective and coming up with innovative
ideas for dealing with situations. Your communications stay lively as you encourage a "discovery"
attitude in each other. The ideas that you come up with together most often have relevance and
application in your lives.

HIM's Mercury sextile BLEAKBEAUTY's Mars:

This tie is favorable for motivating you both to act on ideas. You rarely trigger each other's
defenses in communications, and can even work through difficult moments together without feeling
threatened by each other.

BLEAKBEAUTY's Mercury opposition HIM's Neptune:

Your communication with each other can become clouded by confusion, mostly over what was not
said. Fact and fantasy blur. It may not be clear what was said and not said, what is true or not true;
these types of issues cause the confusion. Absolute honesty is required to avoid these pitfalls.

HIM's Mercury opposition BLEAKBEAUTY's Ascendant:

Misunderstandings are not uncommon with this aspect, as you both tend to misinterpret each
other's attempts at communication. Avoid this potential for misunderstanding by double-checking
important communications with each other.

BLEAKBEAUTY's Mercury square HIM's Saturn:

This aspect creates a challenge in maintaining easy, flowing communication with each other,
because BLEAKBEAUTY feels intimidated by HIM's judgments. This fear of disapproval restricts
the natural flow of conversation. There is a tendency to bring out each other's pessimistic and
negative attitudes. This can be compensated for, but there would have to be a rule: No criticizing
each other. Otherwise, this combination is a tough one.

HIM's Mercury square BLEAKBEAUTY's Venus:

HIM communicates in a way that offends BLEAKBEAUTY's sensibilities. HIM feels
BLEAKBEAUTY is pretentious. BLEAKBEAUTY gets hurt feelings over the way HIM
communicates. You would be advised to educate each other as to these sensitivities to avoid them
in the future.

HIM's Mercury square BLEAKBEAUTY's Jupiter:

Your learning styles are different enough that it makes it difficult to carry out intellectual projects
together without getting exasperated with each other. BLEAKBEAUTY is interested in growth that
doesn't interest HIM. HIM can seem narrow-minded and picky to BLEAKBEAUTY. Give space
for your different learning styles and interests to avoid conflict.

BLEAKBEAUTY's Mercury square HIM's North Node:

This push-pull combination impacts the communication patterns in the relationship. You periodically
support each other's growth, and periodically pull each other back to things that were said in the
past. Extra effort is required to learn from your challenges and move on; otherwise, haunting issues
from the past can pull the relationship down.

BLEAKBEAUTY's Venus sextile HIM's Mars:

There is very favorable magnetic flow between the two of you that could best be described as
delightful. This creates an energetic spark that is well received by both of you. You are skilled at
keeping this spark of magnetism alive long into your relationship.

HIM's Venus sextile BLEAKBEAUTY's Saturn:

This aspect adds stability to your relationship because you have the patience and commitment it
takes to work through the rough spots. You complement each other's lives, as HIM brings out
BLEAKBEAUTY's personal side, and BLEAKBEAUTY helps HIM keeps it together in the
world.

HIM's Mars trine BLEAKBEAUTY's Jupiter:

You bring out a confident and positive attitude in each other, allowing you to work and play well
together. You also travel well together and encourage each other to take part in the opportunities
life has to offer.

HIM's Mars opposition BLEAKBEAUTY's Neptune:

This is a difficult aspect because of its insidious qualities. The source of problems and conflicts
between the two of you is never obvious. As lovers, you can bring out a fascination for eroticism in
each other, but you are not each other's best counsel in making important decisions, as this aspect
brings out the worst of the blind spot phenomenon of Neptune aspects. Deception on one or both
of your parts is also a possible negative manifestation of this energy.

HIM's Jupiter trine BLEAKBEAUTY's Neptune:

Mysticism and philosophical exchanges are favored with this combination, and your discussions
help you both rise above the petty issues in life to gain a more inspired view.

HIM's Jupiter square BLEAKBEAUTY's Chiron:

Your beliefs and philosophical views clash with each other concerning health and healing issues.
Although not with malicious indent, HIM can encourage directions that hinder, rather than help,
BLEAKBEAUTY's healing process.

BLEAKBEAUTY's Saturn conjunct HIM's Pluto:

You two have considerable influence and power when you work together. Business and politics
would be natural arenas to express the huge power that comes from this combination, and artistic
and spiritual types with this aspect would need a huge project to pour this energy into as well. The
low road is when the shadow side of power takes over the relationship, leading to blind ambition,
corruption, and power conflicts.

BLEAKBEAUTY's Saturn sextile HIM's Neptune:

This aspect allows the two of you to handle worldly responsibilities with a sense of grace.
BLEAKBEAUTY helps bring form and structure to HIM's vision, and HIM inspires
BLEAKBEAUTY to bring vision into BLEAKBEAUTY's career. You can work well together in
creative and spiritual pursuits with this combination.

HIM's Saturn sextile BLEAKBEAUTY's North Node:

You respect each other's path of soul growth and can help each other stay disciplined on the path.
You are able to be patient with each other and help each other get back on track when necessary.

HIM's Uranus trine BLEAKBEAUTY's North Node:

This aspect is favorable for keeping each other excited about a path of evolving and discovering
life. You come away from discussions feeling excited about the fresh insights you give each other.

HIM's Uranus opposition BLEAKBEAUTY's Chiron:

Here, we have two rebels with two different causes. An example would be two people who both
rebelled against traditional health care and found their own, but different, alternative paths. Until
you can honor these differences, the tendency to look at each other's path as eccentric at best, and
as having little merit, will certainly be felt as challenging.

BLEAKBEAUTY's Neptune trine HIM's Ascendant:

This is a favorable aspect that allows BLEAKBEAUTY to help HIM rise above petty issues, and
HIM to help BLEAKBEAUTY follow spiritual and creative vision. Involvements in the arts and
spiritual activity together are highly favored.

BLEAKBEAUTY's Pluto sextile HIM's Ascendant:

You support the deepest type of spiritual transformation in each other and can be a source of
hidden strength for each other.

HIM's Pluto square BLEAKBEAUTY's North Node:

A karmic pattern of mistrust must be faced to avoid the undermining influence of this aspect. If
issues of mistrust exist, put them on the table and clear the issues before proceeding. Overcome the
tendency to let these issues putrefy beneath the surface, which can breed all types of ill feelings.

HIM's Ascendant square BLEAKBEAUTY's Chiron:

You have difficulty understanding each other's wounds and sensitivities, and thus tend to judge
each other as being indulgent and weak, where instead you could offer support and acceptance.

BLEAKBEAUTY's North Node sextile HIM's Chiron:

You can out bring out the best in each other because you support life paths that are healing and
growth-oriented for both of you.

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Happy Dragon
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posted May 08, 2006 07:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Happy Dragon     Edit/Delete Message
Bleakbeauty
**In the last few months I have lost touch with my fiance. I sense that he has cut me out of his life.**
just for clarification .. you mean he has totaly disappeared ?? .. .. or your having trouble emotionaly connecting ?? .. or he hasn't communicated anything recently ??

he .. has had a Saturn transit .. by conjunction .. to his natal Mercury in 12th house .. .. actualy for a while now ... months at an outside quess .. being able expressing himself / communicate may be difficult at moment .. for whatever reason ..

Jupiter/Saturn/Uranus/Neptune are all aspecting natal placements (his chart) .. plus transiting Lillith is opposing his Vertex placement .. (whatever that might interpret into)

looks as if his Sun/Venus/Jupiter are nataly conjunct in his 12th .. all at a square aspect to his Uranus placement .. in 3rd house ..

Lillith is at moment squaring your natal Mecury .. (her transits last about 3 weeks i think) but should pass fairly qik .. as she is nearly 'exact' .. but just about to pass that point .. and the transit 'effects' seems to fall of rapidly once the planet has passed exact .. .. and Lil doesn't go retrograde ( she also squares your Vertex at moment)

I did see your post before .. and both of you have had some / are having .. fairly difficult astro transits from the outer planets .. best i can do is post "graphics" of your charts (within 24 or 48hrs) and see what feedback may occur .. just that there be a fair number of transits .. both just passed .. and on-going ones .. .. seems as Saturn be transiting your 7th house at moment .. and .. his 12th house .. neither would be easy on a relationship i would imagine ..

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bleakbeauty
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posted May 09, 2006 07:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bleakbeauty     Edit/Delete Message
Thankyou shop2much and Happy Dragon.

He has left, we're not together anymore. He hasn't told me this. He just lost a job where he was living (we live in different states as we have a long distance relationship) and moved to another state. His stepfather gave me this info. He said he wanted to disappear off the face of the earth and I guess this included ditching me! Someone he said he would never leave or lose contact with.

It has been 3 months and every day of that I have had to go through the pain of losing him and the bond we had.

I'm in a lot of pain and I was hoping he'd come back, but now all the anger I have overrides that!

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Happy Dragon
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posted May 09, 2006 04:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Happy Dragon     Edit/Delete Message
Bleakbeauty ..
.. having to paste these charts .. and return later ..
(have noted you said 3months .. will check what's been 'transiting')
.. some very basic 'how to' info here ..
* http://www.happydragon.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk *

13th August 1979 chart with transiting planets on outside ring .. (9th May 2006)

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Happy Dragon
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posted May 09, 2006 04:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Happy Dragon     Edit/Delete Message
31st May 1982 chart with transiting planets on outside ring .. (9th May 2006)

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shall leave this here as well ..

( from prev. post) : ... regarding Transits .. as in short explanation ..

.. the planets .. as they move arround the zodiac circle, make 'aspects' to the planetary positions set at the time of birth (i.e. the birth chart ) .. .. .. 'aspects' .. are the geometric angles separating the planets around the zodiac .. so transiting aspects are just like the ones found within the chart ( conjunctions, squares, oppositions, trines, sextiles .. etc ) and as the transiting planet moves .. so does the angle change to any given natal planet or placement .. or in other words the transit aspect 'builds up' .. then 'eases off' .. over time ..

transits of mars , mercury, venus are relatively short .. a few days .. extended if the planet in question goes retrograde .. those are sometimes known as the 'Personal' planets .. or 'Inner planets'

the transits of the 'outer' planets be somewhat different .. Jupiter, Saturn, Neptune, Uranus and Pluto move relatively slow .. Jupiter has a 12 yr cycle (cycle .. as in once around the zodiac circle ) .. Saturn 28 .yrs .. Uranus 84.yrs .. Neptune 165. yrs .. and lilltle ol' Pluto .. 248.yrs .. .. .. .. it be the Outer planets .. in particular when they aspect a Personal placement/planet .. that seem to give folk the hardest or best of times ( in terms of astrological transits and ppl reactions to same )

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bleakbeauty
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posted May 10, 2006 01:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bleakbeauty     Edit/Delete Message
HD, you are a gem

Thankyou for taking the time to try and help me with this one. I think a lot of the astrology jargon goes over the top of my head at times. I hate to admit that I'm one of those people who is more interested in what astrology can tell me than learning how it all works.

I'm not interested in his chart anymore, because I'm moving on and trying not to focus on him as an aspect of my life.

I've studied my birth chart many times but all I've really done is looked up the aspects and houses meanings on a few websites. They're not always accurate descriptions of me.

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Happy Dragon
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posted May 10, 2006 03:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Happy Dragon     Edit/Delete Message
b'beauty ..

I note what you wrote .. yeah .. i could understand non-interest in his chart from your position .. i guess one thing is ... if you can understand them it will teach you some astrology .. fore-warned is fore-armed ..

i'm behind a number of 'replys' to posts .. am aware that when i get back to the thread .. there is a possibilty that the 'relationship' has undergone a change .. or the 'poster' be feeling different about whatever ... anyhow .. i'm sorting out some transit interpretations .. once finished i shall explain how to utilise them in a simple way for yourself ..
.. one thing that does stand out in mr.leo's chart .. are the planets all grouped together in that sign .. so a ton of Leo influence there .. and in the 12th house .. and at a square aspect to Uranus .. meaning that 'freedom and independance' would be important to him (amongnst other potentials) .. it's just that you mentioned 'fiance' ..

'later ..

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posted May 10, 2006 08:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MysticMelody     Edit/Delete Message
Beauty, just want to give you a few quick helpful ideas. Anger does work, I know it's not your best self, but physiologically people can only experience anger or emotional pain, not both at once, so if the pain gets too bad, get mad. Next, start a home project. Re-decorate, paint, just move the furniture around if that is all you can do. Go to Home and Garden TV's Website for ideas. Changing your surroundings will stop some of the psychological pain triggers, changing things around will mix up the Chi, project will take your mind off of it and inspire your life in other ways giving you the energy to remember to meditate and pray...
Helpful book with some spiritual/mystical undertones for break-ups: Rebuilding After Your Relationship Ends
Stay strong and take care. Keep visiting LindaLand, you've come to the right place.

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