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Topic: Skilled Astrologers, Need Your Opinion of This Composite Chart
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paras Knowflake Posts: 1558 From: the Heart of It All Registered: May 2004
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posted May 11, 2006 12:55 AM
Have you ever seen a better blend of two charts? Is this the chart of two Twin Selves, or am I deluded? Or perhaps not skilled enough to know the difference? This chart absolutely freaked me out when I first calc'ed it... look at the North Node sitting squarely on the Ascendant! What does that mean?? So many conjunctions... 11 sextiles out of 21 major aspects, just over half, denoting positive energy flow but without the trap of laziness due to too much ease that trines would cause... 7 conjunctions... gah! Aspects: Sun Conjunct Mars Sun Conjunct Pluto Sun Conjunct Midheaven Sun Sextile Neptune Moon Conjunct Jupiter Moon Sextile Uranus Moon Square Neptune Mercury Square North Node Mercury Square Ascendant Venus Sextile North Node Venus Sextile Ascendant Mars Conjunct Pluto Mars Sextile Neptune Jupiter Conjunct Saturn Jupiter Sextile Uranus Jupiter Sextile North Node Jupiter Sextile Ascendant Saturn Sextile North Node Saturn Sextile Ascendant Neptune Sextile Pluto Pluto Conjunct Midheaven
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Anita41 Knowflake Posts: 67 From: Registered: Mar 2005
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posted May 11, 2006 08:45 AM
Hey paras.You are asking if that is the chart of two twin selves, and since I have some experience with that I thought Id just say my opinion on that... Ofcourse it -could- be, but when it comes to twin selves, there is nothing at all astrologically that can "prove" if it is or not. Usually I see twin selves have aspects like sun conjunct moon and moon conjunct venus and connections to the nodes, like sun conjunct north node or moon conjunct south node. And also sun conjunct pluto like you have here. This composite chart has many good aspects, but I dont think it is that "extraordinary" or "unusual" in a relationship to another person. If you wonder if someone is your twin self, then only you can know that, and there will be no doubt. Im thinking about my own twin self, our chart isnt that good, and neither is our reality, but it can never ever take away or influence an extraordinary strong strong bond of love between us. Good luck IP: Logged |
paras Knowflake Posts: 1558 From: the Heart of It All Registered: May 2004
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posted May 11, 2006 10:32 AM
Anita41,Thanks for sharing your opinion! I'd just like to say, not only in response to you, but for the benefit of anyone else who may respond to this, that I'm certainly aware such a determination can't be made on the basis of astrological comparison alone -- HOWEVER, I was struck by Linda's saying in Gooberz that her chart and that of her Twin S-elf fit tightly together, like pieces of a jigsaw puzzle. That's kind of how this chart struck me. And yes, of course, only the people involved can knOw... but, being an indecisive Libra, and a natural skeptic to boot, It's often difficult for me to feel I know anything with certainty! And still, shouldn't there be some astrological indications? At least those that denote a higher-than-average chance? I'd also like to know, Anita41, if you have read Linda Goodman's books, particularly Gooberz. If not, you may not know quite what I mean by the term "Twin Selves". It's not a general term like "soulmates"; it refers to the other half of your completed Higher S-elf. Hrm, well, it's a bit disappointing to hear you say that there's nothing extraordinary or unusual about it, but then again I haven't calc'ed that many composite charts, so it's not too difficult for me to believe, either! I still want to know what the North Node is doing on the Ascendant... strange to me that the calculation program would visually place it there, yet not list North Node Conjunct Ascendant as one of the aspects. It's not the best program in the world, though it seems accurate enough. Waiting to hear more, and from others, Paras IP: Logged |
Selena Knowflake Posts: 122 From: Registered: Mar 2006
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posted May 11, 2006 01:12 PM
Hello Paras, Well, I seem to have similar chart with my big love, 6 conjunctions, including Anita's twin-soul indicators Sun-Moon, Moon-Venus, Sun-Pluto and Venus-Pluto. Pluto is also conjunct the Ascendant, and Mars is trining 5 of these conjuncted planets. So loads of conjunctions and trines. Some conjunctions are 1 degree apart(Sun-Venus). There is only one square, and it is Mars-Saturn, and it is very wide (9 degrees). So, it may not be that charts like these are very rare, since we both have them with our loves, however, this is my most intense, most profound relationship to date. So such tight charts, with most planets in conjunction and trine (only few squares) may indicate extremely strong bonds. Our synastry chart is also v. intense. Sorry, I have no idea how to put the chart up here, I tried, didn't work. But I do agree with Anita, regardless of the charts, when it is your twin-soul, you just know, without any doubt. It is so overwhelming, so primal and profound, it leaves you breathless. I think Mamma Mia had couple of posts where she describes these experiences very well (telephatic connection and such...). Looking forward to hearing from others. IP: Logged |
Mama Mia Knowflake Posts: 939 From: Registered: Jun 2005
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posted May 11, 2006 01:38 PM
Hey there ppl...Yep I described those feelings and I have them deeply with a certain guy. We have Sun conjunct moon, Moon conjunct Venus, We have Pluto trine venus though. We have alot of sextiles in our charts. Yes when you meet your twin you just know. At first I was not aware of things but after awhile you begin to see the stragenss and the intense feelings and you jut know this is not anything that you have ever had. Hi Selena I too have read your post about twin stuff and seems you know just what I know... Sun Conjunct Moon With Sun conjunct Moon in the composite chart, the two of you will have a single- mindedness of purpose that is usually lacking in other relationships. This aspect is especially good in the chart of a love relationship. It indicates that you are truly complementary partners. Your relationship has the potential for bringing something new into the world. This position indicates that you are somehow more complete as a partnership than as individuals. Sun Conjunct Venus
The conjunction of Sun and Venus in the composite chart is one of the strongest indications of a love relationship between two people, even in a friendship. It does not primarily indicate a sexual relationship; instead it signifies love, pure and simple. The attraction indicated by this aspect is so powerful that it can bring together people who are incompatible by ordinary criteria. If the relationship is laden with conflicts, even a strong feeling of love between you may turn to hatred. In most cases, however, this will be a very fine personal relationship. Moon Conjunct Venus The conjunction of composite Moon and composite Venus is a most positive aspect for any personal relationship. It indicates a strong feeling of love between you that you will express openly. The relationship may even have something of a dreamy quality, as if it were too beautiful to be true. The basic inner strength of this relationship should be great enough to overcome all but the worst problems. In general, this is one of the most positive and useful aspects that a composite chart can have for a successful personal relationship. Composite Horoscope midpoint method PLANETARY POSITIONS planet sign degree house Sun Pisces 02°18'56 02 Moon Pisces 07°01'40 02 Mercury Aquarius 23°31'20 02 Venus Pisces 07°53'39 02 Mars Aries 20°43'10 04 Jupiter Scorpio 01°08'06 10 Saturn Taurus 05°13'16 04 Uranus Libra 08°02'43 09 Neptune Sagittarius 00°50'52 11 Pluto Virgo 26°44'26 09 True Node Pisces 12°19'08 02
Here is just a snipit of my composite chart with the guy...
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thebigeliza Knowflake Posts: 251 From: CT,USA Registered: Nov 2004
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posted May 11, 2006 01:41 PM
My chart with my on again off again boyfriend is very similar in ways.I know we have a very deep purpose together,but have been told we are not quite twin souls.Our composite sun and moon are conjunct in 22 degrees.I am not sure what to believe but it is the most profound,intense relationship I have ever been in.Something also strange,he is born the day after me,but four years before.I am October 15 1985 at 2:50pm,he is October 16 1981 2:00am. I think your chart shows two people who could very well be twin souls.The north node exact like that means something strong.IP: Logged |
pixelpixie Moderator Posts: 3643 From: Ontario Canada Registered: Jun 2005
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posted May 11, 2006 02:41 PM
Contact between the angles and nodes are very fated...In a composite chart, it might deem the same about the relationship, rather than the individuals inhabiting it. IP: Logged |
paras Knowflake Posts: 1558 From: the Heart of It All Registered: May 2004
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posted May 11, 2006 03:03 PM
Interesting replies, inDeeD.Thank you for adding your two cents, bigeliza and Selena. Pixelpixie, you were so terse there, I'm not exactly sure what you're trying to say. Where is Lioneye? I want her input, too... She could certainly tell me the significance of the third house hogging all the planets. General question for anyone: is it considered impolite to complain about attempts to hijack your thread? IP: Logged |
Selena Knowflake Posts: 122 From: Registered: Mar 2006
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posted May 11, 2006 03:52 PM
Hi Paras, You are welcome! I've forgotten to add that I have read somewhere that the concentrated composite chart do seem to indicate more intense relationships than more scattered charts. It is hardly surprising, as the energies are so strongly interconnected . I know that some astrologers disregard signs of composite as not too important. The houses probably show where the energy is felt the most, or in what way. It still means very strong feelings, but if it is in the third house, you may express it with the need to comunicate with one another on all levels. In the sixth house, the need to be of service and helpful to one another, in the fifth perhaps through children etc. This is just how I understand it, but ultimately, I do believe that such strong composites have to be felt very strongly, eg. the relationship is very, very important. And I do understand your beingh uncertain, even in the face of something so strong. It happened to me too, because it was so strong and overwhelming, I tried to rationalize it and dissect it, because I didn't believe that it was happening to me. No good to do that, better just to let yourself feel it to the end and enjoy the ride. Hello Mamma Mia, I enjoyed reading your post earlier on about telepathy with your Aqua (heart beating, feeling him next to you, talking to him on distance) because it happened to me exactly the way you described it, but I just couldn't express it like you. Regards everyone, Selena. IP: Logged |
pixelpixie Moderator Posts: 3643 From: Ontario Canada Registered: Jun 2005
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posted May 11, 2006 04:18 PM
thebigeliza wrote;"I think your chart shows two people who could very well be twin souls.The north node exact like that means something strong." And I agreed that contact between nodes and angles were an important aspect of synastry.. and composite, being the horoscope of the relationship, not the individuals, might have a similar fated meaning. A fated relationship. *Rather than a traditional synastry interpretation Terse? I dunno... just that composite is something I am exploring with trepidation.... surely a strong composite shows a lot.. I am more comfortable with synastry comparisions, so I don't want to say the wrong thing. Just getting a 'feel'...IP: Logged |
Anita41 Knowflake Posts: 67 From: Registered: Mar 2005
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posted May 12, 2006 12:18 PM
Hey paras No I havent read those books, but I do know what a twin self is And you're right, its not a soulmate thing, it goes alot deeper than that and is very very intense. So much that youd prefer to run away rather than being with him, or atleast thats how I felt. Im sorry if you felt dissapointment when I said that your composite chart wasnt that unusual, but all I meant was that even though it looks like a very good chart with many good aspects, it doesnt to me show strong karmic aspects. But in my opinion thats no big deal. Some people who have been married their whole life might have a difficult chart that wouldnt indicate marriage/love at all. Is this your own twin self you found? Whoa, get ready
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Arnicka Knowflake Posts: 360 From: Registered: Jun 2004
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posted May 13, 2006 11:03 PM
Anita41 ~ What would you class as strong karmic aspects?IP: Logged | |