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posted September 13, 2006 05:55 PM         

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This is an old relationship of mine - now I'm not mourning, but I am curious (I'm not an expert at synastry - still learning) but some things seem to be positive - like
his moon conj my sun; our chirons conj; our Neptunes conj; Plutos conj etc.
So for those that know, what are the indications of this relationship not working/lasting?
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Him:
Sun, Merc, Asc, in Pisces (1st House)
Chiron, Venus in Aries in 1st
Mars Taurus in 2nd
Saturn Gemini in 2nd
DC Virgo
Pluto, Uranus, Moon Libra in 7th
Vertex Virgo in 7th
Neptune Sag in 9th
MC Sag
Jupiter Capricorn in 10th
True Node Aquarius 12th

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Me:
Sun, Merc, Asc, in Pisces (1st House)
Chiron, Venus in Aries in 1st
Mars Taurus in 2nd
Saturn Gemini in 2nd
DC Virgo
Pluto, Uranus, Moon Libra in 7th
Vertex Virgo in 7th
Neptune Sag in 9th
MC Sag
Jupiter Capricorn in10th
True Node Aquarius 12th

Any input appreciated or use it to practice maybe

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posted September 14, 2006 12:03 AM         

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Can't see the charts but my ex and I had the same sort of aspects you mentioned.

Really didn't stop me utterly disliking him by the end of our relationship!!!

Now I'm just indifferent and I can't remember why we got together in the first place.

I can see his new relationship headed down exactly the same path its like watching a car crash in slow motion.

At least I learnt some lessons from that relationship, he obviously hasn't. But then again he didn't learn anything from his relationship before me either!

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posted September 14, 2006 03:58 AM         

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Yeah I know what you mean Oz - I felt I learnt some valuable lessons too, not sure he did, he was very self-righteous about the whole thing.
I am curious though, cos sometimes the best way to learn what is right is to look at what is wrong, so if there are so many good connections, why didn't it last, and at the same time how can we rely on synastry if this is the case? - am I making sense

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posted September 14, 2006 05:36 AM         

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Think u made a mistake w your edit!

My ex and I had his sun con my moon, his venus con my pluto and other numerous supposedly good aspects.

I never felt the pull to him that I feel with this new guy though and in the seven years we were together I never felt completely comfortable with him.

I beleive we probably would have been best mates had we not jumped into a relationship. The best bits of our entire time together was when we were just being friends.

There was very little sexual compatability which at the time I didn't think about, I thought it would come with time. It just got worse and more strained though. I thought that was as good as it got til I met the new guy. ;-)

I even get along with his new girlfriend, we complain about the same things and giggle about it. She thinks its cute that he gets jealous and goes through her text messages. I think its psychotic!

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posted September 14, 2006 05:38 AM         

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p.s. I beleive in timing and fate too, it seems in our situations we were there as a learning experience but had we met at other times maybe things would have been different.

Maybe look at the first meeting chart if you can remember when it was?

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posted September 14, 2006 12:27 PM         

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I have been pondering the same question and trying to find "break up" aspects in my synastry with my ex-husband. Well, his Moon conjuncts my Sun, which supposed to be a good thing. His Vertex and Venus conjunct my True Node and my Chiron conjuncts his Venus which points to some karmic lessons, I guess. His Saturn in 8th conjunct my Mars in 2nd seem to be the red flag and I would say financial problems were a major part of our conflict. Wasn't a friendly parting either.

What I found particualrly interesting is our wedding date chart

Doesn't that look like match made in heaven...lol... didn't quite work that way. I think it's pretty rare to see the chart SO MUCH out of balance. Made me feel like, I sure hope no one was born in Philly at this time...lol.

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posted September 14, 2006 01:11 PM         

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From what I've got so far from Tim's astro lessons - I'd say that your relationship appeared to be great to the outside world while things were not so good in private - or that the success of your relationship was connected with how you both related as a couple with your friends/social group - as almost everything is on the right side of your chart which indicates relations to the outer world.

My Saturn was square his Sun & Mercury - so possibly the communication was an issue, I guess that's true because as we got older he didn't seem to get where I was coming from and he just didn't communicate his feelings at all.
Hmmm...

Would still like to know more

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posted September 14, 2006 03:48 PM         

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Cat

You are right on. We did appear to be if not happy than stable couple and everyone was shocked when we got divorced. And, yes, we were definitely connected to a group, his huge Italian family.

Here is a good excerp from CafeAstrology

Let's take an example of Mercury conjunct Saturn in synastry. At the beginning, there can be a real feeling of mutual respect regarding how each person uses his or her brain, how they communicate, and how they think. The Mercury person may, in some ways, look up to the Saturn person, who tends to display a rather mature way of thinking that Mercury admires. Mercury may look to Saturn for advice, and Saturn responds with much enthusiasm, delighting in helping Mercury, and even teaching him or her. As time goes on, inevitably Mercury will excitedly share an experience wherein he or she had an enlightening conversation with a friend - outside of their relationship. Saturn can feel mighty threatened by this simple experience. Saturn does not feel comfortable with that initial bond changing, or what he or she perceives as changing. Why isn't Mercury turning to him or her? Saturn may deal with this fear by putting down the experience, punching holes in the theory that this threatening "other" has presented to Mercury.

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