posted September 21, 2006 02:29 PM            

(and anyone else who would like to comment!)

Something you just posted intigued me....

You said "Plus there is no way he does not think of you as a possibility. Men do not hang out with women just as friends for too long.........." on Mama Mia's Virgo thread.

What do you think of a Taurus man, friend, who proposes "friends with benefits..but friends first and last.."????????

posted September 22, 2006 07:20 AM              

Eventually you have to respond verbally, the old rules exist of course with a Taurus sun so he could be testing your virtue, to put you in the naughty or nice category. Some Taurus men are old fashioned that way in their heads.

I know I do the same verbal sparring sometimes to shock but I am very traditional underneath-my mercury is in Gemini in the 7th house and it's opposite Mars and Ascendant. I learn about my would be partner by talking and provoking and it's part of the physical attraction.

Some Merc in Geminis are cooler and it's just talk, look to his mars and venus, is there fire? If not then yes it's talk.

A clue if a man is really into you is his Venus, what is in detriment there? If Venus is opposite Jupiter, then he likes Jupiter themed women. If Venus is strong then he is attracted to Scorpios.

It never fails.

However as life advice, friends with benefits is a man who is afraid to commit, and he's bad at being loyal as a friend or a lover. Try him as a friend only first and be very strict on the boundaries-if he's a jerk he'll melt away in a few months but why waste your time? Even if you know it's not going to last why not spend time with someone who contributes to you life emotionally or mentally? Lots of attractions flare out to be friends, but not if the man does not have integrity or a strong identity in the first place.

Men who are afraid of commitment emotionally, never get involved in your life, and make lousy friends too.

Did you notice that pattern before? I can describe countless times my attractions flared out but if the person was a fairly emotionally stable and open person (open to new experiences) then the friendship continued and changed.

People who are afraid of any kind of new experience, don't grow up or change or contribute and they usually introduce some sort of limit on the friendship, such as work only, or only with those who make a certain amount of money, or only with those who put out in some way.

It's self centered and when you hang out with self centered people, their low self esteem usually drags you down.

A secure man who is not selfish would be your friend first and never mention using you in a casual fashion without apologizing,

My Venus in Aries and Mars in Sag are emotional here when I say the Taurus you describe sounds like a loser, both in what he brings to you and how others will see him.

I can write a book on the loser type, he always makes you feel sorry for him,
because he always wants
"just a little bit"
of you, as if you were available for his needs whenever.

While you are looking a true friend.
It's as if you settled for a job at the space station when another man can offer you a walk on the moon.

Try reaching, and stretching your possibilities and remember other women who expect more from the men in their lives. Do you know how many women are stuck with a loser who limits them?
How can you expect to be important to a person if you don't pick people who are significant to you?

If he can't lead (step up to the plate and be a real friend), then tell him to get out of the way and let someone else take over.

Judge me but I've met a lot of losers.

Natasha
Taurus/Cancer

posted September 22, 2006 08:21 AM            

Thanks for the replies. Actually, his Venus is in Gemini, conj Jupiter in Gemini. Mars in Virgo, Merc in Aries.

posted September 22, 2006 07:04 PM              

In my life I stay away from confusing males, unless they are somewhat practical people, such as a Gemini who is also a travel agent. Then I can see a friendship. But friendship is based on getting your needs met as well as giving. The one I described ended up standing me up for a movie to chase something new so I gave up on him.

Natasha

posted September 22, 2006 10:37 PM            

Well, actually, bi-polar!

I do not mind confusing males, kind of like the weirdos, guess I had better since that is all I seem to attract (thus my decision to remain single!)

posted September 24, 2006 04:14 PM              

Thanks for your first quote, that explained a lot to me about a similarly themed situation I am currently facing. Miss you, not been on LL an awful lot myself nowadays but it's good to search for the nuggets of wisdom.

LOL

Xena