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starflower
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posted November 28, 2006 04:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starflower     Edit/Delete Message
I need to post a transits GIF from astro.com, to get some help with a relationship that is causing me a lot of heartache. I cant figure how to post it.
Can someone please tell me how? Have tried to copy and paste it but not working.

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jane
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posted November 28, 2006 05:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message
Over on the Astrology board, Shirty posted instructions for posting images within the "Post Your Chart" thread. I'm not sure if this will work for you what you have in mind, but it may.


Quote:
Everyone having trouble with posting images of your charts, please read on..
- Go to astro.com
- Create your chart
- Save it to desktop
- Go to www.photobucket.com
- Create an account
- Upload your chart to the account
- View album
- You will see the image of your chart. Below it will be three boxes: 'Url', 'Tag', and 'Img.'
- Copy the part that says [ IMG]http://img.phot...etc[/IMG]
- Paste that into a new post on LL and submit the post.

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starflower
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posted November 28, 2006 06:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starflower     Edit/Delete Message
THANK YOU SO MUCH!!


Ok, this is not a new relationship. I have no clue why he is behaving how he is, but my heart is breaking. Only a few weeks ago he asked me about moving our relationship forward to something more serious.
Now, he hasnt replied to two text messages I sent, so I called him. He was happy to hear from me, talked with me for about 20 minutes, and promised to call me later that week. I have heard nothing from him, and it has now been 3 weeks.
I cant understand his behaviour, and I know he has never ended any previous relationships in this way. He has always told the other person face to face when it is over.
Any clues from his transits as to where his head is at?

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Azalaksh
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posted November 28, 2006 07:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message
starflower ~

tUranus crossed his nMoon and squared his nSun, making changes (possibly permanent) in his emotional makeup and his ego/self-expression. The tNorth Node will soon cross his nChiron -- I've read that the Node "charges up" or "emotionalizes" whatever point or planet it touches. There are lots of links out there (google a string like "Uranus transits Moon" and see what comes up..... www.cafeastrology.com has good transit interps, as well as www.astrologyweekly.com

Zala

Edit** -- tSaturn quincunxed his nVenus in the house of communication (3rd) and will come back and hit it again twice, it's going retro the first week of December -- that would be another transit to look up interps for.....

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starflower
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posted November 29, 2006 05:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for starflower     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks zala much appreciated.

How can I find out what dates the transits began?
I've accepted that he has decided to remove himself from the relationship for whatever reason, but his behaviour seems to be erratic an it isnt like him to just "disappear" in this way. I've khown him for several years and he has always ended his relationships in the decent way - by letting the other person know.

It seems like he may have his head in the sand too, due to what we talked about.

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pisces_princess
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posted November 29, 2006 05:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pisces_princess     Edit/Delete Message
Just read your reply on my post re:heart broken.

I think there are some very difficult aspects going on through-out most relationships.

Seems to be lots of 'sudden' changes. I know what you are going through and it's very difficult. Stay strong and keep in touch. We can help each other.

Rebecca

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Pisces Sun
Capricorn Moon
Gemini Rising

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sue g
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posted November 29, 2006 05:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sue g     Edit/Delete Message
I agree...

Lots of people are being challeneged in their relationships (me included)...

And yes its very helpful that we have the support of each other here....

I am recommending this for people if they need it, its a gentle way of letting go without fear of losing someone we love...
http://www.healingnetwork.co.uk/cutting_the_ties.htm

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Azalaksh
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posted November 29, 2006 06:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message
star ~
quote:
How can I find out what dates the transits began?
This little list will give you a general idea of where the Outers are:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/006052.html

You can "time-travel" at astro.com by inserting dates for the chart in the Extended Chart Selection.....

Z

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starflower
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posted November 29, 2006 01:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starflower     Edit/Delete Message
I've also added our synastry..to see if any clues are in there...I feel so bad today. This is just the worst thing, if a person wants to end a relationship the least that they can do is tell the other person. I wouldnt mind if by text or email or whatever, but I dont understand why he wont just say the words.

SueG..thank you for that link. I've heard about this process before, but was never sure how to do it correctly.

Z- am checking out those transits in detail right now. Thank you.

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starflower
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posted December 02, 2006 08:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for starflower     Edit/Delete Message
Well he has made contact with me but did not mention meeting. The contact was affectionate and caring in tone..
I dont have a clue what is going on with him...still hurting because as an Aqua I NEED to understand things, and analyse things to death!
Just an update.

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sue g
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posted December 02, 2006 08:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sue g     Edit/Delete Message
Star,

You are welcome.....hope it works...

I have found it invaluable in the past!!

Good luck to you

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Glaucus
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posted December 02, 2006 11:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message

what is the synastry like?

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starflower
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posted December 02, 2006 11:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for starflower     Edit/Delete Message
Glaucus the synastry is pretty good..IMO

His Sun trines my Moon
His Sun squares my Pluto
His Mercury squares my Pluto
His Venus is opposite my Moon
His Venus conjuncts my Sun, Venus, Mars and Saturn
His Mars conjuncts my Mars
His Mars trnies my Pluto
His Saturn trines my Neptune
His Saturn opposes my Pluto
His Uranus trines my Mars
His Neptune squares my Mercury and my Jupiter
His Pluto trines my Mars

I know there are some challenging aspects there,but I also see a lot of very good ones. Or perhaps I am just blinkered??

I havent included houses etc because we dont have his time of birth close enough to be accurate.

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Glaucus
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posted December 02, 2006 12:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message
may I get your birthdata?


not having time of birth is difficult

aspects to the angles are important

hard aspects from Saturn,outerplanets to the ascendant/descendant can indicate personality/relationship problems

hard aspects from Saturn,outerplanets to the Midheaven/IC axis can indicate career/domestic problems


aspects to the Moon are important
you can't have good reliable information about Moon in synastry without a birthtime....especially when they involve outer planets which require smaller orbs...
I use no more than 1 degree with Pluto and 2 degrees with Neptune and Uranus. I use 5 degree orb for everything else.


His Sun trines my Moon
His Sun squares my Pluto
His Mercury squares my Pluto
His Venus is opposite my Moon secrets.
His Venus conjuncts my Sun, Venus, Mars and Saturn
His Mars conjuncts my Mars
His Mars trnies my Pluto
His Saturn trines my Neptune
His Saturn opposes my Pluto
His Uranus trines my Mars
His Neptune squares my Mercury and my Jupiter
His Pluto trines my Mars

His Sun squares your Pluto
His Mercury squares your Pluto
His Saturn opposes your Pluto

It's possible that he forms a t-square with your Pluto

T-squares are very common in problematic relationships

His Neptune square your Mercury can indicate confusion,misunderstandings in communications. There is a possibility of deception and not seeing each other clearly.

Your Saturn conjunct his Venus could feel a bit too heavy,serious for him....like he might feel that you might give him too many responsibilities.

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starflower
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posted December 02, 2006 12:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starflower     Edit/Delete Message

Please let me know as soon as you a note of these so I can edit the post to remove them!
I did post a copy of the synastry earlier on the thread, not sure if you've noticed it.

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Glaucus
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posted December 02, 2006 12:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message
I have it.

I am looking at it now.

He has Moon oppose Uranus, and that indicates unpredictable relationships with women as well as emotional instability.....especially with his Moon being in Pisces.

He has Moon conjunct Saturn,and that indicates that he can be emotionally serious,reserved ...this can indicate very serious relationship with women


He has Moon oppose Pluto,and that indicates intense emotional nature.....this can indicate possible power,trust issues in his relationships with women.


He has Moon square Mercury,and that indicates that his feelings and his emotions are in conflict when it comes to relationships

He has a t-square of Mercury in Sagittarius square the opposition of Moon-Saturn in Pisces,Uranus-Pluto in Virgo
This can indicate significant emotional,communication,power,control,restriction instability issues......because the t-square is mutable.....this can indicate a very restlessness nature........it seems that he can have a lot of problems with communications..especially when it comes to confiding....definitely can be trust issues indicated by the Moon oppose Pluto and Mercury square Pluto.....this can indicate experiences of betrayal.....probably involving women in his life...especially the mother.

A lot of mental,emotional instability indicated.

That t-square can indicate significant problems with women......with moon being part of that t-square.

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posted December 02, 2006 12:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starflower     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks...very kind of you.

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Glaucus
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posted December 02, 2006 12:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message
I say that the relationship issues are mainly his t-square that I explained to you about.

also

Your Mercury quincunx his Uranus-Pluto conjunction and square his Neptune can indicate serious communication issues including unpredictability,suspiciousness,control,confusion.
there can be a lot of misunderstandings,trust issues too...can feel like when you communicate, you're not being on the same wavelength.

also..with his Neptune square your Mercury, the communications can be very illusive......communications can seem so wonderful but they really aren't....there is a lot of fantasy,idealism in challenging Neptune aspects.


Your Pluto squares his Sun with 30 minutes of arc,and that's very significant. This indicates that your intensity,power,transformational nature is conflict with his ego,self expression,vitality......this can indicate possible control,power,trust issues.

He already has a Pluto t-square,and so your Pluto square his Sun could indicate whatever trust,power,control issues that he has could even be aggravated by his relationship with you.


His Mars square your Midheaven/IC axis less than half a degree. This indicates his energy,activity,passion is conflict with your social status,career,domestic nature,and unconscious. It can indicate career and domestic issues in the relationship.


I don't see his Sun trining your Moon. The orb is 9'41. That's too wide..especially for a trine which is soft aspect. I use only 5 degree orb for a trine. Not only that..his Sun in Sagittarius and your Moon in Cancer are not sign placements that are trine by sign. The sign placements are quincunx by sign That's even more case to dismiss the Sun trine Moon.


BTW...You have Venus quincunx Uranus,and that indicates that your relationships involving unpredictabity,detachment,excitement..even too much of all that. Your relationships,love,lovers can suddenly change and adjustments need to be made. That is something to consider.


I don't like to see hard outerplanets involving Sun,Moon,Ascendant,Venus in synastry. Those often indicate significant relationship problems. definitely Sun square Pluto.

Also...men with very challenged Moon can have significant relationship problems with women.

challenging Venus-Uranus natal aspects....well...relationships are unpredictable,up in the air...you never know if they will last nor not

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posted December 02, 2006 01:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message

Here are interpretations of the challenging aspects from Solar Fire

StarFlowerBF's Sun Square StarFlower's Pluto
Orb 0°29' Applying
This combination of planets indicates a relationship that is life changing, whether it be a friendship, love union or work association. Both StarFlowerBF and StarFlower feel a powerful attraction for each other in the initial stages of the relationship. It is as if they are both compelled to relate, perhaps even in response to strong opposition from outside sources. Once the exciting first stages of the union have passed, it is likely that both StarFlowerBF and StarFlower become embroiled in a struggle for dominance. There is no longer an impetus for change and the challenge has become wearisome. Now StarFlowerBF and StarFlower's relationship resembles a battleground in which both try to change the other. It is possible that these battles become emotionally abusive, perhaps even violent. It is important for both StarFlowerBF and StarFlower to avoid senseless battles from which neither emerges triumphant. Money may be at the root of the problems, or it could be that sexual matters are a key theme in this relationship. Either way it is likely that StarFlowerBF feels overwhelmed by this union to the point where he suffers from low self-esteem. There could be a tendency for StarFlower to try to bully StarFlowerBF that may only make matters worse. StarFlowerBF is faced with the challenge of delving deep into his personal resources to find a sense of self-value. StarFlower is a powerful force in this union and needs to learn how to use his power
wisely.

StarFlowerBF's Neptune Square StarFlower's Mercury
Orb 1°38' Applying
This is an inspirational relationship whether it be a romance, friendship or a creative working partnership. Both StarFlower and StarFlowerBF feel excited by this union. Their imaginations are enlivened. However, it is also a difficult combination of the planets Mercury and Neptune. StarFlower and StarFlowerBF need to ensure that they face this relationship honestly. Otherwise they may both be caught in a web of deceit. This could mean viewing each other with rose-coloured glasses, failing to realistically assess the merits of their association. However, it could also be possible that the relationship has an element of deceit or abuse, in particular drug abuse. Both StarFlower and StarFlowerBF could feel disillusioned by their association. It is important that they ensure that the creative, rather than the destructive, elements of their union are emphasised. Perhaps working on an artistic, spiritual or philanthropic project would be beneficial. However, they need to ensure that this project is a positive and appropriate one.


StarFlowerBF's Uranus Quincunx StarFlower's Mercury
Orb 0°33' Applying
A lively and unpredictable relationship is the result of this combination of planets. StarFlower and StarFlowerBF enjoy the meeting of two minds and the sense of freedom that they experience in each other's company. At first they both enjoy the tension that crackles between them, but this soon becomes irritating. The problem is that there is no peace to be experienced in this relationship. The constant tension of two people having different ideas is a challenge. What seemed like a meeting of two minds soon becomes a clashing of two minds. Another obstacle to a close bond is a lack of commitment. As the relationship develops StarFlower and StarFlowerBF realise that it is difficult for them to predict the outcome of their union. In particular StarFlower experiences discomfort because of StarFlowerBF's unreliability. Even if StarFlowerBF is usually a reliable person, he seems unable to be constant in his association with StarFlower. This is a difficult combination for a personal relationship, although it can work depending on other aspects of the relationship. It is difficult to find a balance in a friendship or work association.

StarFlowerBF's Pluto Quincunx StarFlower's Mercury
Orb 0°27' Separating
This is a potentially explosive combination of the planets Mercury and Pluto, with communication playing a key role. The problem is that this combination indicates a battle of two minds. Both StarFlower and StarFlowerBF discover that they trigger forceful emotions and thoughts in each other. At times the intensity becomes overwhelming and they don't know what to do. It is vital that both StarFlower and StarFlowerBF communicate honestly, keeping all emotions and thoughts out in the open as much as is possible. Otherwise their relationship is likely to become volcanic, possibly even abusive as they battle to make themselves understood. They both find it near impossible to simply let matters slide, feeling that they must tackle each other head on. This works well if both StarFlower and StarFlowerBF are able to enjoy penetrating and honest discussions. However, if they don't then one of them, probably StarFlower, is likely to suffer. Positively this relationship is transformative. Negatively it is abusive. The nature of the union depends on StarFlower and StarFlowerBF's personalities and other aspects of their association.

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posted December 02, 2006 01:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starflower     Edit/Delete Message
That's been very helpful, thank you. It gives me the opportunity to understand our issues better.
We've known each other several years. The relationship seems to be destined to be a long one, but not without it's problems. As you've pointed out!
It's given me a lot of insight into his personality, so thank you again.

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posted December 02, 2006 01:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message

You're welcome

I have a Pisces Moon in mutable t-square like him.....so I can relate


Good luck.


Free will is the ultimate factor.

You two can make the relationship last forever if you both want that.

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starflower
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posted December 02, 2006 02:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starflower     Edit/Delete Message
I've only just seen the interpretations from Solar Fire - I'm guessing thats astro software?
You must have been adding them when I was replying
Some of the issues mentioned really do hit home for us two.
There is a strong love and attraction between us, but it is hard work!
Lots here for me to reflect upon

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posted December 02, 2006 02:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message

Yes....I do my astrology work with Solar Fire Astrology software.

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