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Gem-Sag
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posted November 29, 2006 02:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gem-Sag     Edit/Delete Message
Hey
Just wondering if anyone out there has any info on Davison charts,like how to interpret them or if they know of any good sites that have some useful info about them. I would like to know more about this type of chart.
Thanks
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posted November 29, 2006 10:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BornUnderDioscuri     Edit/Delete Message
I would love to know this too actually

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yourfriendinspirit
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posted November 30, 2006 05:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for yourfriendinspirit     Edit/Delete Message
http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/relationshipdavidson26.0.htm
Just came across this recently... Hope this is of some asssistance?

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posted November 30, 2006 09:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BornUnderDioscuri     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you so much

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Gem-Sag
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posted November 30, 2006 03:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gem-Sag     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks yourfriendinspirit,
That was the only website that I could find as well that had any useful information on it.
I'll have to post links to anything else that is good if I happen to stumble upon anything.

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Got Gemini?
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posted August 29, 2007 08:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Got Gemini?     Edit/Delete Message
I have Solar Fire Deluxe and can do one of those davison interprets for you. Mind you, I am just learning the world of astrology so I can't offer up any info other than what is produced by the program.

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Alia
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posted August 29, 2007 10:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Alia     Edit/Delete Message
hi , Got Gemini!
would you run a davison chart for me and the man i want to be with ?
im so new in astrology but i dont like my composite either...

thank you

my dob : 3/27/1967 h 2.50 pm, cagliari italy
his dob : 5/8/1976 h 1.10 am, phoenix AZ usa

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CHART DETAILS

Dude - Natal
Alia - Natal - Relationship - Davison
Oct 22 1971, 11:00 am, GMT +0:00
Midpoint in Space, 36°N23'46'', 051°W29'08''
Geocentric Tropical Zodiac
Placidus Houses, True Node


BACKGROUND INFORMATION

BALANCE OF SIGNS
Scores: Aries 3; Taurus 0; Gemini 1; Cancer 0; Leo 3; Virgo 0; Libra 5; Scorpio 7; Sagittarius 5; Capricorn 0; Aquarius 2; Pisces 0


BALANCE OF ELEMENTS
Scores: Fire 11; Earth 0; Air 8; Water 7


BALANCE OF MODES
Scores: Cardinal 8; Fixed 12; Mutable 6


BALANCE OF HOUSES
Scores: 1st 5; 2nd 0; 3rd 0; 4th 2; 5th 0; 6th 3; 7th 1; 8th 0; 9th 0; 10th 0; 11th 2; 12th 7


BALANCE OF QUADRANTS
Scores: 1st Quadrant 5; 2nd Quadrant 5; 3rd Quadrant 1; 4th Quadrant 9


BALANCE OF HEMISPHERES
Scores: Eastern 14; Northern 10; Western 6; Southern 10


LUNAR PHASE: NEW MOON
No text available for information of this type.

BALANCE OF RAYS
Scores: 1st Ray 6; 2nd Ray 1; 3rd Ray 5; 4th Ray 12; 5th Ray 10; 6th Ray 5; 7th Ray 3

CHART POINTS

THE MOON

ASPECTS OF THE MOON
CONJUNCTION JUPITER Orb 4°06' Applying
This is a positive combination for any relationship enabling Alia and Dude to overcome any obstacles in life and embrace the happiness of the present moment. Alia and Dude enjoy each other's company and feel a certain zest for life when together. They share a need for fun-filled adventures and the capability of achieving their goals. Alia and Dude feel that the world is their oyster that is ready to explore together. This can include holidays in far-away places, adventure travel and also encompasses any activity that expands their minds and views of life. This is a meeting of higher-minds. Alia feels that Dude expands her horizons. Alia feels safe and appreciated in this relationship. Dude knows that Alia is a comrade in arms when it comes to fun and adventure. Dude feels that he is truly appreciated for his generosity and optimism. Together Alia and Dude can conquer the world. Nothing seems too far-fetched. This combination augurs well for a long lasting and happy relationship.

OPPOSITION SATURN Orb 2°47' Applying
Many astrologers believe that a connection between the serious planet Saturn and a personal planet such as the Moon is important, enabling the relationship to be long lasting. However, this can also be a difficult connection. Alia and Dude can both suffer from feelings of discontent and insecurity within this union. They work hard to cover up their sense that some emotional warmth is lacking, but there are times when they despair of getting their needs met. Alia feels this lack of emotional warmth keenly. It is difficult for her to relax and feel truly appreciated in this relationship. Dude brings a certain coldness to the union, finding it difficult to generate emotional warmth. Dude may feel that his attempts at intimacy are misunderstood and met with an overly-emotional reaction from Alia. Much work needs to be done in order to understand each other. On a positive note this combination of planets can indicate a committed to resolve difficulties. Therefore Alia and Dude have the strong possibility of being able to stay in this relationship on a long-term basis and reap the rewards of a stable and secure union. A satisfying relationship can result from Alia's and Dude's patience and persistence.

CONJUNCTION NEPTUNE Orb 1°12' Separating
Romance is a major theme in a union which involves the Moon and the planet Neptune. With this combination of planets Alia and Dude both feel that they are meant to be together. Perhaps they believe that it is a union of their souls. This is the height of romantic love. Alia and Dude intuitively understand each other and as a result their relationship proceeds from the start in a gentle and loving manner. They may simply enjoy relaxing in each other's company or together Alia and Dude may enjoy creative and harmonious pastimes which enhance their union bringing joy and fulfilment. They could work jointly on an artistic, musical or spiritual project, or simply share an inspirational hobby. Either way, they are drawn to each other in a way that is not logical. At times they may even feel as though they have a psychic connection. Alia feels inspired by Dude to the point of longing to be in Dude's company. Dude intuitively understands Alia's emotional needs and relates to Alia in a caring manner. This is a harmonious relationship. Problems can occur if Alia becomes overly dependent on Dude. However, on the whole it augurs well for a personal relationship which thrives on mutual love and understanding.

SEXTILE PLUTO Orb 2°09' Separating
This is an intense and powerful relationship. Alia and Dude feel a strong attraction to each other, one that seems to constantly draw them together. Sexual attraction may be powerful. Alia's and Dude's deep feelings for each other need to be nurtured in a loving manner in order for the union to be long lasting. This relationship can be a positive or a negative experience, depending on how Alia and Dude handle intense feelings. Some individuals thrive on intensity, while others feel threatened and powerless. Alia is likely to feel that Dude has transformed her life in some way. It's possible that Dude has changed the way that Alia feels about the world, making her conscious of things that have been bubbling under the surface for a long time. Life is not the same for Alia once she encounters Dude. Alia is able to see through the explosive behaviour to the true heart of Dude and to nurture Dude's goodness in ways that he has not previously encountered. As a result Dude deeply appreciates the emotional support offered by Alia. This is indeed a passionate union.

THE EARTH

ASPECTS OF THE EARTH
The Earth has no text available for aspects to subsequent chart points.

THE SUN

ASPECTS OF THE SUN
TRINE MARS Orb 5°45' Separating
This combination of the Sun and the planet Mars is a positive one for a working partnership that calls for concentrated effort on a joint project. It also ignites a strong sexual spark for a personal relationship, one that continues to flare throughout the union. It is an exciting combination. There is never a dull moment when Alia and Dude are together. They love and fight with energy. Alia and Dude are hard working and energetic, achieving more together than they can on their own. Together Alia and are able to tackle most of life's challenges with confidence and a positive attitude, taking the initiative, rather than sitting back and waiting for things to happen. Together they also enjoy taking few risks in life, particularly ones that satisfy their sense of adventure. They need only be wary of becoming too impulsive, of taking unnecessary risks that lead to dangerous ground. Alia feels that Dude provides the impetus and drive to help achieve her full potential. Alia is aware that her personality also helps Dude achieve his goals. is excited by Alia's powerful personality and is inspired in his ambitions. This is certainly a progressive relationship that makes an impact on both Alia and Dude and those around them.

VULCAN

ASPECTS OF VULCAN
Vulcan has no text available for aspects to subsequent chart points.

MERCURY

ASPECTS OF MERCURY
CONJUNCTION VENUS Orb 5°33' Applying
The combination of the personal planets of Mercury and Venus is a desirable one for an intimate union, and certainly advantageous to any association which requires harmony and collaboration. Alia and Dude enjoy each other's company, finding it easy to co-operate and share their experiences. They are compatible. Conversation has an easy flow and pastimes are fun, free of the restraints that sometimes hamper clear communication. Alia and Dude share an appreciation of the arts, perhaps even partaking in a joint creative or artistic activity. Discussions are harmonious because Alia and Dude are so often in agreement, including money. They concur on how money is saved and spent and enjoyed. Alia and Dude value the intellectual stimulation provided by each other. Alia, in particular, experiences mental inspiration from her association with Dude. Perhaps Dude is Alia's muse in some form of the arts. Alia gains confidence in her opinions and ideas as a result of her relationship with Dude. In return Dude appreciates Alia's intellect. Dude feels able to relax within this relationship knowing that Alia encourages rather than criticises him.

SQUARE THE NORTH NODE Orb 3°19' Applying
Good communication is the key to many successful relationships. However, this union between Alia and Dude is fraught with misunderstandings. There is a strong bond, but it is likely to be intellectual rather than emotional. Perhaps Alia and Dude have a common interest or friend, something that links them. Both Alia and Dude believe that fate has played a hand in bringing them together, but there are obstacles strewn in their path. This connection has faulty wiring. They may hold different opinions on a variety of matters. Alia and Dude spend much of their time together trying to sort out misapprehensions.

CONJUNCTION THE ASCENDANT Orb 6°25' Separating
It is significant in relationship astrology when one person's planet makes contact with the Ascendant in another person's chart. In this case Alia's Mercury is combining with Dude's Ascendant indicating that communication plays a key role in this relationship. Whether it is a love union, a friendship, relative or work association, this partnership thrives on honest and open communication. Alia places more emphasis on keeping spoken and written exchanges flowing. However, Dude also appreciates the manner in which this relationship enables him to share information and learn through interaction. This is a positive and lively relationship in which both Alia and Dude enjoy each other's company.

VENUS

ASPECTS OF VENUS
SQUARE THE NORTH NODE Orb 2°13' Separating
This is the combination of star-crossed lovers. The planet Venus and the North Node indicates a strong bond, but this blend is a difficult one. Fate has played a strong role in bringing Alia and Dude together, but it also challenges their bond. Perhaps theirs is an illicit love or maybe they have difficulty reconciling their differences. Money may be a source of conflict. Alia and Dude feel compelled to interact despite the difficulties. They are either passionate about each other or ardent about a joint artistic or creative project. This is a love story that needs to run its course.

CONJUNCTION THE ASCENDANT Orb 0°52' Separating
It is significant in relationship astrology when one person's planet makes contact with the Ascendant in another person's chart. In this case Alia's Venus is combining with Dude's Ascendant indicating that this is a significant personal relationship. Alia and Dude feel strongly drawn to each other, experiencing a sense of completeness in each other's company. Alia is in love with Dude, wanting to enjoy pleasurable activities and intimate moments. She appreciates the benefits that this union brings into her life. This relationship brings a wealth of benefits for Alia. In turn Dude has a greater sense of well-being through his association with Alia. He appreciates Alia's love of intimacy and her attitude to this union. Together they share a mutual respect and affection. While this combination is most likely to indicate an intimate love union, it can also augur well for friendships, family relationship and work associations.

MARS

ASPECTS OF MARS
Mars has no text available for aspects to subsequent chart points.

JUPITER

ASPECTS OF JUPITER
OPPOSITION SATURN Orb 1°19' Separating
A strong bond is formed as a result of this combination of the planets Jupiter and Saturn, but not necessarily an easy one. Alia and Dude have difficulty find the right balance between boldness and caution. On the one hand Alia is the risk-taker in this relationship, the person wanting to explore new territories and activities. She is excited by the many possibilities available as a result of this partnership's resources and feels constrained by Dude. This is because Dude errs on the side of discretion. He believes that a slow but sure approach is a sure sign of success. Dude believes in the edict "moderation in all things", whereas Alia espouses the adage "nothing ventured, nothing gained". Neither Alia nor Dude listen to each other. Both have trouble seeing things from the other person's point of view. This is true of friendships, marriage and work associations. It is possible that Alia and Dude have met in order to learn something from each other in order to become stronger and wiser for future relationships.

CONJUNCTION NEPTUNE Orb 5°18' Separating
This is a union of empathy and understanding, particularly in the areas of spiritual and religious beliefs. Both Alia and Dude understand and share each other's aspirations and dreams. At times their intuitive understanding of each other is so keen that they almost seem telepathically linked. It is possible that both Alia and Dude share a spiritual or religious conviction and belong to the same group or church. This may be a central force in their association. It is also possible that they take part in a philanthropic pursuit such as mission work in a foreign country or working for the same charitable organization. Whatever the outlet for their beliefs, both Alia and Dude appreciate and enjoy each other's values, thus enabling them to better pursue a more altruistic path in life. Alia and Dude brighten each other's lives through their shared beliefs.

TRINE CHIRON Orb 3°57' Applying
A beneficial and joyful relationship is the result of this combination of the planet Jupiter and Chiron. Alia and Dude are able to close the door on problems and hurts from previous relationship and enter into this liaison with a sense of joy. Together they heal each other's emotional pain, gaining understanding and insights into relating. Alia and Dude have common values and teach each other the joy and comfort that comes with a responsive and understanding union. Together Alia and Dude enjoy exploring new territory, perhaps in the healing, spiritual or teaching faculties. Alia is a positive influence on this union, bringing an optimism and enthusiasm that is attractive and bountiful.

SATURN

ASPECTS OF SATURN
OPPOSITION NEPTUNE Orb 3°59' Applying
The planet Saturn is a vital ingredient in relationship astrology. It is the planet that represents stability and commitment and is seen by astrologers as the necessary glue that holds a relationship together on a long-term basis. Of course not everyone is seeking long-term commitment, but for those who are Saturn is a welcome sign. In this case, however, the planet Neptune negates some of the influence of Saturn. The planet Neptune is one that dissolves and confuses matters. So on the one hand Alia and Dude feel strongly drawn to each other, but on the other hand they have difficulty maintaining a meaningful relationship. At first Alia and Dude may experience a feeling that their relationship was written in the stars. In other words they may feel as though they were destined to meet and form a union. This could be a personal relationship or a friendship that involves a spiritual, artistic or philanthropic project. Whatever the form of their relationship, Alia and Dude initially enjoy a meaningful bond. The difficulty lies in the long term. Alia and Dude begin to feel that they are pulling in opposite directions. They need to respect each other's differences in order for the relationship to succeed in the long term. Of course they may both agree that their union was destined to be for a short period only.

TRINE PLUTO Orb 4°56' Applying
The combination of the planets Saturn and Pluto indicates that this is an important relationship, although not necessarily a personal one. Alia and Dude combine their talents in a way that enhances their lives. Alia provides structure and security so that Dude can safely make any changes necessary in his life. In return Dude helps Alia break through any barriers created by his fears. For these reasons this can be a dynamic and satisfying union.

TRINE THE NORTH NODE Orb 5°20' Applying
The planet Saturn is a vital ingredient in relationship astrology. It is the planet that represents stability and commitment and is seen by astrologers as the necessary glue that holds a relationship together on a long-term basis. Of course not everyone is seeking long-term commitment, but for those who are Saturn is a welcome sign. This is particularly true of connections between one person's Saturn and another person's Sun, Moon, Ascendant or Nodes. In this case Alia's Saturn is combining with Dude's Node indicating that this is a significant relationship. Alia and Dude feel strongly drawn to each other, perhaps experiencing a sense that their relationship was written in the stars. In other words they may feel as though they were destined to meet and form a union. This is a significant relationship.

URANUS

ASPECTS OF URANUS
SEMISQUARE NEPTUNE Orb 1°42' Applying
Although not a major contributor to this relationship, the combination of the planets Uranus and Neptune can cause conflict. The problem is that Alia is looking for intellectual stimulation in this partnership, whereas Dude is seeking romance. Alia is keen to experience a certain amount of freedom in order to explore her individual pursuits. However, Dude yearns for romance and sharing in common interests. Their values differ and it is hard to meet in the middle.

OPPOSITION CHIRON Orb 4°03' Separating
Healing and growth are possible in this relationship, but the road to new understandings is bumpy. The challenge for Alia and Dude is to forgive and forget loved ones, who have hurt them in the past so that they can move forward in their lives. Alia may force radical changes in Dude's life, which are initially painful but eventually prove healing in certain ways. 's insecurities may prompt Alia to re-evaluate her commitments to the relationship. The success of this relationship will largely depend on other aspects of Alia and Dude s union.

NEPTUNE

ASPECTS OF NEPTUNE
SEXTILE PLUTO Orb 0°57' Applying
This planetary combination of Neptune and Pluto is not a significant one in relationship astrology. It indicates common values, which can help form a basis for a relationship. However, many other combinations of planets will make a more significant contribution to this union between Alia and Dude.

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posted August 30, 2007 04:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Got Gemini?     Edit/Delete Message
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Alia
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posted August 30, 2007 03:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Alia     Edit/Delete Message
GGemini thank u for the davison...it was all great until saturn neptune came up...i hate that one,,,
yes i feel it was written in the stars but he left me after 3 months sayin i need some time. he hasnt contact me yet last time we spoke was 2 weeks ago.[jus a short im from him]
is there any way to see if some transit might bring us back together?
thank u

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posted August 30, 2007 05:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for girlloveboy     Edit/Delete Message
Hi, Alia

I read your posts about your relationship with that man, and since i have some similar experiences, i would like to give you some advice, which helped me a lot.

So, the first thing which you need to accept, that he has Aqua Asc, which means, he FEARS to commit, since anybody with Aqua influence so love freedom.
But, on the other hand, its a GOOD SIGN that he said he needed time: it shows he has deep feelings for you, but for Aquas is sth so hard to understand.
They need time to progress their feelings.

I would advice you take some questions for yourself.
for eaxample: Do you trust him enough to believe him, that he would write you once the time arrives for him?
Or if not, then why not?
If you can answer these questions, then you will be able to go on with your life, and not just waiting for him. Thats the worst you can do, belive me, i know.

And sth else: nothing happens by chance.
Maybe you also have some issues to do while you two are apart, just maybe you dont yet know about.
Use this time to get know yourself more.
No one can tell you, whether he would return or not.
ONLY you.
But if he says he would contact you, then be sure he would.
Especially because Saturn in his 7th will make him to bring decision. SAturn is also about commitment, BUT it could also cause delay.
So be patient.
Focus on yourself, on your life.
And if you can do that, he would return when you would expect the least.
If this relationship has future, then he will come back to you.
Trust in him, trust in Life.

Wish you all the best

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Alia
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posted August 30, 2007 07:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Alia     Edit/Delete Message
thank u girloveboy...
what u say does ring right , is also what he told me... he said i need u to work on yourself for a while, build yourself up
and he also said there will be always flow between us, what we share isnt fading

is just so hard wakin up every day and face the huge hole of his absence ...he used to im and email everyday when he woke up and we were always connected.
he s gettin out of a relation of 7 years w his ex and he said he s got alot of baggage and also said - breakin my heart- feel free to date other guys and be w someone else.
that one alone right there just killed me.

last time when i thought it was all over w him cos he hadnt talk for a month he imed me sayin 'hello talk soon.' is been 2 weeks and nothing. i dont know why he tortures me like this if he wants to talk why he doesnt but sends these short messages...

yes aqua AC is afraid of commitment...but he lived 7 years w his ex so maybe his taurus planets give him some stability,,,?

to answer yr question, yes i do believe he ll be back. is a gut feeling i never had before. and i try to visualise it every day with desire ,and hoping that the thought form will become reality. i feel a karmic connection w him ..but sometimes i think i m just wishfully thinking.

i m trying to see other people go places but all i have in the back of my mind is: this would be so fun if he was here w/me.

i know i have to be patient ... and trust the universe...

you said u had similar experience...how did it turn for you? did he come back?
i wish you good luck as well if u still love him..
thank you for yr post :X :X

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posted August 31, 2007 03:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Got Gemini?     Edit/Delete Message
I don't know how to do transits yet. I just learned how to do the Davisons lol. And honestly, all I did for the Davison report was enter your birth data and click on an option that allows you to combine charts. Then I click on full chart report. So its not like I did a lot of work on my own lol!

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posted August 31, 2007 04:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for girlloveboy     Edit/Delete Message
HI, Alia

I can understand you miss him much, BUT: the worst thing you can do is to WAIT him, to dream about him... it was typically Aqua from for telling you be with others etc.. because he wants you to detach yourself, just like he did.
Becuase until you're always thinking about him, you just waste your time.
Am i right that you also have some planets in Taurus? If yes, i know how difficoult is - i have venus in Taurus - but you have to be strong.
At the moment you can realize the purpose of this break - on your side - the whole thing will seem much easier.
I believe he send those short mails, to show you, he's ok, he didnt forget about you... just its not yet the right time to return to you.
If you believe its a karmic and very significant relationship in your life, then be sure it wants to teach you sth...sth you need to cope without him.
Just try to relax.
Do things you like to do.
Enjoy yourself.
And DO NOT THINK ABOUT HIM much.

Yes, i have similar experiences, though im also still in it, so i cant tell you the final result yet.
But i did suffer a lot when he disappeared from my everyday life... and since it was the moment when Saturn entered my 12th house, my whole life fell into pieces.
And it was last year.
Now, im compeletely new person, who knows well this break between us was needed, and even it was the most painful period of my life, now im better then ever before.
I got relieved, and think about him less and less.
And just like you, i believe he will return, when we are both will be ready.

So relax, accept this situation and then you will see, he will appear when you the least would expect.

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posted August 31, 2007 06:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Alia     Edit/Delete Message
hello Girlloveboy... I am thinkin less about him..but the first 2 months were just pure hell.
the total silence..
and having him one mile away from my door..
hard to 4get him also bcs we were workin on a project together- in music- and now he took that away from me, ... i could meet other musicians but is never like with the one you click with, betw. me and him there was the magic, the perfect wavelenght, we were so attuned with eachother ... thats not easy to replace.
i know there s always a reason why things happen... im yet to find the meaning of this one ...
I have venus in taurus too,,,
also my MC is in taurus, and my NN.
he s got 3 planets, sun, venus,jupiter and SN all connected to my venus and NN.
and i cant help dreaming about him..
u know the day he imed me, the night before i dreamed of my laptop flooded with ims all sayin 'hi' and when i went to close all those windows more and more opened up.so i realised they were all from him. then i woke up and forgot all about the dream.when i came back home that night there was an im from him on my laptop. i suddenly remembered my dream and freaked out about the connection,,, too intense...
now im limiting myself to think of him just be4 sleep and when i wake up ,when i do the visual meditation - feel grateful for see him,hear him,feel him,smell and taste, is an exercise i read ...if u desire it and picture it in yr mind vividly the desire converts in reality ...i really dont like that he wants me to get detached and tells me to date others...cos if i really did, i d be over with him and he d be out of my life for good. if he cared,he d be at least worried about me goin out w other guys...
i dont know...
im confused.
he always im me when the moon is in virgo..
he s got moon in 7th in virgo...but he doesnt know astrology .
sorry for the long post!!!
is almost 4 am here , wow...i should sleep..

*hugs* ~ Alia

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posted August 31, 2007 11:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ErickaF     Edit/Delete Message
What about venus squared ASC in Davison or Sun squared ASC??!

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Hi, Alia

I can understand that you fed up with this situation, but if theres sth i really learned by Saturn is that sometimes we have to wait and be patient.
Im also an Aries, so i know how hard for us just sitting and waiting for sth or sby.
I hurted my loved one with being impatient with him, which was the BIGGEST lesson for me.

You said you trust your man enough.
And do you love him enough to wait for him?
You said, you feel that he's your Soul mate.
Soul mate relationships are NOT EASY at all.
So, beside the great happiness you also must accept that it would be hard at some point. Happiness and pain are comes together...
I also had similar experiences like you regarding your dream...

He needs time, but he dont want you to suffer during this period.
Focus on yourself. (if you dont want to be with someone else)

Saturn will soon conjunct his Moon in his 7th so i think it would bring sth regarding his relationship.
Also, you said he is after a long term relationship. If it wasnt a long time ago,then maybe his head was still around his ex at some way, and he wants to make clear his mind before he get into sth serious with you. He's also a Taurus Venus, so change regarding love is hard for him.

I saw you posted your synstry on the astro forum. Believe me, astrology cant tell you whether he would return or not.
You are the one, who makes your future... its up to you.
You need to find the answers inside you.
Maybe when you meditate, try to focus on yourself, and not on him.
Or do you know I CHING? If not i recommend it you.

After all, everything is your choice.
I tell you my opinion, because Saturn taught me many things, and as i said you, im in a similar situation.

At the moment, theres little you can do with him, so enjoy yourself.
Thats the best i can advice you.

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Alia
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posted August 31, 2007 04:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Alia     Edit/Delete Message
yes,... they split up in january...but they still live in the same house as roomates.i bet this causes more unbalance in his life..

some times he said he wanted to move in with me, but then he backed up sayin' i was just thinking aloud'.

i also made a mistake arguing all the time that he didnt see me enough, sometimes we only met once a week and that was so frustrating for me...so i complained alot..

i do love him enough to wait for him...even if maybe is a mistake?
i just scream at the thought that another man might even touch me.

i feel my body belongs 2 him along w my soul

he did say,theres nothin i d like more than for you to be happy, but dont relay on me or anyone else,find it in yourself first.

i did the iching... i got this book very good where it s semplified..i asked if he s the man of my life and i got

17-following
with 6 at second place
'tied to the small son,you let the respectable manager go'
(you have chosen to follow the small child and let go of the responsible manager.you are alone and must adapt to what crosses your path)

not sure what that means but he s younger so he might be the small child?

also 6 at the top,
grappled and tied to it,thus the adherents are held fast to it.the king makes a sacrifice on the western mountains
(you are firmly attached to what you follow,and others are held fast thru you.you are enshrined in the hall of ancestors.you become a presence in people s imagination.this is as far as you can go)

then changed into 10, -treading

treading on a tiger s tail.
It does not snap at people.success.

proceed carefully step by step.the path is there.think about the right way to act .theres a powerful force in front of you.ur walkin in the tracks of the tiger.
if ur careful and perceptive the tiger will give u wht you need to exist and keep harm away.
speak to it and u can partake of his power and intelligence.dont do anything who make it bite you.you cannot afford to sneer and scold.this will bring u success.meet the outer struggle carefully. develope yr ability to move with the way. the impulse to movement u feel now can connect you with somethin important.do not be disheartened.cotinuing yr efforts will bring a profund change.

english is my second language so is not all clear but doesnt look too bad,,,how would u interpret it?

i also asked recently if he d contact me within the few months ahead and i got

50- the vessel

the vessel is fundamentally open.success.
this exagram represents transformation and connection to the invisible world.it gives you the capacity to change yr situation through an image- i do alot of visualising-!
u need to see deeply in yr problem and examine it until its spiritual meaning comes out.this will give u a new security.
break thru old habits and experience renewal.


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posted August 31, 2007 05:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for girlloveboy     Edit/Delete Message
Hi

I've just checked your IChing - i have a great book - and its really positive

n°17 - following
Its simply means you need to follow your destiny.
YOu said you feel he is your destiny - then follow it!
Leave your fears, your pain and remember yourself, this whole situation is happens for sth great purpose.
Dont let your ego to mislead you - our ego doesnt like suffering, so you have to cope with it.
Just be patient, the time works for you, if you truly believe in it

°10 - treading
I also got this sometimes - its all about PATIENT
Do not want things to happen fast - everything has its own time to happen

n°50 - vessel
it says that if you willing to sacrifyze for him - so accept his need for time - then you will get what you want.
Leave everything which would disturbe you from the past - you need to reborn (Saturn transiting your 1st house also about that)
You need to make structure for the new period.
Remember what happened with you when Saturn were transit your 12th house - it can help

So keep believing and you will have success.
Just follow your heart
All the best to you

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Alia
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posted August 31, 2007 06:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Alia     Edit/Delete Message
thank you GLB!!!!
someone said i ching just reflect your desire and yr hopes /state of mind so is not really an oracle but i believe it is,some of the lines are just scary sometimes so much they describe things...

i dont exactly remember when saturn was in my 12th but i think i was still in my bad marriage...(2003 to late 2006)

i will learn patience for sure..you r so right the ego doesnt cope with pain...
mine especially being overinflated by aries/leo rising,,,

but im learning slowly by the day...im grateful i found this board where i can talk to alot of sensitive and spiritually evolved people!

good luck to you as well you deserve it

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posted September 01, 2007 04:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for girlloveboy     Edit/Delete Message
Alia

Believe me, I Ching has nothing to do with your desires - its a gudeline by the Higher World! It helps you to know if your ego wants to mislead you.
So just trust in it and use frequently.

hope everything will turn good to you.
I hope the same, thanks

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Alia
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posted September 01, 2007 05:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Alia     Edit/Delete Message
ok...thanks for yr help...and your i ching interpretation !

somewhere i read about not ask i ching too often or you get the n. 4 ...

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