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Topic: True Love
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Juno Knowflake Posts: 133 From: UK Registered: Jan 2006
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posted November 29, 2006 03:29 PM
I thought I'd jump in with the big question. What aspect astrologically do you think points to True Love? Anyone?IP: Logged |
aqua inferno Knowflake Posts: 233 From: body‘s in the office, brain’s in the sky Registered: Oct 2006
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posted November 29, 2006 06:00 PM
Oooo that’s tough. Venus conj Jupiter is niiiiice and so is Moon conj Neptune. Also Venus aspecting Pluto if you don’t mind oscillating between true love and hate. ummm can’t think of anything else. Something conj the north or south node maybe? I know two people with this. I love one dearly, and hate the other dearly. Both Cancer boys haha IP: Logged |
Juno Knowflake Posts: 133 From: UK Registered: Jan 2006
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posted November 29, 2006 07:10 PM
umm how about mars/moon aspects? Passion and emotions combined....what orb would you use for the Nep/moon conjunction? I always thought that could be a bit dangerous anyway. How about sun conjunct or pararell Venus? and then there is the big chiron question, does that really matter? IP: Logged |
Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 1185 From: Sacramento,California,USA Registered: Jul 2006
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posted November 29, 2006 10:16 PM
My girlfriend's Venus in Taurus trines my Virgo Ascendant with only 3 minutes of arc. Our ascendants oppose each other with 16 minutes of arc. That means her descendant conjuncts my ascendant,and my ascendant conjuncts her descendant. She has Venus sextile Ascendant,and so my Ascendant links to that. Her 5th house ruler Scorpio Moon conjuncts my 12th house ruler Scorpio Sun with 3'56 orb and trines my 11th house rule Moon with 1'47 orb. Our moons parallel with 31 minutes of arcdefinitely a strong physical,love,romantic,relationship connection...that's also a very emotional,sensitive, spiritual,friendship connection as well. She and I don't have Pluto aspects in synastry,but we have very strong 8th house synastry. Pluto is natural ruler of 8th house. My Sun,Mercury,and Venus are in her 8th house. Her Sun,Mercury,and Mars are in my 8th house. She and I don't have Moon-Neptune aspects,but we have something similar. My Pisces Moon is in her 12th house. Her stationary Neptune is in my 4th house and parallels my IC with 4 minutes of arc. Her 12th house ruler Uranus conjuncts my IC with 2'14 orb and parallel my IC with 26 minutes of arc. 12th house is the house naturally ruled by Neptune. 4th house is the house naturally ruled by Moon. IC is the 4th house cusp. very intense,spiritual connection.
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miss_muffet Knowflake Posts: 530 From: Registered: Mar 2004
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posted November 30, 2006 03:12 PM
Venus in good aspects to the major planets in the other person will create harmonious love relationship.Chiron aspects promotes healing of past hurts. Mercury aspects rules communication between the two individuals. Wasn't that the Vertex to Venus aspect that is also a good indicator? All the above are just signs that nudges the individuals... there is no guarantee. Only Free Will. Miss Muffet IP: Logged |
AcousticGod Knowflake Posts: 7714 From: Pleasanton, CA, USA Registered: May 2005
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posted November 30, 2006 04:27 PM
Sun/Moon conjunctions are supposed to be the soul mate connections.Female Venus conjunct Male Mars
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Mama Mia Knowflake Posts: 1587 From: Registered: Jun 2005
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posted November 30, 2006 05:20 PM
Sun cojunct moon Sun conjunct Venus Moon Conjunct Mars Venus conjuct Mars Venus Trine/conjuct PlutoAll these in one chart btw two ppl along with a little hit of Saturn touching down and some north node and south node touching.. IP: Logged |
Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 1185 From: Sacramento,California,USA Registered: Jul 2006
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posted December 01, 2006 12:19 AM
Sun 8th house The placement of the Sun in eighth house of a partner's chart suggests that the basis of the relationship may have been his need for a fundamental change of some sort that you recognized and are/were able to assist him in making. The eighth house relates to joint financial affairs and security, and the relationship may feature a mutual need for security; either in a material or emotional sense. You may tend to be very critical of this partner, but this criticism would be constructively aimed at stimulating self-improvement and personal development. If other factors in the chart are favorable, there can be a sexual attraction shown by this placement since the eighth house is strongly associated with sex. Mercury 8th house Mercury in the eighth house is a good comparative placement for two individuals engaged in business together, and it is also good for understanding the deeper needs and the unconscious motivations in a close relationship. It denotes understanding in both the material and in the emotional side of life. There may be mutual interests in psychic or occult issues; research of the unknown.
Venus 8th house With Venus in the 8th house, feelings are apt to be very deep-rooted and the emotional reaction to each other in the relation will be very strong, for better or worse. This placement produces a very strong sexual attraction. This is not necessarily a guarantee of permanence, but rather a seductive allure and fascination that yields an especially significant physical combination.
Moon 12th house The Moon in partner's twelfth house produces a strong emotional and intuitive link, making you extremely aware of one another's moods and feelings. This denotes sympathetic understanding, empathy and mutual compassion. On the negative side, this placement can also stimulate each other's self-destructive tendencies and encourage self-deceptions and hangups. In any case, there is a strong psychic link and a deep intuitive awareness.
Moon trine Moon This connection provides good emotional rapport and harmony. This is a great aspect for people in the same family or living in the same household. There is mutual understanding of one another without losing yourselves in the process. Companionship, cooperation, and a spirit of helpfulness make this an excellent combination for an enduring partnership or marriage. Sun conjunct Moon When the Sun in one chart is conjunct with the Moon in the other, there is an extremely strong indication of a powerful romantic relationship and potential for marriage. The Moon person is emotionally in tune with the Sun person. This relationship works best if the Sun person is naturally in a role of leadership. In a marriage relationship, this aspect shows a strong sexual attraction. In this aspect, there is some tendency for the Sun to dominate the Moon to a degree. In any event, the conjunction makes two people fast friends with a deep mutual understanding and appreciation of one another. The spirit of cooperation is significant.
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BlueEyes24 Knowflake Posts: 454 From: Registered: Jun 2006
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posted December 01, 2006 12:14 PM
There are so many...But I think Venus conjunct or trine someone's Ascendant is a big one... sometimes even more potent than sun in aspect to venus for some reason. And of course Sun conjunct, trine, or sextile moon....venus conjunct mars....mars conjunct or opposite moon....venus conjunct pluto....moon trine or conjunct the other's moon, etc.... And I love Moon Conjunct Ascendant. You feel soo emotionally comfortable with the other person...and you can share openly with them about anything. IP: Logged |
Dulce Luna Knowflake Posts: 1698 From: The Asylum Registered: Mar 2006
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posted December 01, 2006 01:50 PM
Venus conjunct one of the nodesAnd.... venus conjunct chiron (sextile and trine work too) Sun/moon positive aspects venus/moon aspects venus/pluto positive aspects (sometimes the challenging ones work too depending on how evolved the two individuals are) venus/neptune positive aspects IP: Logged |
CapGirl Knowflake Posts: 326 From: Indianapolis, IN, USA Registered: Mar 2006
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posted December 01, 2006 02:21 PM
Hey MamaMia... what do you have with that gym guy (Aqua?) as far as aspects?IP: Logged |
Mama Mia Knowflake Posts: 1587 From: Registered: Jun 2005
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posted December 01, 2006 02:52 PM
Hey Capg: How are things going???All of what I described above...True Love.. IP: Logged |
Juno Knowflake Posts: 133 From: UK Registered: Jan 2006
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posted December 01, 2006 03:13 PM
ok what signifies true love and a lasting attatchement?IP: Logged |
Mama Mia Knowflake Posts: 1587 From: Registered: Jun 2005
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posted December 01, 2006 03:21 PM
Well we have already placed the true love factors, On the lasting attachment could be Saturn conjunt Venus/moon..Is one but you have to be two mature ppl to weather what may come with this..If two ppl want it to last and work at it then it will last.. IP: Logged |
CapGirl Knowflake Posts: 326 From: Indianapolis, IN, USA Registered: Mar 2006
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posted December 01, 2006 03:40 PM
Hey MM! Oh cripeys, I have been trying to do "no contact" and am going strong at 8 weeks- longest ever- but just paid 45 bucks for an indepth Liz Greene relationship report on us! LOL So, on all fronts I'm moving on, but behind the scenes- yea, right! LOL We have a double whammy mars conjunct venus, moon conjunct neptune, mars conjunct sun, NN conjunct venus-- just too many aspects to list-- along with some tough squares- moon square venus, mars square moon! Venus square pluto, sun-pluto double whammy, and moon-pluto whammy, moon-moon conjunction. This relationship is taking me DOWN. lol The LG report is a great one though and was really helpful. Don't know if it's worth $45, because it was immediately generated and available (wtf?) but 44 pages long. IP: Logged |
Mama Mia Knowflake Posts: 1587 From: Registered: Jun 2005
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posted December 01, 2006 03:45 PM
quote: This relationship is taking me DOWN. lolI guess this is bad huhn??? I feel pretty good I must say.. IP: Logged |
CapGirl Knowflake Posts: 326 From: Indianapolis, IN, USA Registered: Mar 2006
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posted December 01, 2006 03:54 PM
Oh, I just mean that it has effected me deeply for good and bad... transformative... that kind of thing. Is Aqua-man still "running?"IP: Logged |
Mama Mia Knowflake Posts: 1587 From: Registered: Jun 2005
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posted December 01, 2006 04:12 PM
Nah, we have been chatting a lil bit lately..Have not seen him outside the gym though...He wants to see me though, I have just been playig it cool,what ever is whatever..I know that he can't keep his hands off me.. IP: Logged |
Juno Knowflake Posts: 133 From: UK Registered: Jan 2006
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posted December 01, 2006 07:23 PM
Aquarian men have alot to answer for! ok well what about moon trine saturn ...almost an exact trine? For lasting relationships.IP: Logged |
Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 1185 From: Sacramento,California,USA Registered: Jul 2006
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posted December 01, 2006 09:34 PM
My Sun conjuncts my girlfriend's Saturn with 2'35 orb. My Moon trines her Saturn with 26 minutes of arc. It's actually my Pisces Moon in her 12th trines the conjunction of her Scorpio Moon-Saturn conjunction in 7th house/near 8th and my Scorpio Sun in her 8th house. That can indicate serious,stable relationship with a lot of depth,sensitivity,intensity,empathy,and understanding,caring,and most of all loyalty. Sun conjunct Saturn This is a very difficult aspect between charts. There may be jealousy, or a dampening of self-confidence and enthusiasm. This comparative combination does not favor romantic relationships because of the heavy authoritarian implications. However, when aspects do form in spite of this aspect, the staying power of Saturn usually helps keep you together permanently.
Moon trine Saturn This comparative combination is helpful for cooperation in serious responsibilities, business matters, and domestic affairs. It is not an indicator of romantic attractions, but it certainly improves the durability of a relationship by conferring a practical, responsible approach to everyday issues and problems. You may tend to rely on each other for security or stability. Saturn tends to be the restraining or disciplining influence in the relationship. I feel that it's her Saturn aspects to my planets that kinda make me forget that I am 12 years older than her with my being 35 and her being 23. It's like we feel like we are on the same leve. I feel her to be mature for her age. She is a very serious,reserved,introverted person like me. Saturn aspects are said to be common in couples with significant age difference.
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Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 1185 From: Sacramento,California,USA Registered: Jul 2006
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posted December 02, 2006 09:22 PM
according to Stephen Arroyo,PSYCHIC HOUSES These houses are associated with the water signs and this can have an effect on me in those areas where I am most psychic,sensitive,and vulnerable. Planets falling in these houses reveal those aspects or qualities of the other person that influence me emotionally, that can penetrate deeply into me. Thus, I will often be somewhat threatened by such a person because I am so vulnerable to him. There, I can react to the other person by fearing or disliking him; or I can open up to him in the hope that we can develop a relationship at a deep,soul level. People who planets or ascendant fall in my water houses are able to penetrate into the depths of my being, and to reveal my limitations,weaknesses,and deepest desires. Such deep contact between people can result in profound,intense,emotional ties; but there is often a tendency toward explosions,upheavals,instability,and constant irritation on my part. The future of the relationship will depend a great deal not only upon how I react to this threat(which is also a possibility for closeness), but also upon the other person's attitude toward the power that he has over me. A relationship with many ties in these houses will prosper mainly if the two people are emotionally at peace with themselves. 4th house
Planets falling my fourth house affect my most personal,deep,vulnerable emotions in the roots of my being. The effect of planets in this house, therefore, is usually experienced as either comfortable and secure or as a disturbing and frustrating. For example, Pluto falling in my fourth can represent a profoundly disturbing effect upon the emotional foundations of my existence, which may turn out to be either a positive or negative experience. Planets here also effect domestic tranquility, and one's ability to totally relax in someone else's presence. 8th house Planets falling in my eighth house stimulate deep,often sexual and erotic,powerful feelings in me. If the planets are stressfully aspected, there may be a power struggle; and I may find my efforts to exert power and control over the other person disrupted or thwarted. This house in part represents my emotional search for values,which effort on my part can be helped or hindered by the other person. The eighth house also represent a test of my responsibility in the use of my power. Planets falling in this house can also have the effect of producing some type of spiritual awakening in me, as well as a powerful yearning for emotional peace and healing at a deep level. 12th house Planets falling in my twefth house affect me emotionally in ways that can awaken me to the unknown, to that which is essentially beyond my understanding. Planets in my twelfth influence me through vague,usually-confusing emotions. Such influences often awaken fear in me, although planets here can also greatly influence my spiritual development. In other words, planets falling in the twelfth stimulate growth,development,and change in profoundly deep ways, affecting very roots of the emotions at the spirtiual level. Influences represented by planets falling in the twelfth house are essentially beyond my conscious understanding. Therefore, I often react to this aspect of the other person with distrust,worry,fear,or uneasiness. This is especially if the planets falling in my twelfth are "malefics". If the planets are "benefics", then I can often sense some kind of hidden support from the other person. The twelfth house generally indicates the blind spot in ourselves, the influences from others of which we are vageuly conscious. For example, if the other person's ascendant falls in my twelfth house, he is essentially beyond my understanding. He bewilders and confuses me. I feel overwhelmed by him. Thus, I can react to him by giving way to my irrational fears, or I can appreciate the sense of mystery and complexity that he inspires in me. The twelfth house is especially important in chart comparisons; for it can reveal the needs of a soul for future growth and give quite specific clues about karmic ties with the other person. For example, why am I so irrationally fearful of violence from Mr. M? Astrologically, his Mars falls in my twelfth house. Do these emotions come from nowhere? Or do they indicate, along with the astrological symbols, a past relationship in which I experienced the potential violence of Mr. M? These questions can be answered only in the personal experience of each of us. What I am emphasizing here is that the twelfth house indicates(both in the natal chart and in synastry) things that we have to come to terms with and integrate in our conscious spiritual-psychological growth. Therefore, an analysis of our close friends'(and enemies'!) charts in comparison with our own can reveal things that we all need to be aware of in to live and relate more freely. my Sun,Mercury,and Venus in my girlfriend's 8th house. My Moon and Mars in her 12th house so I have 5 planets in her psychic houses
Her Sun,Mercury,and Mars are in my 8th house. Her stationary Neptune is in my 8th house. Her Stationary Jupiter is conjunct my IC(4th house cusp)with only 19 minutes of arc. Her Uranus is conjunct my IC. so she has 4 planets in my psychic houses along with 2 planets influencings my psychic houses so she has 6 planets influencing my psychic houses altogether we have 9 planets in psychic houses in our synastry and overall 11 planets influencing the psychic houses in our synastry.
My Pisces Moon trine the conjunction of her Scorpio Moon-Saturn conjunction and my Scorpio Sun my Moon in her 12th house and her stationary Neptune in my 4th house (that's a mutual house reception..the planets are in the houses that it rules......Moon rules 4th house,and Neptune rules 12th house....Her Neptune is stationary,and that's considered a strong Neptune energy..so it has a more powerful influence in house than a nonstationary Neptune does. my 12th house ruler(Sun)is in her 8th house conjuncts her Moon-Saturn conjunction. Her 8th house ruler(Mars) is in my 8th house sextiles my 8th house ruler(Mars) that indicates an unusually high amount of emotional depth,sensitivity between us. She and I are quite vulnerable to each other. She and I do profoundly emotionally affect each other. IP: Logged |
Arnicka Knowflake Posts: 657 From: Registered: Jun 2004
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posted December 14, 2006 06:40 AM
Moon conjunct Venus! ~ hello Heaven........! IP: Logged |
D for Defiant Knowflake Posts: 1005 From: Registered: May 2006
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posted December 14, 2006 08:22 AM
Sorry, I'm going to be speaking somewhat off the topic here...(after all the subject matter is what astrological placements...)True love How does it work? How will it work? How would it "work best"? I think, it largely has to do with Free Will... However, I'd like to do my utmost to respect the voice from the other side, God's Will... At present, I personally tend to lean forward Free Will... But is it Free Will, or God's Will? Honestly, it's still a mystery to me, I Have not found the "definitive" answer- yet But I think both sides have their value and wisdom... So... Just my humble, but nevertheless Personal opinion... Since it's, to me, either Free Will, Or God's Will... For me at least, it's relatively Comforting to K-now that, It may just as well has to do with God's Will Or provided I choose to believe single-mindedly that, It's my Free Will... The thing is, No matter what, I believe that God Plays a crucial role In both Free Will And God's Will... Just differences upon the levels, styles, etc... So, God is leading me to find my way, Throughout my journey of returning home, So I guess I could sit back, relax a little And just let it flow... IP: Logged |
Arnicka Knowflake Posts: 657 From: Registered: Jun 2004
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posted December 15, 2006 04:18 AM
hey D,What abt the theory that before youre born you choose everything thats gonna happen to you anyway IP: Logged |
D for Defiant Knowflake Posts: 1005 From: Registered: May 2006
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posted December 15, 2006 06:02 AM
Hi Arnicka I don't quite understand what you were getting at. But, in any event, Mama Mia has put it graciously. Glaucus has provided lots of info and insight. Personally, I think, among many other planetary aspects between two people in love- the Venus signs of the individuals concerned play crucial roles. Also comparing a couple's Mars signs, see if their sexual energy meet each other's needs. But I suppose this sounds a bit like cliche? It would be more desirable to see more harmonious mutual aspects between two lovers, rather than sharing more challenging ones then harmonious ones between the two. Just my two cents. IP: Logged | |