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Dreamybecca
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From: Madrid, Spain
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posted December 05, 2006 03:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreamybecca     Edit/Delete Message
Hello everyboy,
I don't think somebody would remember me but you really adviced me long ago
about this Sag guy who used to be a "friend" of mine
(I am not very sure if we are still friends...this
year has been a really strange one with him, and he
has really hurt me and made me feel like real crap)
and well, guys, you were right. I think some of you
told me to be careful with him... you were right. The
last year sometimes I have felt like I was waking up
from a dream. I have felt used emotionally by him... I
guess I have learnt something...
All these months I have wanted to come here and thank
you for your advice (although as usual in me, I didn't
listen carefully) but now I work fulltime and I also
enrolled myself in a master degree, so let's say that
my free time is almost gone...
I also wanted to tell you that I promised myself that
I wouldn't "allow" myself to like/love anybody else in
a looooooooong way... but of course, something has
happened and now I think I feel a bit scared deep
inside me. I don't want to go through something
similar again, and I feel sad
Like 2 weeks ago, some new people started to work in
my department, and well, one of them is a Taurus guy,
whose deck is next to me...and well, he is very nice.
So polite, so gentle, so hardworking... Everybody is
so glad with him, everybody says he is just lovely, a
gentleman...
You see, never say never...
Well, thank you for all the advice you gave me.

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Happy Dragon
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posted December 05, 2006 04:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Happy Dragon     Edit/Delete Message
~ Dreamybecca ~

** some new people started to work in
my department, and well, one of them is a Taurus guy,
whose deck is next to me **
so .. no need for a sad face then .. :-))

if you take a look at this link .. you'll find some info regarding both signs ..
* http://www.happydragon.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/jkbx/audiofls.html *

be well
~ Hd ~

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Dreamybecca
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From: Madrid, Spain
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posted December 06, 2006 03:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreamybecca     Edit/Delete Message
Hello Happy Dragon,
Yes, there is a need for a sad face...he has a girlfriend, and relationship are sacred for me
At the beginning, I caught him many times watching me and honestly, he makes me SO nervous... Most of the time, when he needs help, he looks at me, and asks me
for help, but little by little, he is socialising with the rest, of course.
One day, he mentionned that he has a girlfriend, and well, I got quite sad (and this was the moment when I realised I liked him...I am in trouble )
Basically, as I have mentioned above, relationships are sacred for me, so I am
not going to get in the middle or flirt (although I don't know how to flirt!). Anyway, I had the feeling something was not going ok with his girlfriend and him, as if his girlfriend didn't pay too much attention to him...once he made some remark about it, but on Monday, we exchanged a few emails and he told me about his girlfriend and him. he cannot stand the situation anymore and it seems he is going to leave her. It was a bit sad and I tried to adviced him the best I could.
He seems to be a quite reserved person, so taking into account that he has being working here for like 2 weeks, I found a bit strange that he told me that about he and his girlfriend... and he also asked me if I had a boyfriend...
I am a bit confused, because he is very nice with me, somehow he has found out about me loving the tv-series HOUSE, and suddenly the other day he told me he could
ask his girlfriend to get me the latest episodes broadcasted in USA...and well, I got shocked and flattered, but later I got confused because he added to his messenger this other girl at work (now I know that he has added me more people at work...but it seems he prefers to "chat" with me via email...I don't understand)...I got
speechless... He hadn't asked me to add me to the messenger, even when I am the person with whom he has had more contact in the department...
To add more confussion, on Friday while we were at work, he sent me an email asking me about my opinion about how they (the new ones) were doing at work...
That was the beginning of a few little emails between us. He thanked me for all my help at work, he told me he didn't know what he would have done without me all these days, that he felt a bit lonely and lost when I left each day (we have different shifts), etc and in the last little email he told me that he has only
known me for a little time, but that he thought I am a great person, intelligent, gentle, fond of travelling and sweet, and that he thought he was not mistaken...
I am sure I was SOOOOOO red when I read that...
When he told me about his girlfriend and him, he thanked me for my advice and having listened to him, he said I was a really good person and workmate.
I feel very confused. Is he just been nice? He doesn't seem to be a player at all, but I am scared somehow. I have become a very cautious person, and especially because this is happening at work, and some people there are kind of evil and too much into gossip. Somehow I have a "protective" feeling towards him, and I think it is mutual.
Funny enough, he reminds me of the best male friend I had when I was around 13...he was Taurus. He was just such a good person...
How are Taurus guys when they like somebody? How do they behave?
I only know his birth date, but not the exact time or the place, anyway I will try to check his "chart" in internet.
Any feedback will be welcome! Thank you indeed.

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Dreamybecca
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posted December 06, 2006 03:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreamybecca     Edit/Delete Message
Sorry for my mistakes...I tried to type so fast...

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Dreamybecca
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posted December 06, 2006 03:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreamybecca     Edit/Delete Message
I almost forgot, thank you very much Happy Dragon, for the links, I am reading a very interesting one about Taurus people Thank you. They are not unknown for me. For example, one of my best girl-friends is Taurus.
Oh, I just found his chart (not the exact one, of course). This is part of it:
Sun:Taurus
Moon: Virgo
Venus:Gemini
Mars:Leo
Mercury:Taurus

Mine:
Sun: Aries
Moon: Saggitarius
Venus: Pisces
Mars:Aries
Mercury:Pisces
My ascendant is Pisces as well.

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Happy Dragon
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posted December 06, 2006 05:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Happy Dragon     Edit/Delete Message
~ Dreamy.b ~

hi .. just read what youv'e wrote ..
at the mo. i've got to take off ..
but .. my initial ithought was ..

take it slow 'n easy .. use your caution ..
get to suss whether the g/f 'blues' story is 100 percent genuine ..
if he is true to his sun .. he'll prob. be ultimately faithful to his lady .. to the end ..
although if things are realy realy bad at 'home' and he ~ really really ~ wants wants ~
.. then straying is no doubt a potential ..
depends what personal values he holds

anyhow re the office communications etc ..
venus in gem folk flit about in a sense .. between others ..
it doesn't mean nec. in the bedroom .. but they are normaly quite sociable
( prev. had long term gf. with gem venus )
other note: merc taur can take forever to think about serious stuff ..
but can also have rather a one trak mind in a sense

ps .. fer astro peeks .. birth data if poss. .. :-)

gotta go .. sooo ..

'later .. :-)
~ HD ~

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Happy Dragon
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posted December 06, 2006 05:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Happy Dragon     Edit/Delete Message
~ Dreamy.b ~

hah :-) silly moi .. just noticed your aries placements ..
yes .. fire certainly facinates earth ..
'n thats 'primitive' earth looking at 'primitive' fire ..
excuse .. but the fire connection put a smile on my face ..
(i'm taur btw .. that's why the empathetic grin of :-)

'later .. :-)
~ HD ~

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Dreamybecca
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posted December 07, 2006 04:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreamybecca     Edit/Delete Message
Yes, I am being cautious, but I cannot help feeling scared. I don't want to suffer again, or to be used. As I have mentionned before, he doesn't seem to be the player type, but I don't trust people easily anymore
According to what he told me, he cannot stand it anymore with his girlfriend because he thinks she doesn't care about him enough, that he seems he has realised she is not a good person at all and she doesn't appreaciate what he does for her, etc.
He told me it was a difficult situation for him because they have been together for 4 years, he has "invested" all those years in her and this relationship, etc...
So I can understand he is not going to leave her suddenly. So I am the one to suffer, I guess...
My birthdate is the following: 16th April 1979, 5:30 am in Madrid, Spain
His birthday is 17th May 1978...but I don't know the exact time or the place. I guess he was born in Parma, Italy, because his family is from there... but I have no idea...
Thank you for your help

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Happy Dragon
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posted December 09, 2006 12:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Happy Dragon     Edit/Delete Message
~ dreamy ~
.. i gotta keep this short for now ..
as i may have to quit comp. use for a few days ..

but .. re: the way Your feeling ..
in astro terms your under the influence of a Saturn transit ..
nataly you have Urns and Lillith at a close 'square' aspect ..
transiting Saturn is influencing that particular aspect in your chart ..
transiting Saturn has now gone retrograde ..
which means in 'transiting' terms it's moving Back over ..
1 .. to conjoin your natal Lillith and 2 .. to square natal Urns ..
( prev. time was Sept.2006 when Sat was direct ..)
so those 'feelings' have been around a while i would have thought ..

they build up and ebb away with the planet's moving influence ..
so now it's 'building up' again by retro movement ..

i think you will find many folks having to deal with t.Sat going retrograde ..
.. that influence should be gone from your chart after .. March 2007 ..
.. 'cause it goes 'direct' in april ..

: Saturn Dates :
.. 6th Dec 2006 .. .. turned retro at 25.04 Leo
.. 20th April 2007 .. .. turns direct at 18.09 Leo

.. i've not looked at mr.t's chart yet btw ..
u could post them (the charts) in the astro forum 'n see what comes back :-)
.. maybe dig up whatever info u can re the 'fire' ~ 'earth' relationship in astro. terms ..
.. should help you understand a few " why's " ...

.. 'later
..~HD~..

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Happy Dragon
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posted December 15, 2006 10:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Happy Dragon     Edit/Delete Message
Dreamy.B.

re: the taurean guy ..

for him right now .. he has his first Saturn return .. i.e. transiting Saturn conjunct natal Saturn
also t.Pluto is .. and has been for some time .. opposing his natal Venus ..

also at the moment t.Lillith is 1 .. squaring his natal Jupiter .. 2 .. conjoining his n.node

re his Saturn in Leo return .. due to Sat doing a 'direct .. retro .. direct dance ..
( october'06 .. december'06 by retro movement .. then july'07 .. are the sat.~conj~sat. peak months ) .. that transit is quite extended ..

if you research those three transits .. it will give you some idea what may be driving him at the moment .. transiting Sat often brings a life lesson .. in the form of an opportunity ..
feelings in the 'love' department will be deep and intense with that on-going Pluto opposite Venus transit ..
.. giving pluto a 10 deg orb .. then that transit has been on the up-build since begining 2004
no doubt t.Lillith is having her effect as well :-))) ...
Lillith transits last about a week ~ peak time ~ .. she does not go retrograde ..

(post edit ) .. just noticed .. transiting Chiron is squaring his natal Chiron .. and has been since may 2005 ..

how that is efecting his 'home' life and relationships is anybody's guess ..
be as much as i can tell you re his chart for now ..

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Happy Dragon
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posted December 15, 2006 11:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Happy Dragon     Edit/Delete Message
Dreamy.B.

re: the taurean guy's natal chart generally ..
a few aspects stand out ..

Saturn in Leo squares his Sun in Taurus ..

Uranus in Scorpio squares his Mars in Leo ..

(natal mars and saturn are 5 deg apart in leo)
those two aspects make up a virtual T-Square

transiting Saturn has been working over that t-square aprox since july '06

also nataly .. at close orb .. Pluto is square to Lillith ..
and cancerian jupiter is square his n.node in libra

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Dreamybecca
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posted December 16, 2006 10:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreamybecca     Edit/Delete Message
Hello Happy Dragon,
Thank you so much for all your help and the time you took in order to reply my posts. I haven't been able to read your comments until today. Unfortunately, I don't really have much idea about astrology, only few basic things, so it seems I will have to carry out a great investigation,hahaha
Could you give me a brief explanation of each transit, etc?
By the way, I have found out he was born in Madrid as well as I was!! But I have no idea about the exact time.
And I have also found out that another reason why he cannot leave her girlfriend quickly is that he really appreciates and loves her family, and he seems to want to do the proper thing, he doesn't want to hurt them, he wants to keep being in contact with them, but it seems that if he leaves her, she is going to make things very complicated for him and to let him be in contact with her family.
Besides, according to what he told me last week, it seems he kind of likes her gf's cousin!
Anyway, he is so kind with me...I have no words. While we are at the office, besides working, we chat all the time, he is always the first to say hi, he shares knowledge, personal things with me, etc...I know he is very sociable and so on, but he makes me feel special...and I cannot help liking him!
He is nice, somehow serious, polite, gentle, hard-working... and very intelligent!!!! and I am sure that behind that reserved appearance, you can find a very sweet and loving person.
According to his natal chart, do you think he is too "innocent"? What I mean is that if he trust people too much...
At work, in general so far some people (me included) adore him, because he is very hardworking and he is always ready to help people, but yesterday, to my surprise, I heard some workmates somehow critizising him, and I found it shocking, especially because one of the people was one of the guys he trusts the most. I was so shocked. I was about to start defending Mr. Taurus! but I ended up being quiet. I found it very unfair, I wanted to defend him. I have realised I start to have "protective" feeling towards him. I don't want people to hurt him.
Do you think we are meant to become very good friends? I hardly know him, but I cannot help caring about him a lot. Do you think it is mutual? I think so, but again, I feel quite scared and insecure about it.
Thank you very much for everything.

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Happy Dragon
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posted December 17, 2006 09:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Happy Dragon     Edit/Delete Message
Dreamy aries .. hi ..
am keeping this short-ish as i'm limited in comp. time ..
however re:

** Do you think we are meant to become very good friends? **
i don't think any human being could answer that with a yes or a no :-)))
regarding feelings of something being 'fated' .. this is just my personal view .. ( .. untill i know better :-) .. )
transits from the very outer planets can easily give the impression of something ' feeling' .. as if fate is at work ..
as can certain synastry aspects .. .. as far as the transits are concerned .. i just see it as a transit 'effect' to ones emotions that gives the 'impression' of 'fate' .. .. to take it to some very extreme i'm sure hitler , bin-laden , pol pot . stalin etc etc .. felt as if they were fated in some way .. and acted upon it ..

** I hardly know him, but I cannot help caring about him a lot. Do you think it is mutual? I think so ,**
well looking at the synastry ( inter-aspects between two charts ) its easy to see connections .. some very nice aspects to each others suns .. can see why you would get along with each other .. so it probably is mutual in that respect ..

** but again, I feel quite scared and insecure about it.**
well .. in a sense that's you looking at it thru the perspective of that saturn transit .. once that has passed .. the scary insecure feelings should pass as well .. for the most part ..

ok .. i just had another look at your chart with the transits .. seems i missed this one ..

transiting Chiron is squaring your natal Chiron ... so the scary insecure feelings can easily be a product of that transit as well ...
that one .. is effecting both charts as your natal Chirons are only 1.5 deg apart ..
good news is that chiron seems to speed up soon and move past it's current point and doesn't realy come back to hit on your respective natal Chiron placements ..
.. it has a bit of an odd cycle does Chiron .. it can hang about a position for months on end .. ( actually its been near its current position for the past 18 month aprox. .. ) then zip off in a burst of speed .. it must have a very eliptical orbit ...

anhowz .. both Chiron and Saturn .. by harsh (or otherwise) transit .. hit everyone at somestage .. if one makes it to 28 then one will experience all the Saturn transit aspects to ones chart ( as it has a 28 yrs cycle ) .. and Chiron has a 51 year cycle .. .. both Saturn and Chiron transits .. i guess you could say they are part of the growing up process ..
i can't exactly tell you about the lillith uranian connection in your chart .. i.e. what transiting Saturn is working on ..

i would suggest doing some research about what Chiron is in the natal chart .. ( just try 'googling' 'n see what comes up in a search) .. and how a Chiron transit might feel .. i.e search for interps to a chiron transit .. .. astro.com has a few articles on that .. ... come to think of it .. just googling 'chiron' should bring up a fair few links to sort thru ..

so *Saturn and *Chiron .. .. effecting both your charts .. research .. it will help you two as friends to understand what you both may be going thru .. .. .. also remember he has the Saturn Return by transit .. so google that as well .. .. and again remember .. anyone who lives to a certain age will have to deal with those two transiting planets .. .. like it or not :-)))

.. yer way ahead of me btw .. i didn't have a clue about Chiron .. nataly or by transit .. until i had the Chiron return .. i.e when it's gone one full cycle around the zodiac wheel .. it didn't feel too good at the time :-)) ... ... and observing the relationship posts around LL .. well chiron sure seems to play a big part in relationship department .. in fact i would go as far to say that chiron transits could 'feel' worse on an emotional level .. i.e more so than saturn transits
and .. Lillith seems to play a major role as well .. in the sexual-romance attraction department .. .. and also it relationship 'fall-outs' .. and 'fall-ins' .. :-)) .. .. Lillith .. to me in anycase .. seems to have both a 'cheeky' and 'angry' side ..

re .. ** Unfortunately, I don't really have much idea about astrology, only few basic things, **
ok .. just my view again .. but .. keep an eye on your transits via astro.com .. and Observe ..
e.g. if you feel a cetain feeling welling up .. just check what transit you may have for that day .. or the upcoming days ..
it's the short transits that will show up ( e.g. those of mars .. merc .. venus ) .. mainly that is what showed me that astrology actualy works .. .. i noticed that certain Mars transits had me feeling somewhat tempermental (~understatement~) .. basicly i would 'feel' something .. and Only then check the transits .. so there would be no 'pre-suggestion' possibility .. .. so over time i began to notice certain things thru looking at my own transits and those of friends and associates .. .. and you've got roughly a ten year head start on me ;-)) .. i.e. i didn't start looking in to it 'till i was about 37 .. before that .. all i knew about taurus is that they evidently like good food .. and one or two other good things :-)))

oh .. and .. btw .. i think linda goodman in one of her books .. explained how the 'following' sign has an innate understanding of the 'preceding' sign .. so taur. understands aries .. having already lived thru being an aries sun .. (theoretical 'incarnation' talk) ..
and .. .. gemini will understand taur .. cancer the geminis .. leo the cancerians .. etc etc .. (till u end up with aries and pisces)

btw: i've yet to look at either chart with birthtime .. but .. when i do .. if anything major is showing up .. e.g. transits to the moons and ascendant etc .. shall pop in a note ..

another btw: :-) .. .. the outer planet transits can also feel like a clock ticking .. in other words they tend to make one aware of one's age .. that in itself can feel a bit scary insecure etc .. methinks both transiting chiron and saturn can have that effect ..

( be as much as i can type for now .. )
'shall look in again ..

be well ..
~ HD ~

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Dreamybecca
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posted December 26, 2006 03:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreamybecca     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you Happy Dragon, I will check your info as soon as possible. This weeks have been quite hectic...
Today Mr.Taurus and I had the same shift, and we have left our workplace, he has come with me to the train station where I take the train to come back home...it is opposite direction to his normal way to come back home...I thought that was cute... He is lovely.
Thank you for everything, I will keep you informed about the whole thing!
Happy New year 2007!!! I am sure it will bring all of us nice surprises!!
Take care

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