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scorpluv
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posted February 02, 2007 02:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for scorpluv     Edit/Delete Message
Hey Guys,

For the past week me and my cappy have not been on the best of terms... Unfortunately I did nothing to provoke his nasty disposition... Honestly I am at a loss about what to do... He's in one of his really black, dark depressions that he doesn't want to talk, his dismissive and generally couldnt really care less about what's going on in my life... I'm at my wits end w/him... Almost 5 years of dealing with his crap and I'm exhausted... I can't handle being w/someone that is sooo cynical and brooding... I mean, I understand that everyone goes through their moments, but I just can't take it anymore... A part of me just thinks that we are growing apart... His unwillingness to talk just makes matters worse... I'm a Scorp and am no stranger to those dark moods but I've learned to not allow my moods to effect other people... I'm just at a loss of what to do anymore... Any advice? I'd really appreciate some feedback... My patience is running thin and I'm tired of being the peace maker...

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CrankyCap
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posted February 02, 2007 03:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CrankyCap     Edit/Delete Message
Hey Scorpluv,

I'm so sorry to hear that things aren't going so well with Mr. Cap. Honestly, after reading many of the posts on this forum dealing with Cap men...jeez...I don't know how anyone puts up with them! Makes me kind of glad to be of the female variety, with a lot of Leo/Sag in me to "lighten the load" a bit.

I know those moods though. They can be tough for a Cappy to pull themselves out of, but I've found that when I'm in a relationship, I RARELY shut out my significant other. I don't think my Saggie Mercury lets me brood for too long...I HAVE to communicate with people or I go crazy, and I hate unresolved issues.

Before I get into much more...I have a feeling that part of your restlessness in this relationship could be stemming from something else. I sent you an email a little while ago, and I think that could shed some light on the situation...but you're an intuitive girl, and you've probably already thought of this yourself...

Love to you

TTYL - CC

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scorpluv
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posted February 02, 2007 03:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for scorpluv     Edit/Delete Message
Hey CC... I don't believe I got that email... You mind shedding some light on this... I'm just exasberated... His damn Gemini Moon makes things worse... just don't understand anymore... Honestly, I truly believe he's just bored... Just a nagging feeling... How have u been holding up by the way? Feeling a little bit better about ur situation? How about your family, are things going ok there as well?

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CrankyCap
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posted February 02, 2007 03:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CrankyCap     Edit/Delete Message
Don't know why you don't get my emails sometimes...weird. I just tried to send it to you again, I had attached a great article to it for you to read.

Yeah, I was gonna say something about the Gemini moon too. I've found that that seems to add a moody and irritable nature to people...don't know why. That combined with the depressive Cap sun can make for a difficult and moody personality indeed.

The gist of my email, and the article that I sent to you have to do with the Saturn return. I know you've mentioned it to me several times, and I think you've told me that you already noticed it creeping up...but OMG, I cannot BEGIN to tell how how strong and powerful it is almost from the second you hit your 28th birthday. So, I was thinking that any restlessness you feel with the Cap, your job, or your home life...is probably only going to grow and get stronger as you approach Nov. 2nd.

You may already be starting to re-evaluate everything in your life that has been routine and comfortable for so long...including Mr. Cap.

However, as far as relationship advice goes...you know I'm probably not the best person to ask! I think I'm the Queen of Dysfunctional Relationships! LOL...

Still, I wish you the best. Once he's willing to talk, I'd sit him down and the two of you can take a long look at your relationship, your goals, and where you want it to go. I know you're trying to communicate, and that shows right there who is the more mature person in this relationship...perhaps it is time to find someone who gives you the appreciation you deserve - ALL THE TIME.

Keep me posted on what's going on, and let me know if you get that email...look forward to chatting with you about it.

- CC

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CapGirl
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posted February 02, 2007 04:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CapGirl     Edit/Delete Message
SL~~ I don't know if I have still have your email address, or if I can figure out which is you and which is CC. But anyway, I have a Yahoo group (private) of about 6 women who are dating Cap. men and have been dealing with them for longterm like you (i.e. 2-5 years). We post and chat about these very issues you're dealing with. If you want me to send you an invite to the group- email me at bebewrig@yahoo.com.

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Sweet Stars
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posted February 03, 2007 06:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sweet Stars     Edit/Delete Message
That's why I don't like dating Cappies. They withdraw for months then expect you to actually wait. It's so annoying. maybe someone else can deal with it but I sure as hell can't. Unemotional people turn me off.


The worst part is when they have Aquarius and Sagittarius or Gemini in their chart.


Run for your life. Intense belongs with intense.


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phoenix1111
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posted February 03, 2007 06:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for phoenix1111     Edit/Delete Message
P&L

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babyfirefly
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posted February 04, 2007 07:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for babyfirefly     Edit/Delete Message
I hope it's ok for me to speak as a Capricorn female even though this is about the men. I do those dark retreats constantly and no one bothers with me when I'm like that because I'm just useless (my best friend a Cancer, has ALWAYS stuck with me though!)

I really feel the need to stress one thing:

"They withdraw for months then expect you to actually wait." -versus- "They test us, to see if we are worthy of their love."

I strongly disagree with the first statement! Just knowing from my own Cap nature, I don't think we ever expect you to "wait", or do anything, for us. Our withdrawals are for real, there's no pulling us out of them (not me at least), and they aren't created to test you but they do end up being a test for you. My point is that there is no changing this aspect of us, so your test is this: will you give up, will you tough it out and wait for the sun to shine again, or will you be one of the rare few who can manage to reach us during our dark days?

My advise would be try to really thoroughly understand whatever he is going through on an emotional level, but don't try to talk to him about it, because he probably won't. If any sharing is going to be done then it'll be him who will initiate it. If you can make him realize that you do understand him and love him, then he might open up.

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jupitersgirl
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posted February 04, 2007 08:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jupitersgirl     Edit/Delete Message
"or will you be one of the rare few who can manage to reach us during our dark days?"


Does anyone here know how to do that?

(I have a few ideas about that but I'm not sure if they would work...)

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CrankyCap
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posted February 04, 2007 01:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CrankyCap     Edit/Delete Message
Just thought I'd elaborate a bit on what BFF said. I'm actually in a Cappy state of depression myself at the moment. It's been a pretty bad one, the duration has been about a week so far. I'm slightly better today...although who knows what will happen tomorrow. They are VERY tough to get out of. I withdraw from everyone as well, although the reason I do it (don't know about other Cappies) is partly out of pride.

I know all too well that no one wants to sit and listen to a typical Cap rant about how bad their life is, and how nothing will ever get better, and "why me" and blah, blah, blah. No one wants to hear that. I know I wouldn't. I just feel that when I'm in these moods I'm no good for myself or anyone else, so I just slip away for a while. Basically, since I have nothing good to say, I'd rather say nothing at all. I've been avoiding my friends' phone calls for the last week, but last night my leo friend was able to reach me. I was snippy with her, and of course nothing she said was helping...I figured it would have been better had I not picked up the phone at all.

I think the pride thing may be stronger in me with all of my Leo placements. If I am not at my absolute "best" I don't want anyone to see me. I have to shine, and if I don't I want to disappear, and I do. I go into my cave with my tail between my legs and recharge for a while. I come back out ONLY when I feel better.

I don't think isolation and solitude frighten Caps. They need it like water. I'm probably worse in that regard having a Pisces moon. The need to escape is powerful. When I don't feel like this world is being kind to me, I go to the fantasy world in my mind where all is "sunshine and happiness." I tend to like it better there.

I agree with what BFF said, in that Caps are not testing you on purpose. However, it DOES end up being just that. If you can stick it out with us, and deal with our moods...we'll love you all the more. AND, if you can pull us out of them, even better!
I think Cap men may avoid their significant others more than the females. I don't think I've ever shut out a boyfriend when I was depressed. I HAVE shut them out for pi*sing me off, but that's another story.

As far as your question JG, I think Caps appreciate humor more than anything else. If someone can make me laugh, I fall in love with them. If someone can get me to laugh myself out of a bad mood??? I want to have their children. This is why I DO NOT do well in relationships with men who are also moody, and also prone to depressions. Two wrongs do not make a right. I've always loved the "class clown" type. Someone who is for the most part, always optimistic and upbeat. Idealistic, forward-thinking dreamers and clowns can always pull me out of my bad moods.

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cajunwolf77
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posted February 04, 2007 01:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cajunwolf77     Edit/Delete Message
Im a libra with capricorn moon and virgo venus, man is capricorn, moon in virgo, virgo in taurus he is the only man who actually makes me talk he just understands me and can bring me out of it especially if I doubt myself he makes me hold my head high right now I failed a test and going through feeling Im a failure thing but he makes me see the whole picture it will make me wizer and stronger. We both work very hard too think he really is meant to help me. Trust me on this capricorn men can actually be the most caring loyal romantic protective men ever maybe its his taurus venus but he really is an angel.

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jupitersgirl
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posted February 04, 2007 01:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jupitersgirl     Edit/Delete Message
CrankyCap thanks a lot!!! You gave me a very good idea...

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Sweet Stars
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posted February 04, 2007 10:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sweet Stars     Edit/Delete Message
I am surroundedddddd by Cappy women. They are much different from the men.


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CapGirl
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posted February 05, 2007 11:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CapGirl     Edit/Delete Message
SweetStars~ How did you know he expected you to wait? I've thought the same but was never quite sure what the heck was going on.

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scorpluv
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posted February 05, 2007 11:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for scorpluv     Edit/Delete Message
Hey girls... I love that this thread has grown on its own... I love to hear all of these theories and speculations as to the cause of these moods... I had the weekend to do alot of thinking and I must admit that much of his mood had to do w/him over thinking... We got to see eachother Friday and he looked lost in his own thoughts... He was in one of his obsessive thought stages and I know well enough to stay clear... For the many years I've been dating him, this isn't the first time and won't be the last in which he just withdraws... I guess this time it really affected me because I too have been a bit emotional... I will get through this, like I always do, but I guess I just wanted a better understanding of his mood... It seems to me as if this is just one of those stages in which he is comtemplating where his life is going and what's his purpose... I'll be there at the end of the tunnel, Lord only knows what can get him out of it... CC and BFF, I believe you guys really hit it on the nail!!! What insight!!! You made me feel a little better about the whole thing, I think I'm beginning to understand him a lil better...

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scorpluv
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posted February 05, 2007 11:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for scorpluv     Edit/Delete Message
By the way, Cappies never expect you to wait... They don't expect anything... If your around when they come out of it, then great... If you aren't, they just know that they can't expect anything from you either... Scorpio's are the same way... Just thought I should comment on that...

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