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moggym
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From: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
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posted April 13, 2007 12:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for moggym     Edit/Delete Message
YOU OWE ME NOTHING FOR GIVING THE LOVE THAT I GIVE, YOU OWE ME NOTHING............

HOW MANY OF US PRACTICE TRUE LOVE?

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Peri
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posted April 13, 2007 05:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message
I don't think it's 'true' love really, sounds like some kind of worship.

If I am "giving" that implies that the other person is "taking", right? Would it seem OK to me if they were taking it without owing me nothing i.e. for granted? I don't think so.

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proudarcher
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posted April 13, 2007 09:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for proudarcher     Edit/Delete Message
I believe in unconditional love, but is it always healthy. Ive been in situations where I was constantly giving and recieving nothing in return. It was only a matter of time before I exploded.
I didnt expect anything from the person but after years of giving, it takes a toll.
My idea of unconditional love, has conditions. lol

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Dew
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posted April 14, 2007 06:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dew     Edit/Delete Message
I do.
And I know that I am a rare breed.

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Dulce Luna
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posted April 14, 2007 08:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message
ProudArcher ,

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Ive been in situations where I was constantly giving and recieving nothing in return. It was only a matter of time before I exploded


I still think that in that situation it was unconditional love because you still gave regardless of how selfish the other person was. Its just that it wasn't an ideal situation where it was reciprocated.

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hippichick
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posted April 15, 2007 09:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message
moggym~~~

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CoralFrequency
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posted April 16, 2007 01:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CoralFrequency     Edit/Delete Message
Love of self.. Love of others..

If they are both equally strong and equally unconditional, then I'm all for it..

But if you compromise one for the other, it turns into something else entirely. Unconditional love for others with zero love for yourself turns into self-victimization - which has no connection to love.. It’s actually very selfish – not selfless.. and it affects those closest to you in a negative way.

On the other hand, unconditional love for yourself while having no love for others turns into narcissism or egoism which again has no connection to love.

The meaning of the word ‘unconditional’ in unconditional love, often gets distorted. You can only love another unconditionally if you love yourself unconditionally. There is no -true love- coming from a person who victimizes him/herself or accepts someone else’s abuse.. There are many names for this.. but unconditional love isn’t one of them.
Unless you do genuinely love yourself, it’s very unlikely that you’ll attract a person who genuinely suits you both spiritually and physically, who you are then able to genuinely love..

So if a person hurts you, hopefully you will unconditionally love yourself enough to distance yourself and move on.. but also unconditionally love them enough to forgive and wish them all the best.

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Highly_Inflammable
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posted April 16, 2007 07:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Highly_Inflammable     Edit/Delete Message
well since I am an ARCHER myself.. we are obsessed with the idea of "un conditional LOVE"..This concept has haunted me for years...

I want to love you like I love moon, sunshine, rain and breeze. I love them but I dont OWN them and never would I want to. and here I am, Love me the way I am and I will love you the way you are... but I promise to work for wht makes you happy. I dont need your energy, I generate it within. just be receptive.

and if you wish to move on, I wish you all the best with my most sincere feelings BUT, if you chose to stay with me, I'll be your friend, lover, partner all with no questions asked.

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Highly_Inflammable
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posted April 16, 2007 07:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Highly_Inflammable     Edit/Delete Message
It is something to do with "control issue" and "acceptance"....

Sags in general are afraid of being 'controlled' and wild horse in us is never happy when it is bridled. Let me go FREE, It will bind me to your side stronger than any chains.

and unless someone is a total "me first" kind or "control freak".. Love always finds a way to sustain...

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hippichick
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posted April 16, 2007 04:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message
I suppose...

One must feel it to deal it...

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lovely*
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posted April 17, 2007 01:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lovely*     Edit/Delete Message
Highly Inflamable,

I totally liked what you wrote here.

I lived with a sag, he was my lover and friend. I've never been with anyone like him. He used to encourage me to go travel explore the world, on my own, while still remaining together. It's something i realised a bit later. He had control over me, by letting go of it.

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Highly_Inflammable
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posted April 17, 2007 06:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Highly_Inflammable     Edit/Delete Message
it might sound obscure the only one who could be tht "unconditionally loving" person I found was a VIRGO....

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moggym
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posted April 17, 2007 01:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for moggym     Edit/Delete Message
What about Love given without any expectation of a return?

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lovely*
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posted April 18, 2007 02:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lovely*     Edit/Delete Message
<------virgo

newcomers to astology can get so much in knowing sag and vir can be well suited.

*smiles*

and walks off.

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Highly_Inflammable
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posted April 18, 2007 01:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Highly_Inflammable     Edit/Delete Message
Hey LOVELY


where are you going.. newcomers need a bit more time.. (smile) come have a cup of coffee with me

and we can discuss among otherthings,, sag and virgo and abt sag and pisces... both are supposedly bad for a sag,,but wht if the sag heart does not agree to listen to astro good matches atall and flutters on the mention of both virgo and pisces...

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lovely*
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posted April 19, 2007 01:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lovely*     Edit/Delete Message
haha. interesting you say this about pisces & virgo, because my ex sag married a gemini.

what are your moon and asc?

i will have a cup of coffee with you, tell me where to go. i'll be there!

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Highly_Inflammable
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posted April 19, 2007 06:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Highly_Inflammable     Edit/Delete Message
hmmm moon is in leo and rising is virgo...

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tell me a bit abt pisces and sag.. plz, i am very very interested..

and for the coffee,, I make great coffee, one of the few things I can proudly say I do good.. ... come and feel at home, play some music and just do anything but dont sit crosslegged in a prim fashion on the edge of seat and looking at me,, I might freakout and make a real bad coffee... if you love to feel at ease and being in your element with no pretentions then lovely my home and heart are always open to you.

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lovely*
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posted April 19, 2007 07:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lovely*     Edit/Delete Message
no i dont ever sit cross legged. they're usually spread
hahahah. how unvirginlike.

play some music. like can i bring my gheto blaster. I carry it on my shoulder and walk around like a hen, while you make the coffee.

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lovely*
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posted April 20, 2007 06:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lovely*     Edit/Delete Message
ok highly inflameable, i guess that wasn't an attractive scenario for you.

i was only teasing. sags are all high minded and all..

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Moon666Child
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posted April 21, 2007 03:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moon666Child     Edit/Delete Message
I am living it, and enjoying the benefits too! Not easy, but possible.

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Highly_Inflammable
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posted April 28, 2007 04:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Highly_Inflammable     Edit/Delete Message
lovely,,


so you like sitting unvirgin style... hmmmm, sends my mind to draw pictures that wont pass profanity filter here...

just kidding... yeah sag and virgo is one great match... we complement each other. I totally agree. I find women complaining of "withdrawing response" of virgos a lot... it always surprise me.. perhaps being a sag or wht, I dont think virgos go into those "silent backstepping phase"... they just take their time in making up their mind and which is earlier than any sag.. so it suits...

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