posted September 25, 2007 02:49 PM         

I'd be most interested on any views regarding the synastry Pluto trine Venus aspect, who do you feel is the 'obsessive' one - Pluto or Venus?

In addition, do you consider a Pluto trine Moon synastry connection to be of much importance? I've read so many conflicting views and not sure if it's more of a 'generational' aspect.

Any comments much appreciated!

posted September 25, 2007 04:34 PM         

The first was scared of me but we remained friends years later. We never got together.

The other one is my boyfriend of one year. He has it as a natal aspect also. He's a Scorpio and they are usually intense. I'm very intense usually so I guess we don't notice the bad aspects LOL

posted September 25, 2007 11:21 PM         

Pluto Opposition Moon
Pluto Conjunction Venus
Pluto Conjunction Pluto

His Pluto in Libra in my 4th house
My Pluto in Libra his 9th house

Our Composite Pluto in Libra in the 6th house

posted October 11, 2007 05:00 AM         

PLUTO-VENUS ASPECTS IN THE SYNASTRY CHART
Venus/Pluto in dynamic aspect can generate a sort of obsessive/compulsive partnership, one where the relationship creates situations and circumstances that compel us to dive into ourselves and understand just why we're so obsessive about this other person. Sometimes we'll even wonder just why we're so attracted to the other, and not even have a sound logical explanation to give ourselves, aside from a sort of feeling of entering the event horizon of a massive black hole. And that black hole is playing such beautiful music, or so it sounds through the power of Venus's attractive principle, that we just cant help but get sucked in. There's a bit of karma to all this, of course, and Venus/Pluto pairings often indicate the destination is personal transformation. Sometimes it only really makes sense in hindsight, after Pluto's power has subsided (and that's not quickly, either), or we've transformed enough that we need to move on.

There can be issues of trust, jealousy, and honesty that make themselves loud and clear at times. It becomes hard, and at times near dangerous, to attempt to hide anything from the other or ourselves regarding the relationship. They either pick up on the half-truths by their intuition or use investigative means (covert or overt) to get to the bottom of things. Just as Pluto deals with investigations and revealing all that is hidden, so does the Venus/Pluto relationship function. Depth is a keyword in all it's meanings to these relationships, from psychological right down to the perversion of that word.

The soft aspects are more favorable, but the hard aspects can be much more rewarding if they are applied in positive manners. These Venus/Pluto relationships have the potential for deep transformations to take place, and for either or both parties to overcome difficult relationship issues. Pluto's influence purifies by exposing all that is maligned in anything it touches. As the relationship can take on some darker undercurrents, the natives get a chance to face parts of themselves they may not otherwise face without a Plutonian dose of compulsion. This can create tensions and highlight personal lackings, which can have a negative impact, but if both parties are open and honestly communicate the experience, and are mutually supportive, this can actually act to deepen the bond between the two in a major manner. It all depends how the natives handle the energy, whether they let it remain an damed up undercurrent where it becomes corrosive or if they actively engage the process. If one party in the relationship doesn't feel comfortable enough with the other to open up these repressed psychological patterns, which are hard enough to face in oneself let alone share them with another, the basis forms for the more corrosive expression of this energy. This is often how Venus/Pluto relationships end; one faces a Plutonian challenge of purification which is withheld from the other, which leads to an array of blockages and a notable change in the energy exchange between the individuals. Both parties feel it, things start seeming "off" and the decline begins. In relationships exhibiting Venus/Pluto energy as a primary factor, one should always remember nomatter how dark and difficult facing something is, it's better to get it off your chest than to let it fester. The fixed emotional (water) nature of Pluto makes this a serious danger. Sometimes this means revealing to your partner some things about your inner self you may rather keep hidden, but hey, that's a huge theme of Pluto: facing your darkness. By bringing these things up to the surface, the process of purification can begin in a non-corrosive manner; as the light shines upon the darkness it is transcended and resolved. In the same manner, it is important for both parties in a strong Venus/Pluto bond to avoid passing any form of judgment on the other, even if the other was to reveal a particularly distasteful part of themselves. It's important to promote acceptance and dissolution of personal guilt; guilt is the enemy of successful transcendence. One should remember their own dark side before passing judgment on anyone else; we've all got one, and the thought that any of us are angels is but a fallacy... And a dangerous one at that!

Plain and simple, the sexual potential in Venus/Pluto relationships is high; it serves as an intensive means of bonding and interpersonal connection on a soul level. Sex is more than something physical under these influences. Sex on a physical level is more of the Mars/Pluto domain, where it may be better described by the common four letter expletive, although that is sometimes what people enjoy more. All depends on the natal makeup. Regardless, Venus/Pluto serves to focus the sex act on the passive attractive ("togetherness") principle of Venus rather than the active aggressive ("alpha male") principle of Mars. This can work as a positive or negative thing depending on the desires of the people involved... But either way sexual attraction runs strong.

Overall, this pairing can be very positive if handled constructively. Much to the disagreement of some, Venus and Pluto are actually pretty good friends. How couldn't a dirty guy like Pluto be magnetized to sensual Venus? And if Venus was all about some Mars, she'd go nuts at Pluto's stamina and sheer power, making the prowess of Mars seem petty. Besides, any lady who formed from a severed phallus is sure to have an x-rated side... a very happily accepted thing in Pluto's underworld. Some say Venus is too frail for Pluto, but I disagree. Bil Tierney in his book on Pluto (in the section describing Venus from a Plutonian perspective) used the words "fiesty" and "cocksure" to describe Venus based on her mythological history, and I think he's right on target. The concept of Venus being a snow white in glass slippers is a concoction of too many Disney animations and not enough reality. Venus may be impressionable, but she's not weak. Earth Venus is represented by the bull, an extremely strong creature, and her air side by the scales, representing the triumph of fair justice and the ultimate power of balance. Neither side is by any means weak.

posted October 12, 2007 09:11 AM         

Venus conjunct other person's Pluto

There is a strong pull between these two that can be fascinating, intensely attractive, and yet also disturbing at times. These two share a deep emotional tie. The Pluto person seems to have a window into the Venus person's soul at times, and can use this special connection for better or for worse. As the relationship progresses, the Pluto person may behave in a possessive manner towards the Venus person. This is one indication of a karmic tie. This pairing of planets is one of the stronger indications of intense sexual attraction. This is a passionate connection, but should be managed so that it doesn't turn into a love-hate union. Obsessive behavior is also a possibility. The Pluto person may demand more intimacy than the Venus person is willing or capable of giving. This relationship seems to change and evolve, and can be characterized by many dramas and emotional ups and downs. Times of frustration are followed by enlightenment and release, as the bond these two share is not a light or superficial one whatsoever.

Venus in hard aspect (square, opposition, semi-square, or sesquiquadrate) to other person's Pluto

Intense, and sometimes uncomfortable, attraction between these two can go either way fast. The expression "a fine line between love and hate" applies here. This connection is almost primal in nature. Sexual attraction is intense. These two will definitely need to deal with issues of possessiveness, jealousy, and volatile emotions. They arouse in one another some of their deepest insecurities, as there can be an intense fear of losing one another. This interchart aspect can sometimes be indicative of unrequited love or of a relationship that eventually breeds anger and even hatred. Power struggles and manipulation are quite possible. This is not a relationship to take lightly. If the relationship were to break up, it would be unlikely that the two would be able to remain "just friends", as the passion is hard to forget. Staying together may be a challenge as well! The Pluto person often seems to have the upper hand in this relationship, which can be unnerving and frustrating for the Venus person. Jealousies and manipulative behavior should be watched for and avoided as much as possible.

Venus in flowing aspect (sextile, trine) to other person's Pluto

This is a very supportive interchart aspect that enhances sexual attraction and expression and the overall sense of emotional fulfillment derived from a relationship. The tendency to be consumed by one another and by the relationship is here. There is little chance of this relationship growing routine or stale. Both parties seem to enjoy moving forward and growing through the relationship, so that each feels a sense of relief and enlightenment after a relationship challenge or argument.

Additional Interpretations:
*If this is the most exact aspect between your charts, your main relationship theme is to embrace empowerment and share power with others for the common good.

Easier aspects: You will have a strong and deep bond with each other that is unforgettable. Your passions and desires are blended together, and you can accomplish big feats by harnessing your focus to the strength of your desire. Others will notice your commitment and feel your magnetism. You can create a big impact for good in your environment and encourage others to express their full potential.

Challenging aspects: Your powerful urges and desires will sometimes lead to possessiveness, jealousies and desire to control others. The lesson to be learned from this aspect is that holding on too tightly will cause you to lose what you want most. Learn to relax your grip and trust that what belongs to you will stay with you willingly, no need to force it. Issues of scarce resources or feelings of not enough can create financial problems or anger. If you are struggling, get some help through classes or personal counseling to resolve and loosen negative habits.

posted October 15, 2007 06:19 AM         

We have the sextile in sinastry and before i red this post i thought it wasnt a very important aspect..

It is very true that we support one another very much and whenever we have an argument,after we resolve it,its a great sense of relief and also a feeling that whenever that happens,our relationship gets stronger and we become even more attached to each other.

posted October 16, 2007 01:06 AM         

i am the pluto person and he is the venus. i find i am obsessed with him all the time and have this constant sort of anxiety that maybe i am imagining things being so great between us, maybe he is not as amazing as he seems, maybe he will leave me, WHAT in the world is he thinking, does he really feel as strongly as i do, why does he have to be so perfect!?, etc. etc.

and when i sit back a bit and look at the energy pattern there i see that his venus is extremely attractive to me and my pluto, compulsive, neeeeding energy is not farmiliar with his love nature (square) and therefore is desperate to know it and understand it. that is the nature of the obsession, basically.

and the really wonderful thing is that in our case, he always soothes my worries and his venus shines back on my pluto and he is kind and responsive.

so i think really, fundamentally, any contact can easily be positive as long as the venus person remains grounded in lovingness and understands the compulsive behaviour for what it is, and as long as the pluto person is respectful and takes responsibility for his/her intensity, and the reasons for it.

so basically i do not think a challenging aspect is any 'worse' because it is simply about fascination and uncertainty at its heart (a certain alluring unfarmiliarity?), and that with focus and the right intentions, these two can really help one another out, no matter what kind of aspect.

posted September 09, 2008 12:34 PM         

"I'm giving up the ghost of love
And the shadows cast on devotion

She is the one that I adore
Queen of my silent suffocation

Break this bittersweet spell on me
Lost in the arms of destiny

[Bittersweet]
I won't give up
I'm possessed by her

I'm bearing a cross
She's turned to my curse

Break this bittersweet spell on me
Lost in the arms of destiny

Bittersweet
I want you
[Oh,I wanted you]
And I need you
[Oh,I needed you]

Break this bittersweet spell on me
Lost in the arms of destiny
Break this bittersweet spell on me
Lost in the arms of destiny

Bittersweet"

posted September 09, 2008 06:15 PM         

"The depth of love which you will be able to experience with one another will have a transformative, healing effect on both of you. Through your relationship, you'll realize the power of love to change lives and mend the broken places within you both. This certainly is part of the purpose of your being together. Even if other aspects of your relationship are difficult or frustrating, the intensity of your feelings for one another and your desire to be together will still be very strong. In fact, it would be very difficult indeed for you to let go of one another.

The urge to have children together is compelling too, whether or not you consciously desire this."