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Negreta
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posted October 08, 2007 11:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Negreta     Edit/Delete Message
Please read the topic, right underneath this one
Aries Female/Virgo Male
and help me I need your feedback on this !

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Negreta
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posted October 08, 2007 11:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Negreta     Edit/Delete Message
Read my last post in the topic aries female/ virgo male
thanks!

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Unmoved
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posted October 09, 2007 06:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message
I am a female, but I am a Virgo nonetheless. So, here's what I think he was saying to you.

NOTE: these are just speculations.

Firstly, notice the word "friend" being repeated a lot there. This is no coincidence, it is deliberate. I have used that very same tactic to make sure that a person knows where they stand with me "currently". He could change his mind but right now, he would like you to know that "friendship" is where it ends.

He does think you are attractive. It seems as if his appetite might be satisfied for the moment though.

He doesn't like to burn bridges, so he will be polite about everything. Basically, look at his actions. Also, your emails are overwhelming him. If he wants to see you often, he will. We Virgo's disappear, yes, but only because we choose to. A Virgo male, when letting you down easily, is so nice about it, it is almost condescending.

He knows that you wouldn't take it well if he said, "Honey, I don't really feel like seeing you right now, that was enough for me, but who knows what the future holds. Everything is possible. You are a nice girl though."

He hates pressure.

It is safe to say that you can read his email literally as it is. There was great chemistry between you two, he loved it, you're an awesome woman, and that's where he is right now. He doesn't sound as if he wants more, right now.

Later on, when/if he discovers more feelings for you, he won't wait to show you. He will address it promptly, so when he shows up, it will be because he wants to.

You might be coming on too strong for him, but he can handle it. Depending on his feelings, he might be really flattered or pressured. I think there is a degree of both, so, now... let him miss you, because the ball is in his court now.

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Unmoved
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posted October 09, 2007 06:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message
One more thing...

a 2 page email, and his reply is: "You're awesome"?

I think he was speechless, but felt to reply. Were it his world, he wouldn't have replied, but that is rude, and so he replied.

I dunno, I have feeling that he is not into you yet. He is eloquent, he can express his feelings, and you're awesome, to me says nothing. I feel he is brushing you off, but I am a female and males don't express themselves as much as we do.

But, as said, he is not acting like someone who feels the way you do. A Virgo, in my opinion is undemonstrative until he falls for you. When he is into you, he will say, and you will know.

But, I think my opinion is not too good because I am female.

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Negreta
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posted October 09, 2007 11:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Negreta     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Unmoved

Thank you for your answer. I think you're right about it was a nice and polite way to say that right now he is not ready for anything else than friendship.

The only thing I don't understand is that I only dated him once. We spent a week-end together, we went for a brunch, then went for a bike ride in the afternoon, then we spent the rest of the evening with his friends, and finally improvised a party at his place with me and one of his very close friend (male) and we had a great, great time (the three of us). The chemistry was high. And it was odd at the same time because it was really going on between the 3 of us. Then his friend left, I slept at his place, but we just kissed that's it. I know I shared all my feelings with you on this forum, but I never showed him that I was into him like that. I was enjoying the moment when I was with him and it's only afterwards that I realised I really really liked him. It's not like I pressured him. I have never did. You see what I mean. After that I didn't call and just waited a week or 2 and sent a msg once to invite him at a concert. he couldn't make it. Didn't show sign for 12 days after my invitation . That's when I sent him 1 email saying that I felt a certain distance but mainly trying to reassure him that I wasn't actually rushing him into anything and that I just wanted to have fun. Where is the pressure and how do you feel that I am coming on to strong on him ? I really never did. That is exactly why I sent him this email because he was acting like there was some sort of pressure and honestly I just stayed in my little corner waiting (from my point of view). The only thing that I did is that I showed him that I really enjoyed the date. Thank him, not hiding my satisfaction. Said that he was a real man and that he looked like a prince. (I didn't say all that at the same time but at various moments of the date) Was that showing too much ? Did he feel that he really made a strong impression on me. I felt that he really enjoyed the date too. And I don't think I was so obviously showing that I was impressed. Don't confuse what i am saying in this forum with what I showed him..

Also about that 2nd email of 2 pages. I can assure you that it was not a sentimental one. It was indeed a beautiful one but not in that sense. It was beautiful in the sense that it was a very structured, mature and intelligent mail that didn't necessarily talked about me or about how I felt or us or what i wanted from him. I just thanked him for being so honest with me. From there I talked about honesty and how I valued that. Then I talked about how I also valued freedom and how I totally understood his position. and that it was totally fine with me. From there I was inspired by that freedom topic, because that's very important to me, and went on about one of my favorite movie and described one of the character which was a sort of way to express that freedom and friendship were among my top values and blah blah to finally say that I would just be happy if I could hang out with him and his close friend because I really enjoyed being with the both of them, we were like a band of brothers and sister. I said that that was enough for me. I didn't need to be physical with him. And it is true. I really want to know him and be his friend first. Then my last sentence was " Live your
life as you want. I feel you. Be promiscuous if that
makes you happy. Be safe. Vanish and feel Safe.

I won't kiss you again..

Peace"

So that gives you a better idea. There was no pressure, just total understanding. It was not sentimental but I would say that it was deep about values that matter to me. So, in that sense that's why it showed a lot of my soul, but I didn't mean that it showed a lot of what I feel for him. You know what I mean.

So overwhelming my emails? I don't think so honestly. But different and special, yes. everything but superficial. Yes.

So that's when he said : "Your awesome". To me I agree, that means nothing. But maybe, considering the style of my email, he might have been speechless indeed and touched maybe because I really insisted on the fact, that spending quality time with him and his best friend would be enough for me. So, again. No pressure at all. I actually do not want anything to happen. I actually regret that we kissed.

I think your analysis of his email is quite acurate though. But I just wanted to give you more details about the context.

Thank you very much.

I think he is not into me. He just considers me as a nice girl, which is indeed almost condescending.


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Unmoved
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posted October 10, 2007 05:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message
I do understand better.

I see now... Thanks for clarifying. I totally get it now.

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Lucia23
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posted October 11, 2007 08:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message
Here's the thing about us fire sign girls and earth or water sign guys--these signs tend to idealize women, and therefore (unless they are very mature) they tend to want women they can't have.

I've had lots of earth and water sign guys in love with me--WHEN I HAD NO FEELINGS FOR THEM BACK. (Unlike fire and air signs, who see my big Leo heart as a great thing, like, oh, now we can start having fun! Earth and water men get suspicious of fire women. They don't understand that we love purely and that we pretty much are what we seem.)

Your spontaneous, fiery, straightforward, sexy, creative Aries way of letting this guy know honestly and easily how into him you are was what made him get all distant and cagey about the whole thing. It was too easy, sunny, sexy, nice and thrilling.

I had a dear friend who was a Virgo man. He loved me for years when I was in another relationship (and eventually, when we got older and my relationship was very committed and he was getting married, the way he was with me didn't seem right anymore and I decided not to see him anymore.) I got to know him very well, and the thing was, there were always beautiful, intelligent women very interested in him, and the only ones he would go for were the ones who WEREN'T interested in him back. He had some long-term girlfriends, and they were the ones who were initially cold and he had to pursue them.

My gut tells me that your Virgo thought you had all the qualities that would make him want to seriously get involved with a woman, but your interest in him made him suspicious.

A Sagittarius guy in the same situation would've just been thrilled! Although, he wouldn't have warned you that he's "promiscuous"--you just would've found out the hard way.

The Virgo might come back around if you get in touch with him--NO MORE THAN ONCE A MONTH--and ask him the following:
-to help you solve a work-related or artistic problem (these guys love a that sort of thing)
-to fix you up with his friend (he will believe you've truly moved on, which will allow him to put you back on a pedestal AND it's problem-solving, which they love AND it'll make him crazy with jealousy, which would be a mistake with a Scorp but can work on this kind of "promiscuous" male Virgo.)

Or, you might just want to move on to some nice Sagittarius.

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Negreta
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posted October 13, 2007 01:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Negreta     Edit/Delete Message
Lucia23

You're absolutely great. That totally makes sense and your advice does really help ! These little tricks that you gave me are so smart.. I am definitely gonna use that ! My plan is to not call at all, I actually don't even want to.
I agree with every thing you said. But I still deny the fact that I showed that I was so much into him. I am like : come on, man, it's our first date, I just told you, you looked like a prince.. and the day after, before leaving, I told him he was a real man. I just wanted to be nice. That doesn't mean I am at his feet ! Do you think that was enough to make him suspicious ?!

I would love to meet a sagitarius or a leo ! But for some strange reason, I have never met one of those in my entire life .... Just earth (Capricorn, Taurus) and a Libra. I dated a scorpio once. Oh my god, so true what you said, he literally threw me away just because I danced with someone in front of him! Waow.. That ******* was actually cheating on his girlfriend with me and was swearing to me he was just dating a girl and I shouldn't worry. Now they're married and have a baby. I actually met her and we loved each other. I never wanted to see him again after I met that girl who is now his wife. But he tried with me right before his wedding...!

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Negreta
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posted October 13, 2007 01:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Negreta     Edit/Delete Message
One more thing,
I loved it when you said :
"we love purely and [..] we pretty much are what we seem."
So true !!!!!!!!!!!
Don't understand these suspicious types, that kind of turns me off a little ... it's a good thing... But on the other hand, I am intrigued by this sign. That challenges me. I am a horrible fearless aries...Big sigh....

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