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SparklingSag
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posted October 09, 2007 04:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SparklingSag     Edit/Delete Message
Hey all,

I just wondered your impressions of saggie and cappie together. Either as friendship or romantic.

As a saggie i never thought I would connect with a cap. But I have to say I admire their ambition and dedication to their career. It kinda makes me wanna jump in with them and get involved. I admire their seeming control (whearas I seem to put my foot in it or get carried away with something.)

I find them a bit of an enigma, and that just makes me want to get to know them and tell each other our secrets (which I would trust him/her with.)

Those are just my thoughts on this combo.

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posted October 09, 2007 11:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jupitersgirl     Edit/Delete Message
I think sag and cap make a great couple or they can be very good friends if they share some other good synastry aspects. I completely agree with you about caps, they attract me the same way, it may be because of my cap descendant or venus. Communication is a big problem with caps in my opinion, they don't open up themselves very quicky, but for example I have mercury conjunct mercury with a cap and communication is wonderful between us when we have the chance to talk. Capricorns can be moody from to time and they become quiet for a while but you just have to be patient, it passes.

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posted October 09, 2007 01:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SparklingSag     Edit/Delete Message
Yes, patience, patience, patience.(Which I'm not very good at.) But I do have a cap asc/ cancer desc.

I really understood when linda goodman said that a saggie shouldnt start yelling or pushing a cappie in an argument. I found this out first hand in an heated argument with a cappie love interest where he was yelling at me for some guy trying to kiss me. I yelled back and got a bit hot headed when in all actuality i just wanted to hug and make up. But he went all cold on me and started not to listen and told me he didnt care about me. Soooo, i let him walk away and made up with him later when we were both calm.

So, is that a typical saggie/cappie type response to an argument?And also its a fire/earth combo. Ive always heard that fire and air is like magic and it takes work for earth and fire. But i guess the other placements matter too.

Am i on the right track?

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posted October 09, 2007 06:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
It probably depends on the age and maturity of the couple.

I'm a male Capricorn with a [female] Sag. I'm 34. She's 41.

She's the best friend I've ever had in a relationship. We get along really easily.

She also has a Capricorn Ascendant. I have a Gemini Ascendant, so I've got Sag on my DC ruling my 7th house. I've also got three planets in Sag including my Mercury which conjuncts her Sun. Talking is pretty easy between us, and always has been. At times I have been somewhat silent about how I feel, but she's never over-reacted about it.

Between us I'm the more "jolly" as she likes to put it. She comes off as the serious one with her Cap Ascendant, multiple t-squares, and near Grand Cross in mutable signs. I am the calm one, and she is the fluctuating one.

We're both pretty highly Mutable, which sometimes causes an issue when we need to come to a decision. We're very indecisive. We've been working on this for over a year now, and I think it's getting easier for both of us.

We don't have big fights. If either of us were to yell it would be her, but she still hasn't yet. Arguments slip away fast, and have never threatened our relationship.

It is weird with the Woman having the masculine Sun, and the man having the feminine Sun. I am more dressy, and into my clothes and looks than she is. She's more into sports and exercise.

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posted October 10, 2007 11:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SparklingSag     Edit/Delete Message
Hey,

thanks for your reply.

Interesting stuff.

I am 23 and my cappie guy friend is 22. I think he has a saggie or cappie moon. He has venus and libra in pisces whilst i have those in libra.Im not sure how those two signs would relate to one another.

Yes, i do come across as serious with my cappie asc. Does the help when in a friendship with a cappie sun or does it make no difference??

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posted October 10, 2007 12:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
Probably helps. Capricorns appreciate seriousness in others, because it indicates that the others will be sympathetic to their own seriousness.

That's another good thing about our relationship - I don't feel judged. I don't think we fully understand each other, but we're pretty intensely respectful of one another even when we don't understand where the other person is coming from.

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posted October 10, 2007 01:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SparklingSag     Edit/Delete Message
What is your venuses?

I think thats important for love aspects right??

Im a libra venus (and mars) so feel like i am searching for a prince all the time. But then i love my saggie independence.

Im not sure how to relate to my cappie's pisces venus. I dont feel so watery!

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posted October 10, 2007 02:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
My Venus is Sag, which is obviously perfect for our match. Hers is Aquarius, so she's looking for someone unique in a girl.

Her Mars is in Capricorn, so once again that bodes well for us. Mine is in Scorpio.

We have sextiling signs for both those planets. The only bad part is that her Venus squares my Mars...at least by sign.

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posted October 11, 2007 06:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SparklingSag     Edit/Delete Message
Hey,

good venus matches!! how would libra and pisces get on then?? But i think he has moon in sag which helps loads. But i have moon in leo. So kinda fiery match.

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posted October 11, 2007 12:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
Leo and Capricorn are somewhat competitive energies I think.

His Moon being in Sag should help immensely. It will give him a natural empathy for Sags.

Libra and Pisces Venuses?

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posted October 12, 2007 08:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SparklingSag     Edit/Delete Message
Hey,
yep, he has a pisces venus whilst I have a libra venus.

Yeah, leo versus saggie moon. Fiery combo but would keep a friendship/romance interesting I guess. But i have no idea how to relate to pisces signs. I dont have any water in my chart.

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posted October 12, 2007 02:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
His Pisces Venus signifies to a certain degree that he's romantically drawn to Pisces. As a Sag, you have Piscean good looks, but your looks aren't girly like a Pisces. He'll enjoy the way you act, though, because you are Mutable like Pisces plus he's got that Sag Moon, which gives him some insight into how you are.

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posted October 12, 2007 02:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SparklingSag     Edit/Delete Message
Also, as i have both mars and venus in libra im very attracted to a guy with good looks which my guy does have. He is very charming too, his hair reminds me of a leo mane, i wonder if he has leo in him, perhaps asc??

It's funny though, my ex bf was a libra sun/saggie moon and venus. We got on great but the chemistry wasnt that exciting, more friendly and comfortable. Whearas with the Cappie, because i cant read him very well...he is very enticing and when we do laugh and he lightens up (saggie moon) its like the rooms lit up :-)

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posted October 12, 2007 04:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
He could have 5th house placements making him Leonine as well.

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posted October 12, 2007 05:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SparklingSag     Edit/Delete Message
Hey,

his birthday is on 18th January, 1985 (St petersburg). How important are the houses? I don't know much about that at all.

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posted October 13, 2007 03:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
Here's a little info on houses: http://www.astrology.com/aboutastrology/interpreting/houses/index.html

They add another shade to the interpretation. For instance, my Capricorn Sun in the 8th house. Scorpio rules the 8th house. Therefore my Sun will have the Capricorn traits plus a certain Scorpionic bent. My Virgo Moon is in the 5th house, which is ruled by Leo. The 5th house deals with self-expression, creativity, performing arts, hobbies, photography, etc. I play a couple instruments. I'm in an Improvisational acting class. I love sitcoms. These are all related to my Moon being in the 5th.

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posted October 13, 2007 05:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SparklingSag     Edit/Delete Message
Hi,

Okay, i worked out his MC is libra whilst his IC is Aries. Whilst is descendent is Gemmini. Mine is Cancer. He has a lot of signs in his first house.

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posted October 13, 2007 06:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
A lot of Capricorn in his first house? I'm guessing that his ascendant is late Sagittarius. Is that correct? If so, that kind of helps (as you have a Cap Ascendant and he has a Sag Ascendant each of which ought to allow you to relate to one another).

One of the neat things about dating a sign that's right next to yours is that your composite (merged) charts will have it's Sun in familiar territory. This kind of chart is created by taking the midpoint of each of the two people's charts. For a Capricorn Sun and a Sag Sun, it's always going to stay in either Sag or Cap, which is nice because you relate to both signs pretty well.

Here's our composite:

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SparklingSag
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posted October 14, 2007 04:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SparklingSag     Edit/Delete Message
Hi AG,

Thanks for that info! That makes a lot of sense. I see you have a moon in leo too! how do you find it? Ive been told lots of times that I seem to think i am royalty....but this is usually when i am trying to hide my emotions and it comes across in that way.

I am understanding my friend's energy more now. There is a famillarity about him that im drawn too. The first time we met, we kissed so I guess thats a good sign of attraction!!

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posted October 14, 2007 07:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
The chart above is called a "Composite" chart. It's my girlfriend and my charts put together. (You can see two sets of birth information at the top of the chart) As you can see the Sun is in Sag. It's at exactly the middle point between her and my Suns. All of the planets are positioned exactly in the middle of where our individual planets lay. So this chart is supposed to indicate the personality of our relationship.

I don't have a Leo Moon. Apparently Leo is exactly between my girlfriend's Gemini Moon, and my Virgo Moon. As a couple we have a Leo Moon. I don't know if we act like royalty when we're together, since we're usually so casual when we're hanging out. I suppose we like to eat like we're royalty.

So, as I was saying, when you date a person of the sign next to yours (like Sag and Cap) the Sun of your Composite(/Relationship) Chart will always fall in the same sign as one of your Suns. For my girlfriend and I, our relationship's Sun is in Sag, which is cool because her Sun is in Sag as well, and I have three planets in Sag. It works all the way around... just like yours and his will.

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posted October 16, 2007 06:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SparklingSag     Edit/Delete Message
Hello AG,

Thanks again for all your tips and pointers!! I really appreciate it. Okay, i have a question, how does the composite chart differ from synastry? I realise I can go off and research this myself (which I will do now) but its nice to have an informed opinion too.

This Cappie is currently in Mexico for another 9 months. So it will be a while before I see him again. Would the composite or synastry chart indicate this? Or would that be a progressed chart??

Meanwhile, I would patiently wait for him to come back but I have been asked out on a date by a scorpio. He is very sweet and part of me thinks I should date in the meantime and learn and have some experiences. But i get all scared and unsure of myself.

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posted October 16, 2007 10:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
Composite Chart merges two charts into one using the midpoints to come up with the placements.

Synastry Charts keep the charts separate, and instead compares the two charts to one another. In a synastry chart, you have two wheels, one outside the other, so you can see where one person's planets fall in the other person's chart:

The Composite chart indicates the personality of the relationship.

The Synastry chart indicates how you relate to one another.

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posted October 16, 2007 10:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
If you want to date the Scorp, go for it. You never know what might happen.

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SparklingSag
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posted October 16, 2007 04:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SparklingSag     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks AG! thats cleared things up.

Well the Scorp is playing hot and cold...and that doesnt sit very well with. It's either straight down the line or not at all. Sounds harsh but I dont like mind games.

I'm gonna go off and check out how the composite looks with the Cappie, just cause im getting the hang of it a bit now and dont want to slow down the learning process :-)

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posted October 16, 2007 05:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SparklingSag     Edit/Delete Message
Okay, i have just tried to post the composite image for you. But it didnt seem to work!

So here is the word version from astro.com

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Composite Horoscope midpoint method

PLANETARY POSITIONSplanet sign degree
Sun Capricorn 031'50 in house 1
Moon Libra 1716'39 in house 10
Mercury Sagittarius 2807'53 end of house 12
Venus Capricorn 122'50 in house 1
Mars Sagittarius 2617'59 in house 12
Jupiter Capricorn 636'42 in house 1
Saturn Scorpio 1814'36 in house 11
Uranus Sagittarius 1237'47 in house 12
Neptune Capricorn 003'30 end of house 12
Pluto Scorpio 242'00 in house 10
True Node Gemini 547'59 in house 5
Planets at the end of a house are interpreted in the next house.

HOUSE POSITIONS (Placidus)Ascendant Capricorn 007'11
2nd House Capricorn 2852'23
3rd House Pisces 836'08
Imum Coeli Aries 1310'30
5th House Taurus 1241'35
6th House Gemini 830'01
Descendant Cancer 007'11
8th House Cancer 2852'23
9th House Virgo 836'08
Medium Coeli Libra 1310'30
11th House Scorpio 1241'35
12th House Sagittarius 830'01


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