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geminilibrarising
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posted November 11, 2007 05:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for geminilibrarising     Edit/Delete Message
I haven't posted about the Aqua in a while. I was growing quite wary of him and chose to sit back and observe his behaviour. We did have a tentative arrangement for him to come visit me (in the UK) during the holiday period (he's currently studying in the US). It was me who said "you could come visit me in London if you'd like." I presented the invitation very casually. He leapt at the idea and was very enthusiastic and emailed me repeatedly about it. Then about 3 weeks went by and I casually asked him whether he had an idea yet of whether he could make it or not. These are the 2 most recent emails I received from him (see below). I now think he is such an arrogant jerk and pompous, evasive and full of **** to boot! I feel rather ashamed that I was ever interested in an individual like this in the first place.

Here are the emails in question:

"Sorry me old China! Have been quite busy. Have still to hear (tomorrow) from my travel agent. It is getting close to Xmas time, so the chances are that I won't get (any!) ticket at all. Will let you know tomorrow morning the outcome. (I am bracing myself for the worst - i.e. having to spend money that I don't have for a new ticket). I should hate that. Hope you are fine and well and not to cross with me. You called me a couple of times when I was on the run, standing on the threshold and being late already to my work. Hope you'll understand I could not answer then and there. There is a time difference, you kow. Have to run again back to my books now. Keep it up."

"Hello dear, bad luck: no Old Blighty this time, I am afraid. Just got a ticket to the only available date 8 Dec straight home. Tis a pity indeed - I rather looked forward to meeting with you and for a joint trip to Scotland. Pity. Next time then. Cheer up, love. We'll meet soon anyway, when you come down to NYC. Sorry for raising false expectations, but it proved beyond my means, as Oscar Wilde used to say. Hope you are fine and well and did not take offence to my last remarks upon your dog. Keep it up, hugs."


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EighthMoon
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posted November 11, 2007 06:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EighthMoon     Edit/Delete Message
Hi GemLibra!

I have to admit that I haven't read any of your other posts that I can remember, but he sounds like an OK guy to me...

Rather witty, as a matter of fact, and very apologetic that he couldn't get together and mentions you coming soon to NY. How does this make him arrogant and pompous?

Just curious!
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AcousticGod
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posted November 11, 2007 09:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
I didn't see it either.

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hippichick
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posted November 12, 2007 07:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message
Yes they can be very arrogant, etc.! However, that is just them!!!

They do not live in the watery realm of emotion not the groundedness of earth or the firey passions of fire---they live in the mental realm, the place of thinking and LOGIC! Spok was surely an Aqua, if not he should be the poster man for this sun sign!!!

They do not while their days away wondering what YOU are doing and if YOU need to hear from them etc. They go about their days doing THEIR business, slaying their mental dragons.

If a woman is to be in relation with Aqua, then a woman must have a life of her own and love him for who he is, not who she thinks he should be!!!

They are FIXED and do not change easy. Change for them and only happens after a long time, when the percieved "change" that you think he needs to make has become natural to him, fixed.

Love em or leave em....I have said before and I will say again and again and again, if an individual is to be in relation with an Aqua, the individual had better have some or most preferably ALOT of Aqua in them, themselves!!!

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ghanima81
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posted November 12, 2007 10:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ghanima81     Edit/Delete Message
I agree wholeheartedly with hippychick. As an Aqua sun/mars/merc myself, I am probably as Aqua as it gets. Every relationship, or even potential relationship I have ever had that has not worked out was because of a lack of freedom. Even when the other person was initially attracted to my lack of 'clingyness' and independent spirit, they've never truly been able to understand what that means to an Aqua. We care, very deeply, for other people, but there are a lot of people we care about, and a lot of things (generally) going on in our lives. If his non-committal additude is not okay with you now, involving yourself further emotionally with him will be even worse for you. He will not change. Fixed, immovable Aquarius is also very rebellious. Wanting him to be different will only make him go the other way... and pull further away from you. The Libra in your chart will always be hurt by that... it's who you are.

Is he heavily air ridden in the rest of his chart? I'm sorry that I don't know this whole story, I've been away from LL for a while, but I felt compelled to write something to you. It is a subject very close to the surface of my life right now.

I wish for you that it could be different, but you have to know what you would be getting yourself into. I think he is very sincere in wishing he could meet up with you. Aquas don't really lie about things, our minds just wander so damn much sometimes, we forget what it is we want. We're like the ADD sign of the horoscope.

I hope this isn't coming off harsh, or that you are upset by me putting my two cents in.

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geminilibrarising
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posted November 12, 2007 06:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for geminilibrarising     Edit/Delete Message
"I wish for you that it could be different, but you have to know what you would be getting yourself into. I think he is very sincere in wishing he could meet up with you. Aquas don't really lie about things, our minds just wander so damn much sometimes, we forget what it is we want. We're like the ADD sign of the horoscope.

I hope this isn't coming off harsh, or that you are upset by me putting my two cents in."

I do not think you are being harsh. I just don't see him as being a mere typical Aqua anymore. I see him as evasive and shifty and unreliable and that's never a good look in a relationship.... I feel like an idiot for ever having been interested in him....

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geminilibrarising
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posted November 12, 2007 06:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for geminilibrarising     Edit/Delete Message
"If a woman is to be in relation with Aqua, then a woman must have a life of her own and love him for who he is, not who she thinks he should be!!!"

Oh, I most certainly have a life of my own and a very fulfilling career and social life. However, for me, being in a relationship means that I have somebody out there who thinks of me and isn't totally wrapped up in himself: someone who even tries to put me first. If he doesn't do that, then I might as well be single. Or he might as well just be a platonic pal.

I'm not the clingiest of people and I'm very free-spirited and career oriented - I have loads and loads of Air in my chart - loads of Gemini and some Aqua and Libra too.

I actually think it's disrespectful to the Aquas out there to call this individual a typical Aqua. This is a man with big intimacy issues and a shifty attitude who just happens to be an Aqua....

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annaf
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posted November 12, 2007 08:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for annaf     Edit/Delete Message
actually......he sounds sooooo much in his emails like the Aqua man I know who is heavily Gemini influenced (moon and mars in Gemini). I can relate to you...I would blow up at the tone of voice as well (and I have almost at every single emial I have ever received from teh Aqua I have just mentioned). I sounds non-committel, but I really think the others are right, that's just their style and doesnt say much about how much they care for you. It's just them, if that 'style' doesnt suit you, you are probably really better off without him. One example: I have shown certain emails from 'my' Aqua to other women and they thought he was witty, charming whatever, whereas I thought he sounded like a jerk (similarly as you) But I think it really might just point at a basic incompatibility of style, that isnt really anybodys fault. Also, (I'm not a native speaker myself so I sympathize) but his English really doesnt sound that great, it almost sounds like he is recycling certain 'cool' expressions he has heard around. So this might excacerbate the problem of him coming across as unfeeling jerk. If you are not a native speaker in a language it's very hard to come across as deep at any given situation, but particularly in emails...just my 2 cents

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EighthMoon
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posted November 12, 2007 08:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EighthMoon     Edit/Delete Message
GeminiLibra,

I agree with what Hippichick/AnnaF said:

"that's just their style and doesnt say much about how much they care for you. It's just them, if that 'style' doesnt suit you, you are probably really better off without him"

I think it's easy to misinterpret an Aqua's style. That easy going thing suits lots of people, but not others. I'm with ya...I need more than that too. (And I'm a Gem moon/Libra rising, so I am also very laid back...not clingy.)

I've had an Aqua friend (male) for years and spent SOOOO much time explaining his actions to his girlfriends. I just knew what made him tick, whereas they were emotionally involved and couldn't look at his actions without thinking it was something against them.

As for the one I dated...he would freak at emotional displays. They just aren't programmed that way. It doesn't make them jerks...it can feel like you're getting jerked around though, if you're used to a more sentimental/nurturting type of beau!

Probably better for you to go for a more "partnery" partner!

All the best to you!
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hippichick
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posted November 12, 2007 09:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message
Putting all astrology aside, I have learned in my 45 years of earth life than one can just not expect another to behave/think/feel as one him/herself behaves/thinks/feels..

We all are individuals, afterall.

And we all act in individual ways and if an individual is not acting to your liking, then why keep them around? Why keep the energy exchange going, why continue anything???

As much as I do NOT like Dr. Phil he said something quite profound once...something about what we do not like in other people is what we do not like in ourselves.

Accept him for who he is, make peace with him or be done with it....YOU will be much more at peace...in the end....

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geminilibrarising
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posted November 14, 2007 06:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for geminilibrarising     Edit/Delete Message
Here's where his planets are at:

Sun: Aqua
Moon: Gemini
Mercury: Pisces
Venus: Aquarius
Mars: Saggitarius
Jupiter: Capric
Ascendant: Capric

Here's mine IIRC:

Sun: Gemin
Moon: Gemini
Mercury: Gemini
Venus: Gemini
Mars: Aquarius
Jupiter: can't remember
Rising: Libra

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hippichick
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posted November 14, 2007 06:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message
I, by xperience, have always been very leary of Venus in Aqua ppl

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CoralFrequency
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posted November 15, 2007 12:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CoralFrequency     Edit/Delete Message
The only major difference I spotted in your charts - is his Mercury in Pisces.. You won't understand the way he thinks very well.. He is probably quite scatterbrained.

Otherwise, you seem similar astrologically.
I thought the way he put things was rude.. but I don't know.. maybe it's just the way he expresses himself - which makes it sound aloof.

:edit: your Asc signs would be pretty different as well. He'd come across as more conservative/less sociable.

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annaf
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posted November 15, 2007 03:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for annaf     Edit/Delete Message
LOL, didnt I mention that he sounds like 'my' Aqua?....well there are some distinct similarities in their charts. Both have a mix of aqua, gemini, cappy, pisces. Both have sun in aqua, moon in gemini. Mercury is different (mine has it in capricorn but in harsh aspect to neptune). Venus: yours in aquarius, mine has it capricorn but in 11th house, so aqua flavour. Yours has jupiter either conjunct ascendant or in 1st house. Mine has it in 1st house (maybe the pompous expression?) Both seem to have a harsh aspect between moon and mars. yours a moon-mars opposition, mine moon conjunct mars.

As I said I had really a deja vue feeling reading these two emails, they just sounded a lot like the aqua i know. Also, I think I mentioned this in one of your other posts where you talked about his farewell party...where he ignored you most of the evening, only became very attentive when you were about to leave..EXPERIENCED EXACTLY the same scenario at the last party...ignored me all evening, even though he had specificially asked me to come as he wanted to see me again. Only when I was about to leave he showered me with attention

I guess the big question is, does he only come across like a complete jerk in email, but face to face he is just wonderful and a completely different person? If so they really do seem to have a lot in common. Maybe, if you can, just cringe at these awful emails and consider these few months apart a bumpy road you have to ride out. But when you have him back you will have the real person back. However if you also have trouble with communication face to face then I would really stress as in my other post that your style of communicating is just way too different.

What houses are his planets in? sun in 2nd, moon in 6th etc. and so on?

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geminilibrarising
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posted November 16, 2007 10:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for geminilibrarising     Edit/Delete Message
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geminilibrarising
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posted November 16, 2007 10:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for geminilibrarising     Edit/Delete Message
"I guess the big question is, does he only come across like a complete jerk in email, but face to face he is just wonderful and a completely different person? If so they really do seem to have a lot in common. Maybe, if you can, just cringe at these awful emails and consider these few months apart a bumpy road you have to ride out. But when you have him back you will have the real person back. However if you also have trouble with communication face to face then I would really stress as in my other post that your style of communicating is just way too different."

Well he's lovely in person. His emails are awful though - although some of you seem to disagree!

When we talk on the phone it's better but he can never seem to talk for long and is always having to run back to the library (he's doing a PhD at an Ivy school). He's actually better on Instant Messenger.

The thing in his email that ****** me off was his "there is a time difference, you know." Erm... that affects me too!! Jeez! Here's me working a very stressful job AND spending 5 hours a day commuting AND still making time to communicate with him... That's what ****** me off. Now that I'm totally pulling away from him he's full of compliments and so on...

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posted November 16, 2007 12:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for annaf     Edit/Delete Message
Hah hah! The guy I was talking about is also doing a phd.....and is also quick on the phone (also quite impersonal)....

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LibraChickety
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posted November 28, 2007 05:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LibraChickety     Edit/Delete Message
They say you should "have your own life" when with an Aqua. Well, why is that the Aqua I've been spending time with tells me he is afraid I am TOO BUSY FOR HIM???

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Sun in Libra
Asc. in Sagittarius
Moon in Virgo
Mercury in Libra
Venus in Scorpio
Mars in Leo
Jupiter in Libra
Saturn in Libra
Uranus in Scorpio
Neptune in Sagittarius
Pluto in Libra
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I feel so naked ;)

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hippichick
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posted November 28, 2007 09:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message
projection of his issues onto you?

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LibraChickety
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posted November 28, 2007 11:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LibraChickety     Edit/Delete Message
Ah yes, that reverse psychology thing again

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Sun in Libra
Asc. in Sagittarius
Moon in Virgo
Mercury in Libra
Venus in Scorpio
Mars in Leo
Jupiter in Libra
Saturn in Libra
Uranus in Scorpio
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I feel so naked ;)

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RainbowDay
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posted December 13, 2007 01:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RainbowDay     Edit/Delete Message
I didn't catch the arrogance there either =/ I think I could have written that? I might just have written the words with a tad more care though. Not that I think there was much wrong with the email... It puzzles me greatly, I don't really get what you're saying.

Oh well then again I AM an aqua=/

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posted January 10, 2008 02:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MysticMelody     Edit/Delete Message
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