posted April 23, 2008 09:26 AM         

There are different types, of course:

1. Where people have physically met, have been together but due to circumstance, have been forced to be apart.

2. One where people have never physically met, but have interacted telephonically or via emails.

3. Where people have never interacted at all.

But are any of these real love, or genuine love? I can see the first being real, but the last two of the list seem unlikely... or am I being close-minded?

Can I love someone from a distance and have it be real love; or is just an obsession of some sort - a fantasy that I use as a way to escape reality?

posted April 23, 2008 12:24 PM         

It is the only "real" energy of The Universe.

Society lables love and tries to disect it into love for children, love for animals, love for parents, love for a friend, romantic love....

But love is love......

Same basic energy.

AND IF an individual is able to feel and express love for a fleeting individual, then more power to you!

Because then you are becoming more real....

posted April 23, 2008 12:33 PM         

I am very self-conscious about this it seems, and I would like to get over it.

posted April 23, 2008 03:26 PM         

1. His Neptune conjuncts my SN
2. His Neptune opposes my NN
3. His Neptune trines my Venus
4. His Neptune trines my P.Fort
5. His neptune sextiles my ASC
6. His Neptune sextiles my Jupiter.

His neptune resides in the 4th house

1. My Neptune conjuncts his Uranus
2. My Neptune conjuncts his Saturn
3. My Neptune sextiles his Moon

My Neptunes resides in the 2nd House

posted April 24, 2008 02:26 AM         

But I'm with you that for a romantic relationship, that spiritual love alone isn't enough. I want someone in the flesh. You and I both have a Taurus Dsc, I think that contributes a lot to being against long-distance relationships. Even being someone who highly values communication, I could sacrifice communication w/ my SO for some time. I couldn't sacrifice touch and feeling his presence. Occasionally there are several consecutive days where it almost feels like we're in a long-distance relationship b/c our schedules are so different that we don't see each other much. But I'm completely satisfied as long as we have time together in bed (I don't mean sex, I just mean time where we're physically near one another, although, you know, if one thing leads to another... ). Communication is so important to me, but I'd rather have less talking and more being near one another, if that choice is forced upon me.

posted April 24, 2008 08:09 AM         

i know a couple who met and fell in love online 10 years ago, one was in the US and one was in Africa. They got engaged after a few months of knowing each other "electronically" and even without physically getting together first. Then the woman met with the guy's family in the Philippines to make arrangements for the wedding. They saw each other in the flesh only a few months before they got married.

posted April 24, 2008 08:15 AM         

when doing the online dating thing i think there should be a time line to follow, like they should meet each other in person after a set number of months. otherwise, they would be investing "emotionally" too much on the relationship, which could turn out to be a dud in the end.

posted April 25, 2008 03:44 AM         

What's the sign and house placement of your Venus? Mine, like my Dsc, is in an earth sign, reinforcing my bias against ldr. Perhaps yours too is in earth.

I think people with airy Dsc and Venuses would be most open to ldr, since they connect primarily through verbal communication and that can be done from a distance.

I do believe that love comes in all forms and is just as real for the people involved whether they see one another regularly or not. But what really matters isn't whether true love is possible in a ldr, but whether it's possible for you. If your chart makes you really value physical contact, sharing the same physical space with your partner, then you may not be satisfied with a ldr. Doesn't mean one wouldn't be worth trying out though!

Oh and you're a Virgo too, so that reinforces your earthiness in relationships.

I'm not sure if we have the same signs on all our cusps, but with a Sco Asc you likely have a Pisces 5th house. I think water also wants physical closeness b/c the bonding is often w/o words. It's a spiritual closeness that is felt when you're near someone.

With that Sco Asc, you probably connect with eye contact and body language, reading the physical statements your partner makes. That makes an ldr harder.

So I can see why you're not naturally into ldr's, since they aren't conducive to expressing your earthy, watery side. But if your Venus is in air or you have a strong air influence elsewhere (like your Moon), you may find that you are comfortable in a ldr.

I know you wanted people to open you to an ldr, but from what I've seen you write, I think you are an open-minded person, and it's not a matter of being close-minded that makes you view ldr's the way you do, but instead perhaps an intuitive understanding that you wouldn't be satisfied in one.

Also, if you study what in your chart makes you value in person relationships as more real, you can then argue against those biases. You can say, for example, to your Taurus Dsc that you'll enjoy the stability of your relationship even if it's not a relationship that allows for regular contact. That you enjoy the more drawn out process of getting to know someone. You'd be able to frame the ldr in a way that it does satisfy what your chart wants in a love relationship.

posted April 25, 2008 03:50 AM         

My Venus is in Virgo, in the 11th House which is ruled by Leo.

I guess there are a lot of things that make me unable to grasp this concept of LDRs.

To add also...

I am very expressive physically (not necessarily sexually) with gestures, facial expressions, eye contact and body language. You're quite right. I would most likely feel unsatisfied in the end, even if initially I could handle it. I think also, the way I express love is in doing, not in saying... it is in my actions, not in the words I speak, even though I can express myself well.

There are certain gestures which require me to be there physically. For example, I wouldn't be able to have my guy sick when I am far away because naturally i would want to look after him. I also enjoy domestic stuff like cooking for people as a way to express myself, and I wouldn't be able to do that. I like taking walks together, doing activities together, and basically "doing" is a very big part in how I express my love for someone so I think I would be lost in a LDR.

Hmmmm... you have me thinking jane.

posted April 25, 2008 05:01 AM         

You sound a lot like me in relationships. Expressive physically, loves through actions, bonds through shared activities... I do love to talk and listen, but I feel the absence of all those other things strongly and miss them. I'm also horrible at keeping in touch regularly, which is a vital skill for LDR's. I often get in a quiet mood and then when I'm out of it, I'm off doing something else and no longer have time for a phone call or email.