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deuxantares
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posted April 27, 2008 01:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for deuxantares     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
anyone here who are into or knows of anyone who is into tantric sex? any feedback?

"Practitioners believe that tantric sex can significantly improve physical health, sexual passion, partner communication and feelings of inner peace and harmony. Couples may at the very least find it a refreshing change from their normal sex routine."

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posted April 27, 2008 01:41 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
as far as i know it involves delaying ejaculation...... met a guy once, but we were not romantically linked, he said he had practiced it, but didnt look or sound remotely exotic

I think sometimes it is involved with yoga also, but dont ask me further........

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posted April 27, 2008 01:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MysticMelody     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've read some about it in the past and then gave up a little on finding someone I would be able to have that kind of deep, intense connection. I've been thinking about it a lot more lately and I have found many sources on the net on the topic.

"ecstasy and sexual orgasm are valued as transformative powers"
~Anand

"Spirituality is not primarily about the altered states of consciousness. It is about embodiment and grounding, or as some theologians would put it, the incarnation of spirit. The challenge is not to go out of the body, but to realize that it is the temple of the sacred."
~George Feuerstein

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deuxantares
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posted April 27, 2008 02:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for deuxantares     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i am waiting for a "suitable" partner, too. LOL.

a book published in 2000 said that 90+ % of people surveyed said they want to form a happy, long-lasting union with just one person. and yet the divorce rate is very high.

do you think amazing sex between couples would help lower the separation/divorce rate?

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posted April 27, 2008 02:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MysticMelody     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Sexual magic begins with love. As the magical lover, you are in love with making love. Through love, you can melt and merge with your beloved, tuning in to each other, moving together, allowing your two energies to expand in waves of orgasmic delight. And as a lover you are willing to forgive any mistakes or faults willing to go beyond resentments toward you partner. When you know how to wipe the slate clean, you can begin anew each time you meet.

The best guarantee of magical success is to have a sense of trust in yourself and in your partner. Trust means that you are connected with you heart, your center of love.

When you are clear about your direction you are able to move through obstacles and difficulties. From example, you may be involved in a magical ritual, joined in sexual embrace with your partner, holding a magical vision, channeling orgasmic energy, and then suddenly you are overcome by self-doubts, worrying whether anything is happening.
Ordinarily, these are times when you may be tempted to give up, thinking "Oh well, we tried, but it's no good, lets call it a day..." In sexual magic, these are the moments in which to persevere, to whisper words of encouragement to each other, to stay committed to the practice, knowing that your perseverance is going to be rewarded."


^ From the book "The Art of Sexual Magic" by Margo Anand

And this book is just some pop-culture, watered down version of real tantra. I have found it difficult finding a man with a commitment to bonding with me on such a deep, deep level, the kind of level that would inspire such open trust. I would love to share a true level of trust that would allow such explorations. It is also something that takes time. If a couple isn't comfortable with spoken intimacy, they will never truly relax into deep unspoken intimacy. Although I believe it is possible to relax into a fantasy of intimacy, loving the ideal of the lover, and I think that is what many do... and it becomes difficult for them over time to maintain their illusion of their lover as it is battered by reality.

I want to accept someone on the deepest levels. And I want the same from my partner.
I've been wishing for that for years now. I have faith I will experience it some day.


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posted April 27, 2008 02:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MysticMelody     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think such a union is the true union that is spoken of in a marriage ceremony... when it is said that a Union by God is something nothing can tear apart. It takes both people wanting the Union and both asking the Divine to strengthen and protect their Union. These sort of Higher Intentions create the bonding and trust that remains through the difficult times. Once you experience that level of ecstasy and intermingling, there is no going back.

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posted April 28, 2008 06:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for deuxantares     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Goodluck to us. Hope we find our partners soon.

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venusdeindia
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posted April 29, 2008 03:31 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oh my

guys anyone heard of Stuart Sovatsky ? he's a shrink with kick ass Tantra knowledge,, as good as any Yogi i can find here in our mountains

heres an article from him, BTW his books are Delicious. my favorite is " Your Beautiful Lips" its a spiritual erotic book dedicated to women. Buy it like NOW, also his other book "Eros, Consciousness and Kundalini: Deepening Sensuality Through Tantric Celibacy and Spiritual Intimacy "


Intimacy, Growth,
and Tantra
by Stuart Sovatsky, Ph.D.

Tantric practices are indications of a certain direction for intimacy and growth. They are not just instructions to be enacted or another set of erotic conventions to be performed and perfected. They are a set of structured suggestions designed to reveal the nuances of sublimative passion. Mystery, subtlety, and discovery take precedence over formality and performance. In tantric sublimation, there are no missionary positions to adhere to or rebel against.
THE GREAT GESTURE

Sitting opposite each other, hold hands so that right palms face down and left palms face up. This position is based on the tantric principle that energy enters us through the left hand and is transmitted out through the right.

Next, focus your gaze upon each other at the midpoint between the eyebrows. Continue to gaze at each other, going through various phases of recognition, mood, and attention.

Allow your focus to soften so that your vision becomes momentarily blurred, pulsing with your heartbeat. Then, very slowly, refocus. Do this periodically. It will allow your eye muscles to relax and to make possible subtle shifts of perception. Your partner's face will very likely change in appearance, perhaps seeming older or younger, more radiant, or filled with the impressions of past emotion and attitudes. You might also see a sense of his essence, a kind of pervasive quality that permeates all his aspects and actions. In these pulsings, vision reveals a living world. This relaxed vision is an early stage of pratyahara. (Pratyahara is an early stage of meditation in which focus is gathered from its more ordinary scatterings through the senses and through "mind chatter".)

Try to find a balance point where you are equally aware of your own presence and the presence of your partner. As you come to hovering at this point of equal internal and external awareness, you will likely feel a kind of spacious opening occur, even a sense of timelessness. Your partner might appear profoundly unique to you in a curiously unsuspected way. As one husband said during his very first try, "I realized for the first time that my wife was giving me the love that I had always been looking for. I had just never really seen who she was before."

It becomes clear, as time passes, that you are each reflecting in your responsive countenance the image of beholding the other. You feel you have known each other for an indeterminate amount of time, perhaps forever. You experience yourselves as the same. You see a deepening beautification surface from each other's depths into the skin, eyes, and spirit, and it seems that this emerging beauty is the living response to your every willingness to see it. Much of what you see that moves you so is your partner's response to you, creating a kind of natural biofeedback that deepens intimacy. The beautification of each other feels to be endless and moving to ever more profound levels of assessment. Early dharana (near to complete unwavering concentration on an object), as the sense of an underlying unity, flutters.

Drink your partner in through your eyes and pores. Each time you lower your eyelids, feel the caressing of his essence with your eyelashes. You will see his eyes moisten ever so slightly, but these secretions transmute from apparent sadness into compassion, shy trepidation, and love. The varieties of tears are legion, revealing a whole expansive world of meanings and submeanings in every radiance. If vision is through tears, which refract the entering light with a prismatic effect, who is to decide whether the dancing rainbows we see are best described as miraculous wonderments or merely as a peripheral and insignificant scientific property of optics?

Shyness and blushing might also emerge, overcoming you with bluepink whispers of unbearable beauty. For shyness always heralds a greater sense of being seen and known, of seeing and feeling someone seeing and feeling us. We blush in catching another seeing us, for shyness is the innocence that consecrates each birth and revelation of the soul. Shyness is not a problem; it is a precarious mystery tenderly shared.

Perhaps a tear will streak down your cheek, and you realize how much there is to you and your partner, how responsively connected you are to each other. Other tears might follow, yet you feel only momentarily melancholic, then joyous, embarrassed, then wholly softened, for these are the living tears of the present "inner adult" of anahata chakra (heart center). If pains and angers from the past emerge, see them wavering, like desert mirages, and then dissolve into the inestimable passions of virya, leaving you in the everforgiving vividness of the evanescent present. (Virya is the quintessential distillate of sublimation, arising from virtuous activity, as noted by Sri Aurobindo.)

In the togetherness now, the experience called Sharing This emerges. Such "suchness" is the furthering of dharana (concentration), revealing the near-unbroken flow of mutually absorbed contact. Couples feel, "We are really in it together!"

Perhaps the longing in your genitals, abdomen, heart, and throat, which mounts, subsides, and shifts, now swells into your heart and throat. A subtle salivation, perhaps of a sweetened taste, hints its way into your mouth. In your unguarded state, it seeps out of the corners. You feel utterly innocent and uncontrolled, and your partner appears the same way, in the spell of bodily transformations.

An undisguised openness and steady receptivity begin to unfurl, as heavy and unruffled as a warm flow of sacred oils. A breathless moment. A ringing silence. You both slowly close your eyes. Darkness. One psyche or soul. An evergrowing brightness dawns.

Throughout your whole body an inward caress caresses selflessly; mystics have called it "the inward touch of the divine". You feel a still deeper silence. A wonder arises; it shapes itself and becomes a question: "Is this the soul of me or is it my partner's?" Interrogation reverts to sheer wonder. Dharana, silence, dhyana (the beginning of meditation proper). Billowing essence of boundaryless love here, there, everywhere. A sound, a smooth sound -- breathing; one bloodstream, one pulsebeat, one passageway in: mother-father birth; the in-between; and then, out. Sounds of breathing in and out.

Your sighs of intimacy have now become deeply appreciative. You feel a tingling pass between the palms of your held hands. It traces up your left arm, into your throat, and down into your heart, abdomen, genitals, and spinal base. You begin to experience the subtle body channels, energies, and chakras. You can feel the spontaneous movement of sublimative passion sending currents of pleasure throughout the internal musculature of your body, triggering the bandhas (muscular holdings or "locks" that keep subtle energies in a specific area of the body for the purpose of healing and transmutation) and various mudras (poses that affect kundalini, the "serpent coiled" energy at the root or muladhara chakra). You experience having a human body as a kind of fortuitous stroke of genius on Someone's part, while the buoyancy of desireless attraction to the world around you feels as light and responsive as consciousness itself.

Serenely still, your breathing suspends and suspends. Time withers, place evaporates. Kundalini-shakti (spiritual force) stirs. Heat grows stronger and stronger within muladhara, your throat, your heart, in ajna (brow chakra) between the eyes, in the midbrain area. Effortlessly, your tongue weaves back into your throat. A glow of electrical heat quivers, connecting the root of your tongue, throat, heart, spine, and perineum. A space of light opens. Time and more time, all is just time. The words pass, it's time, it's time.

You open your eyes slowly to a world of brilliance; the heavy-laden vineyards of the spirit have ripened.

You rest into each other's arms, feeling the heat and energy that is within and between you. Sitting up, you meditate quietly for an indeterminate time, then separate palms and smile, perhaps with some shyness


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posted April 29, 2008 04:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted April 29, 2008 07:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for deuxantares     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
venus, after reading your post all i can say is "Wow!" i need to get me some of that.

jane, is the experience the same for you and your SO? it has to be a two-way thing, right? i mean, it is impossible for only one of you to experience such bliss while the other is left behind.

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posted April 29, 2008 07:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I never leave him behind! Leave him my behind, yes, but never leave him behind.

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posted April 29, 2008 09:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for deuxantares     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
jane, you edited your post! LOL anyway, i understand.

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posted April 30, 2008 12:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh you saw it! lol, I thought better of leaving that. I frequently partake in editication. It's the battle between my open Sag Sun and discreet Scorpio Mercury. So in this case, Scorpio - 0; Sag - 1.

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posted April 30, 2008 01:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
do you think amazing sex between couples would help lower the separation/divorce rate?

I saw recently somewhere on tv that sex [frequency] amongst couples is way down compared to like 50 years ago.

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posted April 30, 2008 04:29 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"venus, after reading your post all i can say is "Wow!" i need to get me some of that"

hehehe

BTW Jane , i KNOW that Venus-pluto aspects lead to Tantric Sex, sans a teacher

but i have to say again read Stuart's books and you will not be the same.

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posted April 30, 2008 12:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MysticMelody     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you so much for the article Venus. Absolutely what I'm seeking.

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posted April 30, 2008 05:38 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can see the divorce rate being attributed more to couples rushing into marriage then sexual intimacy issues. My EX and I were having problems with sex before we got marrried and it just went downhill from there. I'll admit, I rushed into the marriage. I can see how experimenting with tantric sex would be a great way to better bond with your partner. Sounds like such a deep way of connecting...very cool.

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posted May 01, 2008 02:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venusdeindia -
"but i have to say again read Stuart's books and you will not be the same"

See, I'm a Sag and normally I'm enticed by an opportunity to grow. This however is the one area of my life that I would like to remain the exact same forever and ever and ever...I'm actually a little superstitious about jinxing things if I start trying too hard. But I'm sure I'll get over that fear eventually and when I do, I will follow your rec.

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posted May 01, 2008 01:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am.
I wrote about it a few times at UC.
Will try to find the links.

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