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indyBee
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posted May 09, 2008 09:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for indyBee     Edit/Delete Message
hello love leys...

i have a question...

would it be considered if someone has the mirror opposite of your SUN and ASC sign your twin flame?

like for example if my sun is AQUARIUS and asc is LEO would my twin flame be the opposite of that? i.e sun LEO, asc AQUA?

thanks

love love
indy

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darkdreamer
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posted May 09, 2008 10:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for darkdreamer     Edit/Delete Message
I don`t think so.

There are many people out there with that astrological combination, but you only have one Twin Flame.
But it surely would make for an interesting connection.

A Twin Flame would have very unique aspects to your chart.
A double whammy with ASC within 0° - 2°, would be a hint towards a possible Twin Flame-ship. (of course even that doesn`t GUARANTEE such a Twin-flame-connection).
Maybe you can even include the IC here.

Those connections are quite rare. `
I have scanned some celebrity couples (the major planets, Karma, Valentine, Amor, Juno, Eros and Psyche):


Antonio Banderas - Melanie Griffith:
His Mercury conjunct her IC -
Her Mercury squares his IC

Mercury is the ruler of his 7th and her 5th house, and therefore relevant in this particular case.

Brad Pitt - Angelina Jolie:

His mean Lilith trine her ASC
Her mean Lilith square his ASC

His Vertex conjunct her ASC
Her Vertex conjunct his ASC
- whatever will happen between them, they surely changed each others life!


Johnny Depp - Vanessa Paradis:
no dw with ASC or IC as far as I can see it


Paul McCartney - Linda Eastman:

His NN sextile her ASC
her NN conjunct his ASC (3°)

His Mercury conjunct her MC
Her Mercury trine his MC
- Mercury rules his 1st, 10th and 12th house, and it also rules her 8th house (8th and 12th house are highly karmic)


Paul Newman - Joanne Woodward

his Venus conjunct her ASC (3)
her Venus sextile his ASC
- Venus rules his IC and her 5th and 10th house

(there are some more dw`s with ASC, but they are wider orbed)


Richard Burton - Liz Taylor

his Moon square her ASC
her Moon trine his ASC (3)

- Moon rules his 5th and her 8th house


Some other very random "collection":

Antonio Banderas - Madonna:
nothing


Jude Law - Kate Winslet:
nothing

Leonardo di Caprio - Kate Winslet:
nothing


Charles - Camilla:
nothing

Ewan McGregor - Jude Law (they are friends after all):
E`s Jupiter conjunct J`s ASC (3)
J`s Jupiter trine E`s ASC (3) - a bit wide I guess
- Jupiter rules Jude`s ASC and Ewan`s IC

Orlando Bloom - Madonna (I`m sure they never have met, or have they?)
as expected - nothing

That little comparision shows that these double whammies with ASC or IC are indeed rare, and appear quite often in relationships, that have at least high soulmate-potential.
Also, those double whammies seem to involve planets, that rule the important relationship houses (1st, 4th, 5th, 7th, 8th) or MC.

DD

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ListensToTrees
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posted May 09, 2008 10:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
Its an interesting subject.

I think soul mate connections are far more common than actual twin soul ones.....

So its difficult to tell.

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indyBee
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posted May 10, 2008 10:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for indyBee     Edit/Delete Message
that's a whole bunch of interesting! information darkdreamer

hey i was wondering what about tom cruise and katie holmes....?

i am very curious

thanks!

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darkdreamer
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posted May 12, 2008 11:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for darkdreamer     Edit/Delete Message
Indy Bee,

I just realized that I share the same birthday with Katie Holmes (only different years).

WEll, I had a look and it seems that
his Sun trines her IC (3°)
her Sun conjuncts his IC (1°)


I think this does qualify as a DW, even though the orb is 3° in one case.

Now let`s see what houses are ruled by Sun in every chart.

Sun rules Katie`s Leo-ascendant, so this is definitely a very poignant placement for her; her ASC-ruler closely conjuncts his IC, a placement, that seems to happen quite often in relationships.
In his chart Sun rules the 12th house (equal houses) or is co-ruler of the 11th house; both are not the typical relationship houses.

Katie`s Sun falls into his 4th house (conjunct the cusp); his Sun falls into her 11th house.

Mmh, interesting.
The DW of Sun-IC shows that there is a close bond, a purpose to this relationship. But it seems that both people may not always agree on what exactly the purpose of that relationship is.
Especially Tom seems to have his very own agenda; Sun rules his 11th / 12th house and falls into Katie`s 11th house; those are all houses that deal with "society" in a broader sense; large groups, circle of friends (11th house). There could be also a spiritual or karmic purpose for him in this relationship (his 12th house).

But her ASC-ruler in his 4th house seems to imply that she has a deep influence on his home, his family; she lightens up (Sun) his home (4th house), whereas he, his social reputation, his ideals (11th house) and his spiritual ideas (12th house) influence her friendships and the way she deals with large groups; maybe she sees him more as a friend, someone who can strengthen her social reputation (11th house is the 2nd from 10th house; the area where you can stabilize - 2nd house-, your public image - 10th house),
whereas he sees her as mother (4th house) and someone who forms his home (4th house is a cardinal house after all), and maybe he wants to keep her there (Sun in 4th house can create a very strong emotional bond and feeling of belonging especially for the house-person).

DD

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indyBee
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posted May 12, 2008 02:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for indyBee     Edit/Delete Message
dear daydreamer,

thank you for the post i always felt that something is true about tom cruise and katie holmes love despite all of the negativity

do you have an email? i was wondering if i can ask you a question in private?

thank you

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darkdreamer
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posted May 14, 2008 05:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for darkdreamer     Edit/Delete Message
Sorry, I didn`t see your reply earlier.

My email is:
Sulpicia@yahoo.com

DD

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indyBee
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posted May 16, 2008 09:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for indyBee     Edit/Delete Message
thank you DD , i sent

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