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ListensToTrees
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posted September 04, 2008 06:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/relationshipdavidson26.0.htm

There is a separate horoscope for the two of you and it was discovered by Ronald C. Davison. This chart shows what happens to the relationship as a whole.

The Davison horoscope (sometimes called the Relationship horoscope) is set up for the midpoint between two birth dates, times, and places. The birth date midpoint is difficult to calculate by hand because a year isn’t even. It has 365 1/4 days. And then, of course, there is the matter of leap years. But don’t worry. There are several computer programs to do the math for you.

We can also calculate a Composite of the two individual horoscopes. Composite charts must always be referred to as charts because they are not true horoscopes. A composite is constructed by finding the midpoints between the two birth horoscopes. For instance, the midpoints between the two Suns, the two Moons, the two Mercurys, etc. The house cusps are found by calculating the composite Mid-Heaven and then using that to find the rest for a particular latitude. One thing I don’t like about composite charts is that the Ascendant you get by this method is usually different than the one you get by simply finding the midpoint of the Ascendants in the two birth charts. So which one do you use? And which latitude do you use when figuring out the house cusps? These things have never been determined with any accuracy. Many astrologers use both the Davison and Composite charts when giving a relationship reading. I have found the Davison horoscope to be more accurate overall.

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plutoprincess
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posted September 04, 2008 12:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for plutoprincess     Edit/Delete Message
Wow!!!
It's incredible!
I just checed on my parents' Davidson chart and tried the transits of their wedding day... The results :

Tr. Pallas precisely conjunct chart ASC
Tr. sun precisely conjunct chart Sun
Tr. Sun sextile chart vertex by 0.49 deg.
Tr. Eros precisely opposite chart Psyche
Tr. Eros precisely sextile chart Pluto

On the day of my birth :

Tr. Psyche precisely conjunct chart Moon
Tr. Moon conjunct chart Sun
Tr. Psyche sextile chart Mercury by 1.34 deg.


Listens to Trees you are absolutely right!! The Davidson chart can really help predicting the future of a couple !!! (an also showing it's special days!!!)

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plutoprincess
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posted September 04, 2008 12:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for plutoprincess     Edit/Delete Message
oops!
double posting!!!

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ListensToTrees
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posted September 04, 2008 02:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
Plutoprincess, can you use the Davidson chart for natal zodiacs? I looked on astrodienst but couldn't the option in the extended chart selection. Which website did you find it on?

Another really interesting chart is the draconic one. I went to a class a while ago and the teacher said that she had found really interesting correlations with it in families, appearing again and again.

She said that the natal chart gives us insight into our journey in this life, whereas the draconic chart gives an "x-ray view" into our soul's journey.

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posted September 04, 2008 02:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for darkdreamer     Edit/Delete Message
I`ve also looked at the Davision of my parents with transits on their wedding day:

Transit NN exactly conjunct Sun
Transit Uranus exactly conjunct IC
Transit Pluto conjunct Saturn (3°)
Transit Venus trine Sun, Venus, Pluto, Chiron and MC (yes, it was a marriage purely out of love )
Transit Jupiter trine Juno
Transit Saturn exactly conjunct Antivertex - they have been married for over 33 years now

(only the most important ones)


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posted September 04, 2008 02:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for darkdreamer     Edit/Delete Message
And now curious me had a look at the first meeting of my crush and me.

(I never noticed that before, but we met 2 days before my parents` wedding day, only 34 years later. lol)


Transit Karma exactly on DSC
Transit psyche exactly on MC (0°01)
Transit MOon exactly trine Vertex
Transit Jupiter opposing Moon
Transit Uranus trine Moon
Transit Neptune trine Sun
Transit Neptune conjunct Antivertex
Transit pluto opposite Sun
TRansit Pluto conjunct Eros
Transit NN exactly conjunct Antivertex
TRansit Juno exactly opposite Sun
Transit Eros conjunct Mercury
Transit Eros exactly trine Pluto
Transit Eros square Psyche
Transit Psyche exactly conjunct Juno
Transit Karma sextile Venus
Transit Karma sextile Mars
Transit Karma trine Uranus
Transit Karma square Pluto

Moon and Sun both rule the 7th house btw, and Moon is even placed in 7th house.

interesting.

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posted September 04, 2008 02:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for plutoprincess     Edit/Delete Message
Listens to Trees I used astrodienst ...

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darkdreamer
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posted September 04, 2008 02:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for darkdreamer     Edit/Delete Message
Yes, right under the composite charts you can click on DAvison charts.


So, which one have you found more accurate? Composite or Davison?

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posted September 04, 2008 09:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Snow_Dream     Edit/Delete Message
Hi, sorry to intrude upon your thread. Can anyone interpret our Davidson chart? I can't get anyone to look at our regular synastry so I thought I'd try this one.

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ListensToTrees
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posted September 04, 2008 10:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
Could someone help with this one?

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Diandra23
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posted September 05, 2008 05:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diandra23     Edit/Delete Message
How do you see the chart of Davidson plus the transits?i dont see that option on Astrodienst...

One question:

DD,

if we try to use the Draco for the Davidson or Composite,what would we get?

Maybe the relationship Chart of past life relationship between the two?And by comparing to it each natals,we could see how that past life is influencing each others behaviour in the relationship?

What do you think?

Of course,we only do this assuming we believe in Reincarnation ( which most of us do i think)

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etoile03
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posted September 05, 2008 01:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for etoile03     Edit/Delete Message
Oh I LOVE our Davison chart lol

We have a stellium of Sun, mercury, venus, mars and my name asteroid in 4th house

All of which are trine Juno, Karma and ASC

Karma is also conjunct psyche, eros and juno and psyche are conjunct my OH name asteroid

Vertex is conjunct pluto and trine moon

Transits to the day we met are

Tx Mars conj vertex
Tx Karma trine NN

mmm yum yum yum

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posted September 10, 2008 02:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
i find the davison chart confusing - for this reason: the person i did it with has moon conj my moon - in the chart the moon comes out almost directly opposite - does that make sense? several of the other placements (notably sun and NN) are identical to the composite, but this moon thing is weird - it also puts saturn conj moon, whereas we are both sat opp moon people!

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darkdreamer
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posted September 10, 2008 03:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for darkdreamer     Edit/Delete Message
Katatonic,

the reason for this is that the DAvison is a real chart unlike the composite, which is not a real chart.

The question is: does it make sense to say that the middle between two birthdays tell us something about the relationship between two people?

But actually that is the same question we could ask regarding the composite.
What does the midpoint of the same planets in different charts really say? Everyone agrees (or at least seems to) that the sign placements of midpoints don`t say anything at all, and still we interprete the composite planets in signs (and they are nothing but the middle between the longitude of two planets).

Does that make sense?


Diandra,

I guess the Draco composite would say something about the karma of a couple or the soulcontract of a relationship rather than only the two people involved.

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Love
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posted September 23, 2008 03:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Love     Edit/Delete Message
I've actually looked at the Draco composite before and I found some very compelling aspects:

Draco Comp (my) name asteroid conjunct my natal Vertex

DC (his) name asteroid conjunct his natal Vertex and Moon

DC Valentine conjunct his natal Descendant
DC Venus conjunct my natal Descendant
DC Venus conjunct his natal Merc and Neptune
DC Neptune conjunct my natal Valentine
DC Pluto conjunct his natal NN
DC Vertex/Osiris conjunct my natal Pluto/Karma
DC Isis conjunct his natal Sun and my NN
DC Mars conjunct his natal Jupiter
DC Moon conjunct my natal Uranus
DC Lust conjunct my natal Saturn
DC Lilith conjunct his natal Karma
DC Juno conjunct his natal Amor

*** All of these except for a couple are a 0 degree orb ***

There has to be something to it for there to be so many exact conjunctions, no? I'm not sure how to interpret it, but it feels significant.

Oh! And Diandra, if you want to make a composite or Davison chart with transits, just fill in the date and time for which you would like to see transits and simply choose one chart or the other. When you load the actual chart, just click on transits and the date you selected should pop up

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Diandra23
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posted September 23, 2008 08:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diandra23     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks!

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Diandra23
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posted September 23, 2008 08:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diandra23     Edit/Delete Message
so i put up another "person" but i list for example today time,place and date and then choose "davidson chart" - is it?

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posted October 10, 2008 10:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EighthMoon     Edit/Delete Message
Bumping...LTT...great info!

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