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LetsDance
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posted September 07, 2008 05:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LetsDance     Edit/Delete Message
Since someone posted that other mooners start a thread about their moon placement, I've started this one. I am moon in cancer. It's hard for me to explain how I love. I know I'm very sensitive and intuitive with my partner.

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Cancer moon here. I think it may be a bit hard for me to separate out my Cancer moon from my Scorpio sun to decide which governs my love style. But I guess my overriding quality is that I like to "mother" the object of my love. I will cook his favorite meals, buy him shoe stretch spray if his new shoes give him blisters, try to anticipate his every need. I can't help myself when I'm in love. I get somewhat obsessive about it. I don't do it to try to get in his good graces, it's not manipulative at all. I just am compelled to "take care of".

The problem is, I'm quite sensitive, so if the guy doesn't tread carefully and starts making nasty comments on a regular basis, my love has a way of *poof* disappearing. For example, my husband gets very cranky and has a way of saying "F. You" to me if we have a minor disagreement while he's in a cranky mood. Or when he's angry, he purposely calls me "Hilary" (his ex-wife's name) to intimate I'm just like her. I'm sure he doesn't realize it, but for me, that's like putting a ginsu knife through my love. I find it hard to recover after something like that. I never forget it.

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posted September 08, 2008 02:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LetsDance     Edit/Delete Message
Jugular, I am like that. I "mother" my love too. Girl, I get really mushy. Pet names, galore. My total focus is on them. I get really affectionate. I can't stop touching him or caressing him or hugging him, and my domestic side dominates.

It's fortunate my current BF loves this kind of loving. I've dated some guys that didn't know how to appreciate it.

Now as far as criticism, yes, I am like that. I'm sensitive to him because there's a level of intimacy that he has into my life. That said, if he abuses that for whatever reason, I'll get angry or hurt or insulted or violated, (feelings like that) and honestly, there's no particular way I deal with that. It depends on what effect it has me...what mood it puts me in. I don't know if I recover, either. I guess I just move on. Either with him or without him.

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posted September 13, 2008 05:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LetsDance     Edit/Delete Message
Hey! where's all the lunar crabs at?! Come on, guys!

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posted September 13, 2008 06:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for plutoprincess     Edit/Delete Message
I think you should try reposting this in astrology thread...
That's what I did...nobody answered here....

Ps : I think cancer mooners have a think with family stuff and fear of rejection
(I'm a scorp. moon)

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posted September 13, 2008 06:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LetsDance     Edit/Delete Message
thanks, princess, I did post on the astrology board but no responses yet.

Hmmmm, didn't think much on the fear of rejection. I do have a very close cancer friend. She is almost deathly afraid of rejection. But I think it's because her parents were very negative towards her. I don't fear rejection much, though. You never know if you can have something if you don't try to get it. I take chances/risks.

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posted September 14, 2008 02:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message
I'm a Cancer Moon.

I've been avoiding this topic for a while now because I didn't know what to say. But, here goes:

Whether I choose to love quietly or boastfully, I always love deeply and sincerely. I have never loved and found myself unsure whether or not I was in love. The intensity of my love is unchanging, but the ways in which I express my love are never the same, and one could call them tumultuous. I mean this literally, which means that I am unpredictable in the way I express my love or my desire.

I will sometimes show my love by protecting my object of my affections, usually by protecting their name, their honor and reputation. (I seldom fight to protect my love's "physical body" because I am a woman, and usually he is stronger than me.) I don't know how many people I have chastise because they spoke ill of the person I love (friend or lover). It literally stabs my heart when my beloved is wrongly accused, and my Cancer "protectiveness" always rushes in like an Amazonian warrior and fights for that which is "hers"... yes... my beloved is "mine" and my Cancer moon makes me a little possessive of him. I will never show or act possessive, but inside it is there.

It is of vital importance that my beloved is comfortable at all times. So, I will fuss. I am not sure whether this is from my Virgo Sun & Venus, just as I am not sure if the possessiveness is from my Moon or my Scorpio Asc, Mars, Eros & Jupiter. But I fuss over my beloved by making sure that he is on time, that he presents himself well to his colleagues by hosting parties for him if need be, or by reminding him of things he might have forgotten. I think that's the Virgo organizer though.

I am the type who asks questions such as:

"Have you eaten?"
"Are you warm?"
"Do you need anything?"
"Can I run you a bath?"
"Can you come closer so that I can fix your tie?"
"We are meeting so-and so for dinner tonight, you white shirt is clean and ready, okay?"
"What kind of pie would you like today? or... if I am tired "we are having some stuff from the deli..."

I don't cook aaaall the time. and I believe in house keepers so that I can concentrate on fussing over him rather than cleaning toilets and getting myself tired enough to cancel sex out of the relationship. And I work weird hours so...

okay, moving on...


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posted September 14, 2008 02:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message
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I am also the type to hold hands in public, would NEVER look at another man, literally never ever look at another man in my man's presence. I don't care if Orlando Bloom is walking by. Why? Because I would never allow for my beloved to feel insecure. You see, we Cancer Moons really identify with human emotions, so it is rare that we would do something hurtful to someone we love because we know how it feels.

As a Cancer moon, his happiness is my happiness... And his bad mood is mine too because I project a lot of people's emotions.

For me, if I am truly in love, my comfort and happiness usually come second, although I am learning to break that habit. This martyr syndrome of mine would even drive me to the point of losing my beloved for the sake of his happiness, if his happiness is not with me. Some mistake that to be a lack of will to fight for the ones we love, but it is not in my eyes. When we have a chance to fight, we will fight. Remember, with all said, Cancer is a Cardinal sign

Also, as a Cancer Moon, love usually hurts because we seldom find a person who can tread gently enough on our hearts. As a Cancer Moon, I need to be reassured that I am wanted or else I leave, licking my wounded heart on my own in some corner. I can not be in an unstable environment where I am not sure what I mean to my beloved because my emotions are already very unstable, therefore, to love freely, I need to be safe enough to let go. If that makes sense.

You will probably never see a Cancer Moon cry, believe it or not... but we crave and hope that someday we can be safe enough to cry in front of you. We need to trust that you will not turn around and use our vulnerabilities against us, and so... when we are in love and when we trust, you can see it by us showing our emotions to you, the good and bad ones. If we don't show our feelings to you, it probably means that we do not trust you yet.

That's why my acquaintances know me as cold, no nonsense independent woman etc., but my man will know me as that, as a softy, as childlike and... as a psycho b*tch when worried or on PMS.

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posted September 14, 2008 11:03 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Unmoved, you put it very eloquently, and I feel like we are emotional twins, now that you've said it. I can absolutely say that, as a Cancer moon woman, everything you said is true for me, as well. To the last detail. And I have no Virgo in me.

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posted September 15, 2008 12:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message
Jugular - I didn't read your response until just now and yes... I agree with all that you said too. 100% of it.

Also, people who date Cancer Moons must just forget when it comes to being fair. What I mean is that... just because I can tell you to F-off doesn't mean that you can do the same to me. I suppose that's what being treated like a King/Queen costs.

And yes... we seem unable to forget. And, if you do stomp on our hearts, our love does usually just disappear, and that's when people get baffled, when we go from 180 to 0 in a second.

yes... it happens but not out of thin air, but due to being hurt deeply.

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posted September 15, 2008 05:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LetsDance     Edit/Delete Message
Unmoved, thanks for posting. You are right, it is hard to express the way Cancer Moons love. I made my post brief because of that. You first post I can relate to. Especially the possessiveness, having a household staff or maid (because I am busy) to do the general stuff so I can concentrate on my love, AND the Questions.

However, your second post describes me unbelievably.

>> NEVER look at another man in his presence. Not even when I'm not with him, at least not to desire the guy.

>>His happiness is my happiness. I have let three of the men in life go because I felt if I wasn't what would make them happy, then they are free to go. I thought that was my Aquarius/Pisces influence...maybe not martyr-dom, because I want no pity, or lack of will (because they must be worthy for the fight). My "release" is more of a live and let live attitude. If they don't see what a great woman I am, then let them go. If they can find love and compatibility elsewhere, guess what, so can I.

>>NEVER see me cry in front of anyone, even if I am hurt. Wow. This is the stone-cold truth. I wish I could let it out sometimes. But it takes ALOT to get me to cry. I know crabs are supposed to be able to cry "on que" almost (no offense, crabs!), but I just can't. It really has to be something for me to let go like that. I think in my case, it's because I don't think the person can handle my meltdown. I'm usually viewed as the strong, responsible one. The one who will keep a cool head and charge forward. So if I start to breakdown, it appears that those I love or want to protect have no one to turn to. So mostly, I keep my tears to myself. Thank God He has a tearbottle in heaven for us. (Yes, He does. It's in the Bible.) He's about the only one who I KNOW can handle the kind of hurt that would make me cry without getting scared.

And last, and most profound...

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"Also, as a Cancer Moon, love usually hurts because we seldom find a person who can tread gently enough on our hearts. As a Cancer Moon, I need to be reassured that I am wanted or else I leave, licking my wounded heart on my own in some corner. I can not be in an unstable environment where I am not sure what I mean to my beloved because my emotions are already very unstable, therefore, to love freely, I need to be safe enough to let go. If that makes sense."

Thanks, Unmoved. I agree with Jugular, emotional "triplets" now.

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posted September 15, 2008 07:27 PM           Edit/Delete Message
DEEP DEEP DEEP DEEP!

I say there is no love like a lunar crab's love. It could take a while for us to trust you completely, but it's well worth the wait.

Honestly though, I think a lot of descriptions from other sites makes us sound sorta freakish. I'm not clingy at all, and cooking isn't my life. I think the only time when we are manipulative is the game playing, we can run hot and cold but we are only testing you. We want to be sure of you. There is really no such thing as a fling / superficial relationship to us; we're looking for a forever kind of love. We love genuinely, truly with all our heart and soul.

Like it's been said above, be careful how you treat us. Really. We won't forget it, and depending on the gravity of the situation it can leave a permanent scar on the relationship. Even a simple bad name calling can hurt us very deeply, we're very sensitive when it comes to these things...but like it's also been said, we're not little clingy whiners and we'll most likely hide our tears.

So in the end, we're pretty complex. I'm not saying that just to be cliche or sound cool, but really. We're very confusing especially in the first stages, we will be all sweet then cold the next, or when we get into our withdrawn phases which will leave you confused. We just sorta need time to shut out from the world. Really, I'm so proud of my cancer moon...we love with all we've got, everything has such depth to it...hard to explain, like my life is a movie emotional rollercoaster? hah. I love it. You'll learn to love us!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wip3JFYNDrQ

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posted September 17, 2008 12:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message
As a Cancer moon in the 7th house (Venus and Saturn are there too), I love TENACIOUSLY. Even when years have passed and I love someone new, I never forget my feelings for a childhood sweetheart.

I am very emotionally connected to my loved ones, and I'm sponge-like about emotions so I have to be careful.

I get hurt easily and deeply, and love totally.

I will cry in front of another person (maybe that's the Leo Sun and Mercury.) I don't recover easily. I can be very faithful. I really love to make my lover happy and be happy with him.

Starlamb, I agree that we love with all we've got, and it can be a roller coaster. I also love to hear that you're proud of your Cancer moon! I want to get there, but I feel like the Cancer parts of me hurt me too much. Sometimes I wish I was just a confident Leo.

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"Also, as a Cancer Moon, love usually hurts because we seldom find a person who can tread gently enough on our hearts. As a Cancer Moon, I need to be reassured that I am wanted or else I leave, licking my wounded heart on my own in some corner. I can not be in an unstable environment where I am not sure what I mean to my beloved because my emotions are already very unstable, therefore, to love freely, I need to be safe enough to let go. If that makes sense.

You will probably never see a Cancer Moon cry, believe it or not... but we crave and hope that someday we can be safe enough to cry in front of you. We need to trust that you will not turn around and use our vulnerabilities against us, and so... when we are in love and when we trust, you can see it by us showing our emotions to you, the good and bad ones. If we don't show our feelings to you, it probably means that we do not trust you yet. "

Unmoved,
I feel the same way.

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posted September 30, 2008 04:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EighthMoon     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Unmoved,

Can I e mail you? I need your insight on something if you don't mind!

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posted October 02, 2008 08:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message
Of course you can email me. I can't believe you had to ask. sorry for not responding sooner.

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posted October 03, 2008 05:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for EighthMoon     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks Unmoved! I don't have your e mail addy...

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posted October 03, 2008 06:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message
oh yeah... unmoved999@aim.com

to avoid errors, just go to the forum I moderate and click on my username "Unmoved".

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Another Cancer Moon hopping in to make emotional quadruplets (or quintuplets?) ...

I feel the same way about all of that. But my clingy, whiny side only comes out when I'm feeling insecure about the relationship. Like, when I'm not sure if the guy really loves me or cares about me. And if he pays as much attention to another girl as he does to me, I'm out of there.
When I give myself, I want to give my all, and if there's something holding me back, and I feel insecure, I know that I don't love him truly, and the whole relationship will probably be a huge emotional roller coaster for me, so I end it before it goes too far. That's only happened twice, though, and they were online relationships anyway, so it wasn't a big deal.
But I have been truly and deeply in love with someone, and still am.. I know it's true, perfect love because I feel absolutely no fear or pain. I only feel completely secure even when he's half way across the world; I feel like he's right around the corner all the time. I just want to spoil him, and give him whatever he wants... and with just one look from him, my heart melts and my spirit soars. I am not in a relationship with him, but I hope to be... it's just that he isn't anywhere near me, and I have no way of contacting him... except through telepathy, maybe, but I wouldn't want to intrude. Ha.
I've been feeling a lot of influence from Saturn in my life, so it's been easier for me to learn to control my emotions, even though I have a long way to go. I only know how to effectively hide them so far.. I have a lot of insecurity issues to deal with. But when I think of him.. the man I love, all my fears are just completely gone, and I feel like I can live up to my full potential in all areas. And my mind expands, and I feel confident that I can do absolutely anything. I can't settle for anything less that that kind of love. He's like a magnet to me. He's a Capricorn sun, and I'm a Cancer sun (along with my cancer moon), so I must be partly feeling the tug of opposition coming together. That sort of thing. But it's certainly much more than just that. I identify with him completely.. I feel like he IS me.
Anyhow, I could go on and on about this... it's literally changed my life. Love truly is powerful. It's been about 5 and a half years since I first fell in love with him, and since then there have been times when I have partially lost the vision, because he wasn't there in the physical, but I could never truly let it go. I hope that one day we will find each other... again ... and be together for the rest of our lives. Whether it will be smooth, I cannot say, but I'm ready to brave anything as long as he is in sight.

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posted October 05, 2008 06:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message
"I feel the same way about all of that. But my clingy, whiny side only comes out when I'm feeling insecure about the relationship. Like, when I'm not sure if the guy really loves me or cares about me."

Me too! But with a Moon-Saturn conjunction in Cancer in my 7th house and Venus, also in Cancer in the 7th, square Uranus, I get sooo turned off if a guy is clingy or too "romantic." It's hard for a guy to find the right balance and reassure me without smothering me.

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Some very beautiful writing on this thread... I'm glad I found my way here. I'm a Cancer moon/fifth house, Sag sun.

I love..... quietly, patiently, often from a distance. Fiercely, deeply, protectively, motherly, nitpicky, with open arms. Sometimes coldly, stoicly, from inside my crab shell, nastily, insecurely. I love by taking care of everything. I love like a child- naively, wanting to trust, afraid of being laughed at, afraid of being vulnerable. I love sadly. When someone I love is no longer in my life and I feel forgotten, it saddens me so deeply that I have to stop thinking about it. Sometimes I love expecting people to leave. Once someone is in my heart, I can go back to the feeling of them in an instant. Mostly, I love forever.

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Some very beautiful writing on this thread... I'm glad I found my way here. I'm a Cancer moon/fifth house, Sag sun.

I love..... quietly, patiently, often from a distance. Fiercely, deeply, protectively, motherly, nitpicky, with open arms. Sometimes coldly, stoicly, from inside my crab shell, nastily, insecurely. I love by taking care of everything. I love like a child- naively, wanting to trust, afraid of being laughed at, afraid of being vulnerable. I love sadly. When someone I love is no longer in my life and I feel forgotten, it saddens me so deeply that I have to stop thinking about it. Sometimes I love expecting people to leave. Once someone is in my heart, I can go back to the feeling of them in an instant. Mostly, I love forever.

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posted October 07, 2008 09:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LetsDance     Edit/Delete Message
Pumpkin Peace, I knew a Cap like that. Workaholic for a large corporation and used to go over seas (to work) alot on "top secret" on projects. He was armed because he usually went to military bases...

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posted October 07, 2008 09:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LetsDance     Edit/Delete Message
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It's hard for a guy to find the right balance and reassure me without smothering me.
That's interesting, Lucia, how do you manage that?

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One of my close friends, who is also an ex-girlfriend has a Cancer Moon, and she cries quite often and openly. She feels and loves deeply (also has Mars, Venus, and Mercury in Scorpio), and, I've noticed, tends to fall in love with a person's entire family, lol. She really likes the idea of being associated with that person's family or something. I think one of the appeals of being with me was that she thought my dad was just such a great dad, lol. He jokes with her every time she calls, usually at my expense (!), and she giggles like a little girl. Her last two serious boyfriends were brothers, and she definitely had a "thing" for the whole family. Kinda weird. She can be really tough, but she's always got some tremendous drama going on which doesnt change much from one week to the next. She's terrifically nostalgic, and she'll get all sentimental and tearful about some drive we took ten years ago and whatever song was on the radio when her brother graduated from High School. She has a big heart, she can be very territorial (if you arent a close friend or family member or some celebrity she identifies with then you can just choke on a Cheeze-it and die for all she cares), and she is probably the most charming person I have ever met -- but that may have more to do with her Libra Sun.

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