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confused gemini
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posted September 27, 2008 04:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for confused gemini     Edit/Delete Message
well yes i am attracted to ths woman magnet as they call them.....but but but..
heres the thing, one minute he has all eyes on me..next minute he says really rude things like 'only a mad man would fall for a crazy girl like u' or 'i rather die than ever propose to u' ...and next minute he says he wants to go out on a date wth me..later again hes rude and says ' when i like a girl she cant escape me..i always make sure i get my girl!i dont like you otherwise i would have made you my love by now, infact i dont even consider you as a girl that attracts me'
.....aaaaa i am going nutts..i mean ..excuse me!..i am the double minded gemini ..i am supossed to be confused!..not a scorpio...
whats going on in his mind?...i mean we both tease and flirt wth each other at work..most of the times he cracks these really nasty adult rated jokes and i calmly look him straight in the eye and dont respond while he giggles away..that makes him tease me more instead of stop!

he had asked me many times before what i think of him and i said he was younger than me so i dont even want to think about him.
then he wanted to know if he asked me out would i go wht him, i said no!..i mean i was on my gurad because i have had a past relationship with a scorpio and didnt want another one!.

today he has finally asked me out on a date set for next week..i want to know what am i getting myself into..i am a bit scared since he hasnt clearly said he likes me or anything like that..we both are attracted to eachother and can sense it..we enjoy eachothers company and comments and the slient killer gazez we give each other..infact this is the first man who has such a sharp gaze very similar to mine!..

o yea,when he asked me out i was honest enough to tell him if it is about getting physical then i am not his date! i am not the girl for him and he should look else where..but he insisted its just a date and that it!...pls help!....i show him that i am not intrested and stay calm when he is around but inside i am like going bonkers for him ,i simply cant resist his charm, yet i stay calm!!.....but is it time to panic yet???

he is :-
sun -scorpio
moon - cancer
mercury - scorpio
venus -scorpio
mars - aqua


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Jugular
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posted September 27, 2008 08:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jugular     Edit/Delete Message
Why panic? Unless he's a closeted psycho killer, what've you got to lose? You go out on a date, you see if he treats you nicely, you have some conversation, you find out whether you guys have enough in common, you treat it like any other date. You keep your clothes on (for as long as you can resist).

However... I will say... and I'm admittedly a bit biased, being a Scorp female with a Cancer mooon... you might have just hit the jackpot with this guy... you didn't post his chart so we don't know if he's got any awful aspects .... but with that caveat in mind - he's still got some awesome basics - sounds like the kind of guy who will not mess with your heart ... a Cancer moon will make him a nurturer and probably very mushy... my guess is the silly comments that ran hot and cold were just surface nonsense, the typical mental games the Scorps play in the beginning.

But if you could post a chart, the more seasoned astrologers on this board will be able to pick up on any scary aspects.

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confused gemini
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posted September 27, 2008 12:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for confused gemini     Edit/Delete Message
http://www.astro.com/tmpd/clu0fileKfz09T-u1222532206/astro_w2gw_01_ramz_hp.58635.669.g if

well thanks honey but the thing is i dont know the time of birth yet
hmmm i will find out soon.
i am just worried abit about my reputation..i mean we work at the same place and i dont want him going around and telling collegues that i went out wth him n stuff...u know wht i mean..i have a really clean rep at work.

maybe if he is just flirting..ths will hurt my feelings for sure...i dont want to be "just a passe"

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plutoprincess
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posted September 27, 2008 03:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for plutoprincess     Edit/Delete Message
Scorpio men can't stand rejection..Maybe that's why he's acting like that...

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taurean_scorpion
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posted September 27, 2008 03:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for taurean_scorpion     Edit/Delete Message
Well you never know...
They can have the most wonderful signs and turn out to be jerks...
So just be careful.

A Gemini/Scorpio/Pisces doesn't sound all that
harmful does it? But turns out he is...
I think with Scorpios, and for any other sign for that matter...even if the sign descriptions show that this person has depth or whatever, unless they're evolved the description is nothing.

Confused gemini,
go on this date, have dinner, talk, and have fun. Just don't go anywhere dark and private!

Taurus/Scorpio/Cancer

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Jugular
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posted September 27, 2008 05:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jugular     Edit/Delete Message
Well, right off, he has Mars square Pluto, using the 6:00 am birth time you posted (I guess that was arbitrary). That's not a good aspect to have from what I've read. He might be violent, might "crush" other people without giving it a thought. Also Mars in the 4th house. Oy. I have to run the chart with a different arbitrary birthtime and see what happens.

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Jugular
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posted September 27, 2008 06:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jugular     Edit/Delete Message
Uh, yeah, he's got that Mars square Pluto using other birth times later in the day. I'm not the expert, so I don't know if the astrological community feels someone could overcome this tendency with enough maturity.

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Jugular
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posted September 27, 2008 08:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jugular     Edit/Delete Message
And to address that other issue: you're really concerned about your reputation at work. I don't know, I can understand that intellectually but I can't relate to it, because I've dated two guys from different jobs, and one of them ended up my husband, so... my feeling is that sometimes when we have a soul contract with someone we have agreed to meet up wherever, and sometimes that place is work. I think it depends largely on how you handle the dating... if you're going to insist on getting to know the guy well before jumping into bed, then how could that really sully your reputation? On the other hand, if he's an immature pr_ck, then he could run off at the mouth and make things up about you, whether they're relevant or not. I think you probably have a sense about him... is he the kind of person who would disregard your feelings and "tell all"? If you feel that way, quit while you're ahead.

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confused gemini
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posted September 28, 2008 01:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for confused gemini     Edit/Delete Message
taurean_scorpion "Just don't go anywhere dark and private" ..lol that really made me laugh ... yea i am really scared of that bit..i mean he is a scorpio the hot blooded man..i really hope that doesnt happen ..but if it does i will surely panic and run away lol!!!..

Jugular,u mentioned Mars square Pluto isnt a good aspect,what does that tell us abt him?..i mean yes i can see that he is a flirt and kind of horny..lol..maybe that could lead to him being a player or unfaithful as a lover i guess..pls let me know more.
and i hav heard he is quite active on the dating scene and has women asking him out..well he is extremely good looking..i would give him a 10!!!..(i am kind of cautious when it comes to good looking men )

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confused gemini
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posted September 28, 2008 01:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for confused gemini     Edit/Delete Message
hmm abt the reputation thing..well its like people think i am hard to get and i have heard a few even betting that they could date me..its silly of them!..but honestly i dont date or flirt with anyone frm work because i am not attracted to any of them..this is the first guy i fell head over heels for..and i really have my fingers crossed..hope ths is not all a game or just another bet!...well i did make it very clear to him that i dont want him to be one of those guys placing bets or later bragging "i am the man" to his friend..and he swore he isnt like that!..God only knows whats in his mind..but yea before dating him i am gonna ask him for the last time why does he want to date me when he hasnt even said he likes me?..hmm..

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triplepisces
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posted September 28, 2008 06:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for triplepisces     Edit/Delete Message
I'm sorry if i didnt follow all of your posts but I agree with Jugular. When I read your first post in this read the only thing came to my mind is: this man is a strayed Scorpio.

To be able to look at the girl and say: I dont even want you haha! and treats you as if you are nothing more than a prey/goal/toy...He's ruthless, likes to crush and even boasts about it.

Yet ultimately, he's not wise. who talks about strategy before war? :|

If i were you, i would quit thinking about him too much. a normal friend would do...

remember that star signs and astrology isn't everything.

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Jugular
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posted September 28, 2008 08:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jugular     Edit/Delete Message

Mars Square Pluto: Your overly forceful nature often negates any careful planning, diplomacy and even love. You have an attitude that might makes right. You're often disagreeable and can be violent when angry, which causes chaos and can destroy personal relationships. If afflicted, you easily lose your temper. You can have either an exalted form of courage or a do-or-die attitude and your objectives may become obsessions. Obstacles always seem to block your path. They can be overcome, but often at the expense of others' feelings. You must always examine the motivation behind your actions. You have highly developed willpower, but it often lacks direction. If you're spiritually oriented, there's often conflict between will and desires. If you possess reason, diplomacy and discipline, you may have energy for great accomplishments. You're often attracted to violent situations and your death may be violent. You can be overly aggressive sexually and your sex life can dominate your creative instincts.



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Lucia23
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posted September 28, 2008 02:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message
Triplepisces has some great points.

This guy sounds like a serious mixed message Scorpio. I've gotten entangled (or not) with two of these guys over the past couple of years (I think because I was coming out of a longterm relationship and was very vulnerable--I had happy-ish relationships with Gems and Libras up till then!) Now, there are Scorp men who are kind and wonderful people--I'm friends with several, they rock. These mixed message guys, on the other hand, are just immature and insecure.

He keeps women on the leash--and thus keeps control--by building them up, then taking them down. Instead of just letting you know he likes you, he leaves you confused. And then you start to confuse your confusion with an obsession with that Scorpio.

Also, these guys pay close, careful attention to how to manipulate you. They look for what works. It's because they feel very very vulnerable inside and want to protect themselves. (The Cancer moon would heighten that.) A mature Scorp will test you at first to see if he can trust you, and once he knows he can, he'll be very loyal. An immature Scorp will play with, seduce and reject a lot of women to make himself feel safer.

Saying, "when i like a girl she cant escape me..i always make sure i get my girl!i dont like you otherwise i would have made you my love by now, infact i dont even consider you as a girl that attracts me'--well, that's not flirty! That's just mean! Imagine if I (a Leo) said the equivalent of that to some guy who was interested in me? You know he doesn't mean it--if he really weren't into you, he wouldn't say it--but it's a very immature, grade-school way of dealing with his interest.

You say you can't resist his charm, but that kind of stuff doesn't sound too charming. More likely, you can't resist all the manipulative hooks he's putting out.

If you can stay light and just enjoy his good looks/sexiness and not get too involved/obsessed, maybe things will go okay for you? (In my case, Leo Sun/Cancer Moon/Cap Rising, I take everything seriously and get hooked to a guy and just have to be careful.)

I guess my advice would be not to fall for his hooks and manipulations. If you want to try this, just stay very honest and true to yourself. I know with the most recent Scorp I got entangled with (the thing really isn't over...if you don't fall for their games, they come back again and again), it really works if I can just stay myself and stay honest. If he says something designed to hook/obsess me, I try not to bite anymore. I let him know I'm vulnerable. Also, I have started to notice when he's trying to use his weird sonar to draw me to him, and I'm less likely to confuse it with my own feelings. We've never hooked up. I know I'm attracted, but after the last Scorp, I'm going to tread carefully before doing anything that would end up making me feel awful...meanwhile, he has such a sweet side and is my loyal supporter in some important ways. We are getting to be closer friends. Much as he makes me feel like I want to rip my panties off and jump him, I'm just not going to be manipulated. If we ever get together because we like each other, that's pne thing, but if it's part of some weird game to make him feel more powerful, I'm really not interested.

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taurean_scorpion
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posted September 28, 2008 06:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for taurean_scorpion     Edit/Delete Message
you know, my mom and i both have natal mars square pluto and in our composite and we're fine.
we have disagreements now and then but if you learn to compromise then you should be fine.


'only a mad man would fall for a crazy girl like u' or 'i rather die than ever propose to u'

on second thought,
those comments ARE rude and immature and you can sense his insecurity...sry i should've said this before in my post.

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confused gemini
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posted September 29, 2008 02:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for confused gemini     Edit/Delete Message
"BREAKING NEWS"!!!

its an emergency so i am gonna be traveling in 2 days,hearing this he asked me out for lunch right away...so i went out with him..and .....and.....and...!!
he confessed that he is married and has a 1 year old child too!!!...he showed me their pics and said no one at work knows about this but i am telling you..!! what the %&*$#%!#^
and he had the nerve to say that he wished he had met me before his wife and that he is crazy in love with me!!!...i was shocked and told him..all ths time he was married and kept flirting with girls and dating them..even after knowing he has a kid!...wow! you are shameless! disgusting person..what will your wife think of all this?..he calmly replied she doesnt live with me so it doesnt make much of a difference...
well what can i say except that what a scorpio man this turned out to be!
thanks for warning me guyz and taurus and jugular yes now i know what that aspect you mentioned can do to a person!..ssheeeesh i really pity his wife.

however the end of story..i told him i cannot offer a married man anything more than friendship!..

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confused gemini
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posted September 29, 2008 02:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for confused gemini     Edit/Delete Message
and yea he said he loves his wife too and she is gonna some over and stay with him for 2 months!!..lol...loser ..he really doesnt know what he wants in life..i guess he wants all the women he can get to satisfy his sexual appetite..i say that because yes i can sense he is sexually attracted to me..would have felt really good to have a person be so attracted to you ..but ..i guess a married man is not what i ever wished for

i had a feeling ..too much scorpio in his chart ..that makes his appetite 2x stronger..!

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confused gemini
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posted September 29, 2008 03:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for confused gemini     Edit/Delete Message
Lucia23 thanks for ur advise..yes i have to be very firm with him..to him marriage,love, women are all games but to me love and marriage is too precious..i respect myself and i would never want to be called a home breaker!..
i just wonder how can some people be so selfish in a relationship..!!

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posted September 29, 2008 03:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for confused gemini     Edit/Delete Message
Jugular i have one request please,
this is a chart of my x , i want to know what are the bad aspects if any in this chart. http://www.astro.com/cgi/showgif.cgi?lang=e&gif=astro_w2gw_02_tny_hp.26129.9848.gif&res=63&va=&cid=lu0fileKfz09T-u1222532206

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posted September 29, 2008 03:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scorpionic Web     Edit/Delete Message
Simply, she must not have given him what he needed.

Very few Scorpio males who are given what they want will ever cheat. To be in a loveless relationship inherently promotes cheating.

If there is no love, who is to care?

Who has the right to care?

Scorpios may be seen as complicated, but we learn early in life that people don't understand us, so we tend to ask very little of other people.

It really isn't difficult to make a Scorpio feel wanted.

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confused gemini
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posted September 29, 2008 04:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for confused gemini     Edit/Delete Message
Scorpionic Web
i do understand what you are saying, i know when there is no love in our relationship we tend to look else were for it..i have been through the same too..but the thing is he is married..how can i think of getting involved..i honestly would love too..but then i know it would lead me nowhere!...

you are a scorpio you tell me whats going on in his mind and what should i do?..i have been available whenever he wanted to share his inner feelings and i have been there for him when he wanted to talk about other women ..he really does let me into a bit of his private life..i like that and i wish he keeps me as a friend until he plans to stay married.
my dad is scorpio too and he married young..he got frustrated and ran away from the 1st marriage (i mean left the country and everything in general)and got married to my mom! ..but he kept it secretive for many years!..i dont know how loyal a scorpio is but this doesnt seem fair does it.

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Jugular
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posted September 29, 2008 06:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jugular     Edit/Delete Message
ConfusedGemini:

Sorry this Scorp thing ended the way it did, although I'm not sure the guy is evil and disgusting, and deserving of being villified, but then again, the composition of my personality makes me very very different from the norm.

I do think he sounds like he could use some lessons in manners and social graces, he sounds rough around the edges. And also confused, yes.

But... I am one of the real novices here on this forum, so definitely not qualified to render advice on negative aspects, other than what pops out from, say, a Cafe Astrology chart. I suggest you plug his details into that website, because you will get a more detailed profile there than on Astro (for free). Or, post his chart on the Astrology forum and see if one of the posters can dissect your ex.

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posted September 29, 2008 12:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scorpionic Web     Edit/Delete Message
CG:

I've been the role of "the other guy" once or twice before and I hated it. Most recently a Sag girl very well could've liked me more than her current man, she felt unloved and stuck in her situation.

She was nowhere near married to the guy, but when there is no love, a marriage is nothing more than two rings and legal documents.

I wouldn't recommend getting involved with him. He needs to sort out his mess first. There are many reasons why people cheat, so I was just trying to offer what I believe to be the most frequent reason for why a Scorpio may cheat.

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Lucia23
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posted September 29, 2008 12:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message
Yipes, Gem!

To me, this guy sounds very toxic and manipulative. His mixed messages and insult/flirtations are very inappropriate. given that he's not single and that you are in the workplace.

If I were you, I would just internally send him a kind thought and move on, even just as a friend. He doesn't sound like someone it's healthy to be involved with in any way right now. He has his own personal stuff to work out--lots of it!

Hope you find somebody really exciting soon.

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posted September 29, 2008 06:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LetsDance     Edit/Delete Message
Please dont take this wrong, Confused, but do you like him just because he's a scorpio? I mean the guy has been insulting, told you he was married and has a child. Would you tolerate that from some other guy who wasn't a scorpio?

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posted September 30, 2008 11:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GemGemGem     Edit/Delete Message
"..i want to know what am i getting myself into.."

Uh, I would say you are setting yourself for a lot of CONFUSION and tears. I understand why you would want to go out with him though...the intrigue and mystery, blah, blah, blah.

I'm with Lucia23, he is manipulative, and is playing games with your mind. As soon as you say you will not go out with him, he asks you out. You say you don't want him..he uses the stare. You said you will not let it go to any physical level... now he's going to try to get into your pants. It's about conquering, and the challenge. You've already lost 2 battles!

Mars in Aqua men are very clever, and have the ability to get whatever they want using their intellect and mind tricks. The ones I know are very insincere. (Not saying they all are, but just the ones I know)

Be careful, he'll have your pants and bra off, before you even know what happened!
If you want to win the game, make sure you stay true to yourself and to what you want. Say what you mean...and be consistent. Don't tell him you would never date him, then the next minute, accept a date from him. That is inconsistent. He is testing you. Don't bend to his will, and don't be so willing to do what he asks...

Hopefully you have a good deal of Taurus in you, cause I think that strong earth sign is the ONLY thing that can cut Scorpio BS, and not get swept away by that stare, and charm! Good luck!

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