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raj_105_2001
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posted December 26, 2008 10:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for raj_105_2001     Edit/Delete Message
It is quite popular in our country to consider women as ununderstandable. I am not sure it is the same way elsewhere. Recently one of my friends said "You cannot judge girls". I have heard "You cannot read the mind of a girl" many times. I believe it is wrong. I simply cannot understand why men (and this is men only) say that.

Is it because men have basic difficulty in empathizing with the feminine point of view? Are women truly incomprehensible? If so, why it is so? If not, why do men feel that way?

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hippichick
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posted December 26, 2008 11:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message
We are horses of different colors, men and women.

To understand a woman, or for a woman to understand a man, (which we have difficulty with sometimes) takes a lifetime, alot of patience and a willingness to walk in the other's shoes, atleast symbolicaly anyway.

From what I have seen in heterosexual couplings, most women and men do not try to understand eachother, they just accept.

I once had a male friend who relayed to me that he has spent the afternoon with his 17 year old son and a group of same age young men, "woman bashing!" I scolded him for this idiotic behavior, told him IF he chooses to not understand us, to not take the time to get to know us, then to keep his mouth shut about what he knows nothing about!

We are far from incomprehensible, but when you mix the femanine energy, the hormones and what most of us females have going on in life, we can be very scary.

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WaterDog
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posted December 26, 2008 06:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for WaterDog     Edit/Delete Message
At the risk of sounding judgmental, it's pretty simple: We all think and feel the same things. The difference is that women will use their feelings to guide their decisions, and men will toss them out and act with their thoughts.

For women, I often say, "What would you do if you had no feelings about this situation?" And they usually choose the option that their man chose.

Feel free to stone me. It doesn't cover every situation known to mankind, but it serves a purpose generally.

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afflictedvenus
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posted December 26, 2008 07:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for afflictedvenus     Edit/Delete Message
I'd have to agree with you not stone you

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CoralFrequency
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posted December 26, 2008 10:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CoralFrequency     Edit/Delete Message
lol I find this silly.

You can understand anyone. It depends on ability to listen/psychological skills.
You might, for instance, find it a lot easier to understand an individual of the opposite sex in your own culture, rather than an individual of the same sex in a drastically different culture.

Understanding is based on having things in common, past events, similar family/childhood etc Things where you *click*. You can have that connection with both men and women.

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Have heard "You cannot read the mind of a girl" many times. I believe it is wrong. I simply cannot understand why men (and this is men only) say that.

Women say this also. The reason this is said is basically: "jumping to conclusions".
There are a number of people you may not understand very well for whatever reason. However if you are sexist, when those people you don't understand happen to be the opposite sex - you immediately jump to the conclusion that you just don't understand the opposite sex in general.

Basically the exact same men you heard say that ^, would have difficulties understanding other MEN, also. I am positive that there are men/boys, in the lives of these men whom they likewise misunderstand.

Some people just don't have the psychological flexibility necessary to understand someone who has a completely different personality to theirs (based on differences in culture, background, social status, astrological factors, AGE (you'll often hear older people saying they can't understand younger generations!).. and whatever else). I knew a guy who was very much the country boy. He always said that he can't stand metrosexual types. He had NO understanding of them and no desire to understand. He often called them gay (which he sees as derogative).

Some individuals just enjoy having their boxes and their categories. It makes them feel safe.
That same guy might say "I just don't understand women" - but HEY look at all the men you don't understand! lol
I am sure he'd understand a woman who has the same traditional views on everything that he himself has.

It's all personality based! No connection to biological sex.

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26taurus
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posted December 27, 2008 07:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message
"We are far from incomprehensible, but when you mix the femanine energy, the hormones and what most of us females have going on in life, we can be very scary."

*nods

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Chryseis
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posted December 27, 2008 10:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chryseis     Edit/Delete Message
I think women are very ambitious. Because we don't always know what we need in order to succeed we tend to fluctuate and adjust and expect others to do the same. Even our rigid principles have exceptions if we think it necessary to achieve our ends.

How many women chip away at their husbands to mould them into what they think is what they want - only to not want them and divorce them at the end.

We like status. Even those chasing a wastrel musician is after his romantic status, or a commune living greeny for his ideals and political stance. We use our charms to entice men so that we might have them do our bidding, provide for us, and support us. Ultimately, we want to be taken into a better way of living, we like protection.

So I would think that if I was a man, the best way to understand women is to realise that they are after 'stuff'. Therefore, focus on activities that relay to women that you are quite capable of something. Eventually, some woman won't be able to resist your particular ability to provide for the future or make their world a nicer place to be,and assure her survival.

Love starts with understanding. Be amused at how simple a woman is. The complexity is just a ruse or a juggling act to achieve our goals.

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koiflower
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posted December 28, 2008 04:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for koiflower     Edit/Delete Message
You live in India, am I right? There will be different cultural ideals that women and men fit into. Therefore, perceptions will change depending from which cultural viewpoint you are assessing from.

How are women treated in your province? Are they threatened in any way? Do you have full democracy?

If I live in fear, repression and angst, you could not read my mind. If I live in freedom, democracy and choice, I'd probably tell you, to get to the back of the line if you push in.

Meet me at a party, and I'll tell you my life story - you would not have to read my mind. Try to tell me what to do with my body and mind, and I will close everthing off to you. You would not read my mind or my body.

I love where I live. People tell you exactly how they feel, whether you like it or not!!!! Then it is my choice how to respond!!!

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MyVirgoMask
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posted December 28, 2008 07:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
We just want your very soul, what's so hard to comprehend about that

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Chryseis
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posted December 28, 2008 01:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chryseis     Edit/Delete Message
Heehee MVM,

Yeah, is that too much to ask?? We don't let them have the remote for nuthin! Haha

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