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Polo C
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posted January 07, 2010 07:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polo C     Edit/Delete Message
Yes, that is a very good point Diana! Poor runners, when will they ever understand that there will be No Gain without the prerequisite Pain.

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posted January 07, 2010 11:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message

"What has to happen within them so that they can stop running?"
They have to realize that there is no point in running (other than to exhaust themselves), cause they really CAN`T escape, as they are running away from feelings / their mate, which are a part of themselves.

It is almost like running away from your shadow; you can do that, and yet the shadow will never leave you.

Of course that is only then the case, if they are running out of fear.
There may be cases when this running is actually sign that they weren`t right for each other to begin with.

But I truely believe, that youc an`t run away from your true love, as (s)he runs deep in your blood, heart and soul.


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I am talking her about the emotional level; I do agree with Diana that sometimes there are reasons that you can`t live a connection despite the feelings.
Maybe sometimes a twinflame has to run, cause they haven`t experienced all they need to before reuniting with their twin?
But even if that is the case, they will never forget their twin, nor will their feelings fade or wither, not even after 20 years.

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posted January 07, 2010 01:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for venus in gemini     Edit/Delete Message
Runners trigger the requisite lessons on both sides. Also keep in mind that a lot of your own personal karma needs to be cleared and balanced before you can come together.

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posted January 07, 2010 04:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polo C     Edit/Delete Message
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Maybe sometimes a twinflame has to run, cause they haven`t experienced all they need to before reuniting with their twin?
But even if that is the case, they will never forget their twin, nor will their feelings fade or wither, not even after 20 years.

Wow! Never forget, not even after 20 years? I imagine then that, possibly, if one ever truly does encounter their Twin Flame, they will never ever forget them for the rest of their lives! That's a real tragedy of they don't find a way to come together then. Everybody needs to wake up from their spiritual slumber and realize the importance of this union.

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Runners trigger the requisite lessons on both sides. Also keep in mind that a lot of your own personal karma needs to be cleared and balanced before you can come together.

OMG! This is true! I wouldn't be here talking about how much I have learned if she hadn't ran... Woah! It is a necessary step needed to delay any physical or sexual union until the spiritual bond is fully realized. The more I learn about this process the more beautiful it seems. This is the way it should always be... For all of us. The is the Right Path to love and I can see it now. The separation is just growing pangs. You may not like going through it, you may even want to quit, but don't! On the other side you will experience things you never thought possible... Things you lacked the awareness or knowledge to even dream of will become part of your life, your true life, your Real Life.

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posted January 07, 2010 04:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
"Never forget, not even after 20 years"
Never.
But then this might have to do more with one`s own psychology than a twinflame-connection.
For example I NEVER forget someone who has been close to my soul.
It`s one of the reasons I don`t let too many people in lightly, cause that I can`t let go of them emotionally easily.
My feelings, my friendships are forever, if they have been true and deep in the first place.

"Everybody needs to wake up from their spiritual slumber"
That was actually what this encounter did to me. Wake me up from my spiritual slumber. Actually I took notice of that guy exactly around that time that I not only heard of Linda Goodman for the first time, but also stumbled across an article for the first time in my life, with the title: "only half a Self without you" and it was about Twinflames, and also dealt with astral travel.
This kinda changed everything for me. And I think it was THE big crossroad in my life.
And I was only 15 years old, but believe me from that moment on nothing in my life was "normal" anymore. lol

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Funny though, that guy who has been the catalist for my spiritual development, and me share in the composite:
- Eros-Psyche opposition from Taurus to Scorpio
- Isis-Osiris conjunction in Scorpio

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posted January 07, 2010 05:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diana     Edit/Delete Message
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Yes, that is a very good point Diana! Poor runners, when will they ever understand that there will be No Gain without the prerequisite Pain.

Can you explain this further?

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posted January 09, 2010 04:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polo C     Edit/Delete Message
The runners run out of fear, fear of some pain they must face in order to grow and evolve. If they truly understood what awaited them, maybe they could find the courage to face the pain bravely and gain the spiritual benefits. Then again, as I learn more about the reasons that runners run, unconsciously, many times, this is exactly what they are doing, developing the courage as they slowly start to understand.

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posted January 09, 2010 12:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Every soul has their own learning and growing speed.

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posted January 09, 2010 02:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
what if, by the time they meet, one has a spouse and children? perhaps the running has more to do with maintaining integrity in previously made relationships and not fear at all? or perhaps they are running because YOU are not ready and they can sense this??

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posted January 09, 2010 04:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diana     Edit/Delete Message
Polo C,

Sometimes people run out of fear, but often it's other reasons that have nothing to do with fear. I think a lot of the non-runners tell themselves it's fear, even when the runner gives them other reasons. I have experienced this myself. The non-runner will believe anything but the truth for some reason.

And I don't think you should encounter pain, or need it. Love shouldn't hurt.

Katatonic: Exactly!! Although it's not always the case, sometimes it is. Sometimes it's fear, but if you really care about someone you don't run out of fear. You may run for other reasons, but not fear.

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posted January 10, 2010 12:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Just Mia     Edit/Delete Message
Yeah, I have been going through this for about 6 years with a guy..He is the runner and I am the stayer then he is the stayer and I am the runner. We keep coming back to each other time and time again. And even when we are apart I can still feel him thinking about me. The last time we split I ened things and then some months later we talked and I wanted him back and I can tell that he wanted to come back but could not make up his mind if he could give his all this time..Its weird..I have been tryng to push on with my life my head says to do so but my heart is at a stand still..I know that he will be back yet again, just not sure when..

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posted January 10, 2010 12:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DiandraReborn25     Edit/Delete Message
this is just my perception,as i fortunately never had this experience but

as it was said ...all is as it should Be.and it is always for our own good ( of the Soulīs).

maybe the runner is not the right person for us;maybe that time in life is not the best to live the love;maybe the runner is fearfull of actually love another..?who knows really..there can be many reasons but he most important is the one that isnt actually thhere in front of our eyes,and we only take conscious of it after some time had passed.

if there is a runner,it means that no true abundance of love can be shared by those twho people at that time. and...is it only the runner who is not ready? or the stayer might also have something to work within,in order to be able to live that love at the fullest?

or...thinking about it,wasnt the running the best thing that ever happened to them?for both of them?while one is acting from a place of fear and doubt,there can never exist the better relationship possible between the two.

it iwll only happen when both are trully ready.in its right time for the highest good of all.

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posted January 10, 2010 01:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message

shrugs

maybe the running has to do with them not being twin flames after all.

some people get creeped out if a person thinks that he is her soulmate,let alone his/her twin flame. That goes especially if there is no romantic interest.

It's a practical way of looking at it.


Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

- Eckhart Tolle

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posted January 10, 2010 02:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Glaucus,

that thought crossed my mind, too.

Even though it probably can`t be said for all.

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posted January 10, 2010 02:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polo C     Edit/Delete Message
All of you make excellent points and they are all plausible reasons for why someone might run. As Diandra says "All Is As It Should Be" and there is nothing that can be done to change it. We accept it, we learn from it and we grow from it, no matter what the situation or circumstances are, they are designed to teach us something new so that our Souls can be expanded. (You may win some and you may lose some, but either way, you learn some) and with this understanding, if the whole purpose of life is to learn and grow, then how can you really ever lose?

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posted January 10, 2010 02:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DiandraReborn25     Edit/Delete Message
Polo

i guess we never ever really lose.

not in a soulīs sense..but as we are living in this 3rd dimension,where most of our desires and happinessīs basis are egoic...we actually yhink we lose,when infact ...we just win.

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