posted January 13, 2009 12:55 PM         

I just have to keep weighing the pro's and the cons..

posted January 13, 2009 02:37 PM         

"Instincts may include the desire to show some rationality."

Amen..

posted January 13, 2009 02:47 PM         

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have you ever had your intuition in conflict with your heart's desire?

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Nope, the two are inseperable for me. I'm never balancing "feelings" against "feelings". I know who I am and what I want. I question women's motives, which slows down my process of deliberation over whether to stay or go, but if it doesn't feel right then my heart won't be in it regardless.

posted January 13, 2009 02:53 PM         

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Instincts may include the desire to show some rationality

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If one is rationalizing then they aren't being instinctual at all, so I don't see how the two can be compared.

Rationality is a purely intellectual function; heartless.

posted January 13, 2009 04:38 PM         

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btw how do you guys handle being in a torn situation..Maybe your way could help too..

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If you follow your heart, will you regret it later...? You head might be trying to prevent you an even greater pain yet to come...

posted January 13, 2009 04:41 PM         

"If you follow your heart, will you regret it later...? You head might be trying to prevent you an even greater pain yet to come..."

posted January 13, 2009 07:43 PM         

you could always go with door #3- neither

posted January 13, 2009 08:52 PM         

That's why the heart does not respect intellect.

However, if it is a matter of your physical safety or your life in some way, shape or form, choose with your mind.

Many times we want all or nothing at all and life isn't that clean cut, black or white. The Saturn reality is that relationships are complicated, life is in the grey area. Love is in the grey area.

Also, you can still love someone and not live with them or be intimate with them. A huge part of love is Saturn-like respect. Saturn also rules trust and if you can't trust someone, how can you have a relationship with them?

I don't know what the issues are that makes your decision so difficult so I can't help to push you in either direction, but something that has helped me in the past is to ask my higher power "please reveal more. I need more information and clarity in order to decide." And usually more will be revealed.

posted January 14, 2009 12:08 AM         

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So either I question AG's argument, or we are all dealing with *very* different definitions of Love itself.

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Yeah, personalized definitions. And it's not necessarily that the definition is different. It's that the expression is different. It's like there's ingredients relationships can choose from or something. We could probably relate them to the planets if we wanted to even.

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If we always made decisions with our intellect instead of our emotions, we would reject love 95% of the time.

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I wouldn't. I'm a very curious person, and like I said in another thread recently, I'd be in a relationship with every sign in the zodiac if I got the opportunity, because I'd just like to see how it goes. It's rationally based in curiosity, and yet not exclusionary.

posted January 14, 2009 04:45 AM         

There's the Gemini rising again

I'd say my intuition is a messenger and translator for my head and heart. Logic only goes so far, and emotions change. I wish I listened to it more often. I don't find intuition emotional or logical. At least not mine. It doesn't always make sense right away, but I'm often startled at how far-sighted it *really* is.

posted January 14, 2009 06:06 AM         

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Some say follow your heart ahhhh the heart has no logic and just wants what it wants...

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posted January 14, 2009 11:15 AM         

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tada...Hey Aqua guy where you been???

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Busy with Holidays and other crazy stuff...

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I was going to email you bc I have not heard from you in awhile and I wanted to know what was going on how was your holiday and stuff..

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Nothing new to report - we both kinda drifted away during the crazy Holiday season...

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Its not a pretty thing..The head and the heart battling..Some say follow your heart ahhhh the heart has no logic and just wants what it wants...Pisces Sun Aqua moon, wish these two would work together sometimes when it comes to matters of the heart..

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I feel just the same way as you do lately, but, I am forcing myself to stay away from Her to get over it...

Keep busy with something else - learn the electric guitar like Me... LOL... That will work... Rock on...! LOL... :hug:

posted January 14, 2009 12:55 PM         

The heart rules love, and there is not so much I can do about that. I don't want to regret anything, and I don't want to ask "what if"-questions later.

Of course therefor I will have more pain, more hurt and anxiety in my life - but I am also in for more love and those unique magic moments and that makes it worth it - every time. Memories that still gives you goose-bumps 5 years later.

I've never regret taking chances in love, even when it ended badly. I wouldn't have known that if I hadn't tried. Love is too rare to let go if you have the opportunity to feel its bliss.

I don't want to realize that I've lived a "nice and safe" life when I'm old. I want to cry, scream, pass out under the stars, feel souls merging, stop time, be passionate, be spontaneous, kiss for five days straight, feel the adrenaline rush from pitch-black anger, be childish, read poetry to someone and sing until the neighbors complain.
How else can I understand other people if I'm not willing to try all different emotions at least once? I will never learn anything and grow if I stay in my little safety bubble.

I'd rather feel pain than nothing at all. It's about being alive, and real.

But then again, I easily get carried away when it comes to romance... Ask me again in 10 years when I've experienced more love - and more pain... Maybe I've grown older then? Even if I'd rather stay young and naive in this matter.

posted January 14, 2009 12:59 PM         

Personally, having so much Aqua in my 11th (sun, merc, mars), I have always struggled with love. I don't know if I have ever felt what other people say love is, as I have never made a move with just my heart. (Moon in Leo, 5th, but Venus in Cappy, 10th... passionately practical? lol)

My current dilema is literally choosing between acting with my head or my heart. I feel that I am at an age where I have to think things through a lot before making a decision, it's not just puppy love at this point. What I choose now is most likely going to be the corner stone of my "grown up" life that will last the rest of my life. That is scary for me, one who is a major future thinker and has a very hard time in the "here and now".

It's also hard to trust emotion. It's irrational and impractical. I am an extremely logical person, so any type of emotion is like hyroglyphics to me. I don't know how to express what I feel, how to understand what I feel, or how to react and interract with others based on what I feel. I am always planning, calculating, and observing. I wouldn't know if I was madly in love or just had a bad case of indegestion most of the time.

I wish I could just "follow my heart". It sounds easy to say it, it looks fairly beautiful to read it, but to actually do it? How can you be certain it won't end disasterously? Some may say, "love is pain, that's the whole point!!" But to me, I just can't do it...

I am also about to rock my Saturn return, so hopefully this may be one of the things that I will overcome and discard on my path to the butterfly me, so I guess we will see.

I really wish you luck, everyone who is faced with this same issue. I hope your decisions work out for the best, no matter which way you decide to lean.