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AriesGirlEnjoys
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posted June 19, 2009 12:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AriesGirlEnjoys     Edit/Delete Message
I was involved with my Scorpio ex eight years ago. It was a sad break-up due to circumstances that neither of us were happy about.

Through the years we kept in touch on and off. He's had insecurity issues all along. We're from what some might term "different sides of the tracks" with my family being more educated and wealthy. He's blue collar. But there have always been deep emotions from both sides.

We've been in touch again more steadily the last couple of years - and quite frequently now the last couple of months with him calling me a lot. The communication has been closer and more open than ever. We both seem to be more evolved and mature and seem to have dealt with many issues.

I moved away from the area where he lives but am back this week for a visit, staying with family. He's been very eager to see me. He came over yesterday.

It was great seeing him, but I ended up kind of unhappy because it got physical and he has a girlfriend (don't really know their story or what's going on with them). He's also going out of the country next week for ten weeks.

I hate feeling like I was some type of booty call but it's all kind of confusing because I'm just not sure. Time will tell obviously but you guys on this forum seem pretty wise.

His bday is: 11/22/58

My bday is: 4/17/62

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Lyra
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posted June 19, 2009 01:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lyra     Edit/Delete Message
Mmm, hmmm...how "physical" did it get? Y'know, if he has a girlfriend already, you shouldn't really be getting *physical* with him - put yourself in the shoes of his g/f?

Scorpios are very sexual and unfortunately a bit prone to letting their gonads rule their head and jumping in with someone on a whim without prior thought for the consequences...I know...I am an Aries going out with a Scorpio. I try to speak softly & carry a big stick...or play him at his own game when he says women are hitting on him...I say "oh I'd better ring (one of my several male friends) then" LOL - just so he's kept on his toes a bit and stays just a little afraid of me. Though I love him, I try not to get TOO emotional, and keep my cool if I possibly can when he is obviously pushing my buttons.

Yeah, I can identify with the "Lady & The Tramp" scenario LOL and the passion etc. But you shouldn't be seeing him on any other level but a friendly one for the time being, particularly as he's got a g/f and you don't know their story. I mean, the guy must be laughing all the way to - I don't know what, with TWO women on the go.

Personally I'm not always a fan of getting back together with someone (although having said that, Scorpio b/f and I split up 3x and got back together, but only because there was a connection unlike anything we'd ever known - we had, say, approx. 6 week breaks from each other - it took him a VERY long time to come round properly the last time and a lot of patience on my part). But with other boyfriends, or friends, for that matter, where the relationship's gone sour, I've found there to be no point in starting it up again - going our separate ways happened for a reason. Because trust me, nothing will have changed and you will be fixed in time, still at the point where you left off, FOREVER. Although it's possible for Aries and Scorpio, if they BOTH TRULY DESIRE A LONG-TERM RELATIONSHIP, to both make a bit of effort (commendable, since they are both selfish signs) and successfully manage to move the relationship forward, generally the only way you can grow is in relationships that are fully alive and where both partners have a genuine mental and emotional (as well as physical) commitment to the relationship and make the effort. Otherwise, things aren't going to go anywhere. With Scorpios, you can wait for them, but be prepared for a few games along the way - they want people who can sort of put up with them and remain reasonably cool (even though they might not feel it).

(Actually I bumped into another Scorpio ex once - the relationship had been very short-lived and I thought the chances of bumping into him in London were as slim as finding a needle in a haystack - I really didn't want to see him again, although he was incredibly hot, bit like Christian Bale in Batman but EVEN hotter, in a Portuguese sort of way - he was standing at the gates of a park and hid behind the gates when he saw me coming up the road - I played along and *pretended* not to see him...I sort of realized why I'd gone out with him, but remembered that it wouldn't have worked because of the language barrier, and because I think his aim was just to live off me - he wanted to move in with me after ONE DATE!!)

I hate to sound really cruel and I understand you completely, but I think you need a more devoted relationship and something that can be allowed to happen in its own time, which is free from complications.

This is only my opinion - don't beat yourself up!!

With love, & best of luck,

Lyra

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AriesGirlEnjoys
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posted June 19, 2009 01:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AriesGirlEnjoys     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks for the reply. Yeah, it didn't go as far as it could have but it did go further than I wanted.

I stopped him, saying that I feel I deserve someone who wants to have sex with me as part of a relationship. He said he understood, which tells me he's probably not looking for a relationship with me or he would have said something like, "hey, that's me."

We ended up fooling around a little more but I'm not even sure why I did that other than it's been a while for me. Not really an excuse, I know.

It really did disappoint me because even though the physical part felt natural I felt like he was not respecting me as much as I thought he does.

The whole thing actually kinda turned me off him, which makes me sad because I thought we were becoming so close.

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Scorpionic Web
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posted June 19, 2009 01:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scorpionic Web     Edit/Delete Message
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Scorpios are... a bit prone to letting their gonads rule their head and jumping in with someone on a whim without prior thought for the consequences.

Wrong. We understand the consequences, and if we make such a choice it is never "without prior thought". If he valued his current commitment then he would've never let himself cheat. If you think Scorpio males can seperate their psyche from their penis then you don't know the sign as well as you believe to. I'm certain he accepted, or was perhaps even motivated by, the possibility of getting physical before he ever left his house.

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AriesGirlEnjoys
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posted June 19, 2009 02:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AriesGirlEnjoys     Edit/Delete Message
See, this is where I think I got confused. He is a very typical Scorpio in the way he always has everything planned out ten steps in advance. He is not a sleep around type of guy and I know his feelings for me are genuine.

When he was so eager to see me, it never occurred to me that it was for a booty call. I felt he wanted to test the waters because he is falling for me again.

I just have a real aversion to being with someone who is with someone else. But again I don't know the state of their relationship.

Ugh!

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Lyra
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posted June 19, 2009 05:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lyra     Edit/Delete Message
Scorpionic Web,

Ooh, I beg to differ. They are soooo... histrionic? I think? is the right word? or is it hedonistic? Anyway, very subject to corporeal desires, if you get my drift (sorry to tar all you lot with the same brush).

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teasel
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posted June 19, 2009 05:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message
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We understand the consequences, and if we make such a choice it is never "without prior thought". If he valued his current commitment then he would've never let himself cheat.

I would think this about anyone, regardless of their sign.

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comica23
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posted June 19, 2009 07:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for comica23     Edit/Delete Message
Aries girl with a Scorpio bf here too..

Well, a negative Scorpio can be sexual and selfish, but there are positive Scorpio too. And Scorpio can be the most loyal, deep, caring and selfless sign (after Pisces) too. Although it's such a shame that people often misunderstand this sign, which is actually the most misunderstood sign in the Zodiac.

A real (positive) Scorpio would never really lose his head over sex - in fact, they are the sign that has the best control over it, coz they understand it the most. And they are actually very emotional, longing for emotional link through physical intimacy (again, when it comes to positive, evolved Scorpio).

But in any case, no matter if he's really in love with you or just want some fun, I think that you still wouldn't want a man that can cheat his current gf with the "I don't have feelings for her anymore" excuse, right? Someone capable of betrayal is prone to do it again and again. And I wonder, if he ever loved his gf even in a moment, would he be able to do that to her even if he doesn't feel a thing for her anymore?? People who uses this kind of excuse is quite superficial in love, and no doubt selfless and lack of morality (there's not even guilt??). And it means that they don't truly love anyone.

Lastly, whether he's a sharp Scorpio or not, if he knew you well, he would have respected you and not try to do anything while he's still committed, coz he would know that you wouldn't want it. But he still tried, which means that he might be manipulating you.

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Scorpionic Web
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posted June 19, 2009 07:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scorpionic Web     Edit/Delete Message
Teasel:

I've known other signs to act without prior thought, so I wouldn't say that considering all consequences applies to just anyone. And I've known people of other signs who cheat in spite of the value they place on their committed relationship.

Lyra:

I haven't seen many Scorpio males fit the hedonistic description, I think most can't be that detached and are too closely linked to suffering. I would look to the opposite, Taurus, for a better likelihood of a hedonistic lifestyle.

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LetsDance
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posted June 22, 2009 09:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LetsDance     Edit/Delete Message
I agree with Scorpionic.

AriesGirlEnjoys, I wish I knew more about scorpio men, but I can only tell you about my experience with my fiance (he is scorpio).

I think your scorpio felt that you would have sex with him. He probably also knew that you would want a serious committment and he may have been testing you to see if you could resist temptation.

For him to be so focussed on getting physical with you, I wonder what your conversations were about. Scorpios see "behind" stuff and are very attentive to motives. The part about him cheating on his g/f is something I'm not familiar with. Scorpios (both sexes) are very loyal people and if he wanted to have sex with you and lie to his g/f, then I don't think his relationship is too serious with the other woman. He won't be with her too long unless some other obligation ties him to her.

Regarding you, it could be curiousity on his part, too. He's comfortable with you and you are with him, and your vibe towards him may have been more on the sexy side than the friendship side.

Just my two cents...

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AscTaurus
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posted June 23, 2009 07:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AscTaurus     Edit/Delete Message
Well numerologically, he seems to be more of the "aloof" type. The day of his birth as well as the year of his birth corresponds with the Planets Uranus/Saturn.

You on the other hand correspond to the energies of number 8, the Saturn energy.Both your day of birth and your year of birth correspond to this number.

Both of you are realists and this "common planet" connection that you have with this man could explain the attraction.Add to that, your month of birth has an affinity with Uranus/Saturn and this could be why you "understand" him so much.

According to numerology, the 4's are difficult to pin down as they are unstable and unpredictable. They usualy prefer friendship and a high degree of personal space even in relationship. They are also unpredictable as they can be just as needy and emotional, when it suits them, but detest it when another displays these characteristics with them.These are the rebels, the unconventional types.

The 8's are said to be the most "productive" and "outcome-based" people that you can find. They are usualy serious minded people who prefer order and clarity in life situations(even in relationships). The number 8 wants to know where we are going? if this thing will last? etc. They don't like doing things just for the sake of doing them and will insist on a course/direction that will yield tangible outcomes. They are the builders, constructers and strategist types.


The thing that I think is important to remember in every relationship that you enter(numerology,astrology, zoology etc aside) is that, every realtionship we enter into (either intimate or paltonic) is meant to serve us. Ask yourself "What do I want from this relationship? How can I be the best person I can be with this person?

If you can't answer these two questions conclusively, in my opinion, YOU ARE WASTING YOUR TIME.

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AriesGirlEnjoys
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posted June 24, 2009 01:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AriesGirlEnjoys     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks for the replies you guys! He called me the day after his visit. He said he wanted to make sure I knew he didn't come over to make a move on me. That it wasn't a booty call or meant in a disrespectful manner. That it just happened. (And he did stop as soon as I told him to stop.)

We've not discussed his girlfriend and now I'm wondering if they're even still together. I don't know.

Our relationship/phone discussions in recent months haven't been overtly sexual in nature at all. He has been very open with me in a way that is new to our relationship.

I'm just going to leave things be for now. He's leaving the country for ten weeks. Said he would call me when he gets settled abroad. Right now I consider him a friend. I'm not looking for drama.

I really appreciate all the insight. It's been great to get your perspectives.

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LetsDance
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posted June 24, 2009 09:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LetsDance     Edit/Delete Message
They don't like rejection either. But, for scorpio, Nothing ventured, nothing gained.

I would say since you rejected his advances, he was "playing it off" nonchalantly. These people are very sensitive (perceptive) and he would not have made a move if he didn't think you wanted him too. As it happens, he has found out what you want, and he may not be ready or want to deliver that. I don't know how you will remain "platonic" friends with him if you are attracted to him, though...

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LetsDance
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posted June 24, 2009 09:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LetsDance     Edit/Delete Message
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