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Antiquarianbookcollector
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posted June 28, 2009 09:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Antiquarianbookcollector     Edit/Delete Message
I'm sorry to add to the variety of threads discussing the Cancer man but this particular detail eludes me. For the past year, this Cancer man just stops in his tracks and just stares at me. I guess when Cancers do that but don't say anything, what does that mean? Usually I'm good at interpreting gazes (being a Scorpio) but when those are of the Cancer variety, hm. Most of the time, I fear that I'll be rejected so I just kind of stare back until one of us walks away. Does the Cancer man think I'm rejecting him? I don't mean to and I'm really interested in him but I guess I am scared because he hasn't really done any initiating, only responding. Thanks for all your help.

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posted June 28, 2009 10:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message
This kind of water sign behavior used to allure me, but now I say, "Run, run away!!"

If you are both 14 years old, and a boy gives you an intense stare or vibe but is too chicken to EVER approach you, ask you out, or make out with you, it might be sweet true love and he is overwhelmed by the depth of his feelings and he is a bit shy.

If a grown-up man is acting like this, it means something is wrong with him! And I think women get the wrong idea, at least in my case, from having once been teenage girls and seeing men freeze up in our wake.

Adult men who are interested AND able to have a relationship will make a clear move, striking up conversation. That worry he thinks you're rejecting him is not a problem unless you've been overtly cold or mean to him. In case he is just shy, my advice would be to warmly meet his eyes and smile at him. If he does not make a real move within a short period after that, run!!

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posted June 29, 2009 01:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for woah city     Edit/Delete Message
"something wrong with him."

i can't help taking issue with this. if a man is timid it means he's got something wrong with him that is best run from? every man is different, just as every woman is. i guess you've figured out that in your life you need men to be more direct, but we all don't fit the same mold or have the same needs, and certainly i don't see anything WRONG with a man who's too timid to make a move on a woman. seems kinda sweet. and aren't we talking about cancerians? who's ever heard of a bold cancerian, especially at first?

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posted June 29, 2009 02:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message
He doesn't need to be bold, or not timid.

It's just that once a woman gives him a nice warm smile and meets his eyes, or especially if she finally approaches him, and he doesn't make a move over months and months and months, yet he vibes her and stares at her and does things like appear to have jealous meltdowns, then he's just sending out "hooks" and he's going to be a waste of her energy.

Also, past a certain sell-by date (it doesn't sound like this situation is there yet--sounds like Mr Cancer just needs some friendly encouragement, I hope), once a woman is making excuses for a man like, "He's so scared of the intensity between us that he doesn't want to ever see me or touch me" or "He seemed angry when I invited him to spend time with me and my friends, yet he started stalking me, yet when I tried to touch his arm, he gave me a smoldering look and looked away and now he avoids me, after three years we're like strangers"---then the man is not a sweetly timid water sign, he's one of those messed up ones who is incapable of closing the deal.

The thing about a man who gives you smoldering, unreadable looks is that it can tap into a lot of fantasies--you can be thinking, "He wants me so much he's intimidated and shy," while he is unconsciously luring your attention, yet if you try to make a real, human connection, he will retreat.

None of this applies to inexperienced boys. A 22-year-old college boy with little experience with girls might be really shy and tongue-tied. A 35-year-old, even if still shy, needs to have learned some skills for at least responding to interested women.

There's a HUGE difference between a guy who's too timid to make a move (kind of sweet) and a guy who fails to RESPOND to a long series of moves, yet keeps the woman hooked by staring at her all the time.

I'm not so much thinking of my particular needs (I love a guy I have to chase a little), as the posts I've read on another astrology site over YEARS about guys who stand around looking brooding and interested and send crazy mixed signals for YEARS but are just not really able to actually make a connection ever.

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posted June 29, 2009 02:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message
Re: Cancers...some are actually very bold/gregarious at first, then when feelings get involved they will skittle backwards away into a dark spot, leaving their partner confused.

The nice ones may be timid and send confusing mixed signals, but they WILL respond when you are gentle and genuine. If some guy doesn't after a few tries, he's either not one of the nice ones or he has something weird going on in his life that precludes a relationship, and you should RUN!

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posted June 29, 2009 03:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dee     Edit/Delete Message
Re: Cancers...some are actually very bold/gregarious at first, then when feelings get involved they will skittle backwards away into a dark spot, leaving their partner confused.


That's what mine did

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posted June 29, 2009 02:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for woah city     Edit/Delete Message
yeah that's true that cancers can be rather fearless at first, but i think before they get to that point, they are assessing in their watery way; making sure they want to take that leap outta their shell.

i guess it's all context right? it just seemed like a pretty extreme bit of advice for a situation without a lot of context. but now that you've explained your reasoning to me, i do understand and agree with a lot of it!

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posted June 29, 2009 04:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Antiquarianbookcollector     Edit/Delete Message
Re: Cancers...some are actually very bold/gregarious at first, then when feelings get involved they will skittle backwards away into a dark spot, leaving their partner confused.

Thanks for all the advice and the above sums up my situation. What can I do to draw them out of their dark spot because I tried to give him space (5 months)?

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posted June 29, 2009 10:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message
The problem is that sometimes when a guy is a) really messed up, too messed up to have a relationship, b) more into someone else, but v. interested in her, so sending mixed signals he doesn't want to act on, or c) not interested, the woman will fantasize that he's scuttling away because his feelings are so tender, intense, etc.

If he's an adult man and you didn't do anything genuinely hurtful toward him, 5 months is too long.

However--some exceptions:

1) Is he really, TRULY single? And if so, has he ever had a real, semi-long term relationship with a woman?

If he is for sure single, has had real relationships in the past (if he is never involved with anyone, unless he is very young boy), and seems like he's across the board shy and socially awkward, then you could give it one more shot...meet his eyes, smile warmly at him, touch his arm and ask, "How are you?"

Honestly, though, this guy sounds like one of those who drive women to post on astrology sites in confusion, yet do not ever actually get together with those womem.

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posted June 29, 2009 11:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Antiquarianbookcollector     Edit/Delete Message
Cor. I feel like an idiot. Thanks for all your help Lucia23 and everyone else who responded.

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posted June 29, 2009 11:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for woah city     Edit/Delete Message
why do you feel like an idiot? there could be other reasons beyond the valid reasons lucia's pointed out. i dunno. i think significant relationships can start out in the strangest ways. maybe he's just processing his feelings and i don't think 5 months is way too long, if this is the case. some people needs lots of time, and for good reason. i say, make friends with him and just see what he's all about.

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posted June 29, 2009 11:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message
I actually agree with Woah! Please don't feel like an idiot, and remember that people like me posting on astrology sites can't really know the truth of the situation--I might have a whole different spin if I saw you two in action or had been following the story for the past year.

The most important thing is to go with your own intuition!

EDITED to ADD: In my case, with all my water influence (Cancer Moon, Saturn, Venus; 8th house solar stellium), fear of rejection really freezes me up and clouds my intuition...you may get your intuition/courage back if you really open your heart and are warm and friendly...that does not risk rejection. Knowing I am frozen from shyness keeps me from being able to empathetically read people the way I normally do. I feel like rejection will hurt me, but what REALLY hurts me is worrying that I have wounded the guy with my coldness or shyness...if I am able to open up and be warm and genuine, then I can know what's really going on and not worry that I am the problem. As a Scorpio, you will be able to feel the truth of the situation right away if you can just be true to yourself in your actions, so practice that with this guy.

Also--and please take this with a grain of salt, I am a watery 8th house Leo, not a real Scorpian, so my problems may not be yours--when I'm so into someone that I get shy, I tend to obsessively look for reassurance of signs that he likes me. The last guy who actually DID like me helped cure me of this habit, because when he let me know how he felt I got totally freaked and overwhelmed.

If you have been romantically hurt recently (I was still ending a long-term relationship and hadn't been single in a million years), all of this will feel tender emotionally. Knowing that you are truly embodying your own feelings (vibing real warmth and attraction toward this guy when you see him, you don't even have to make some overt move) will sooth you.

It offers temporary solace to go on some website and hear, "Oh yeah, that's a sign that he's crazy about you!" But it's a solace like skipping a party because you feel too shy to go...it doesn't really address the problem, and if you are at all obsessive (I am), it can bring you further away from open-hearted, real contact with the guy. In my case I am working hard to learn to act in a way that's true to my feelings--being warm and friendly to a guy I am attracted to, say--and then trusting that he will let me know how he feels OR my intuition, unclouded by terror, will let me know how he feels.

Agh sorry to write a novel. I'm just in the throes of figuring all this out, so take my advice lightly !

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posted June 30, 2009 12:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Antiquarianbookcollector     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks for giving me the extra courage. My intuition tells me to hang on and I am very obsessive. I feel so scared of being rejected because of the intensity of my feelings and also the situation.

I guess this is the detail I left out - he used to be my professor. He tried to get to know me during the semester but I pulled back because he was my professor. He was so emotional and I could feel his emotions bouncing off of me whilst he lectured. At this point, he is not my professor anymore and I feel as though he should have done something concrete to reassure me that he is not playing games. Or is he trying to process everything, etc?

Outside of class, we have exchanged e-mails and he responds at an alarmingly quick rate albeit politely. I try not to read too much into that but I just feel so frustrated.

Any thoughts? I mean we see each other but I feel weird approaching him when he just stops in his tracks and people have suggested the coffee pickup trick.

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posted June 30, 2009 01:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message
He is single, though, right? If not, drop it. If he is:

I maintain:

-get your own vibes in order so that you run into him, you are exuding a vibe from your chest that says, "I like you and want to get to know you" instead of a vibe that says, "eek, I'm scared, nervous, uncomfortable!" As as fellow water sign, he is probably picking right up on your nerves/discomfort and mirroring them right back

-look right into his eyes, smile warmly at him, and say, "Hi, how have you been?" Even if it feels weird and even if he is acting weird--saying Hi to a former prof and having a casual conversation is NOT WEIRD! Saying hi, how are you to anyone is okay...it seems like a small thing, but I've been amazed since I started doing this at how people respond.

And then exude warm vibes while REALLY LISTENING to his response, rather than worrying what he thinks of you.

-after you get to the point where you can be reliably warm, comfortable, friendly, and natural toward him, THEN you can consider a next move to make...

Turning outside yourself for advice and/or obsessing can be a sign that even though you think you are really into the guy...no, even though you ARE really into the guy...you aren't actually ready in real life to truly connect with someone new yet, probably because of hurt from the last relationship. Another sign is if you are obsessing/agonizing about the connection more than you are just enjoying it.

Get really warm and friendly towards him, more in how you feel than how you act. Stop trying to analyze his behavior/feelings and just act true to yours, paying attention as he reveals more of himself to you. Stop getting outside advice and tap all the way into your intuition. Have FUN with it and also fill your life with healthy things you enjoy. Do things that will bring you closer to what you want rather than farther away.

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posted June 30, 2009 01:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message
OOPs, double-post.

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posted June 30, 2009 04:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Antiquarianbookcollector     Edit/Delete Message
Okay, thanks for all your help. I tried to approach him and he just looked down then looks back up slowly with this weird smile! I'm trying not to read into that but is that good? He didn't even talk. I just got really uncomfortable, smiled again and walked away.

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posted June 30, 2009 08:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message
Yes, it's good. Keep smiling and exuding a WARM vibe.

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posted July 02, 2009 01:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Valus     Edit/Delete Message

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posted July 02, 2009 08:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mannu     Edit/Delete Message
Well in general when anyone watches anyone they are absorbing the presence of the other and for a moment you become the other and if he/she is receptive they become you too. Albeit, a cancer man seems to be absorbing so very deeply with no ripple of thought in his/her consciouness.

Sometimes I get comments such as -- you have such child like looks and at other times it sends a chill down the others spine and their body jerks . Thats when I move my eye slightly away

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posted July 02, 2009 02:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message
See--fire sign here, even if I do have lots of water, plus an 8th house stellium--long, intense, powerful looks are kind of WEIRD and/or creepy unless you are lovers or you hope to be lovers.

To me, looking at a girl like that is just FOREPLAY...watery men, stop staring at me if you're not interested!

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posted July 05, 2009 10:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Antiquarianbookcollector     Edit/Delete Message
Re: "To me, looking at a girl like that is just FOREPLAY...watery men, stop staring at me if you're not interested!"

I completely agree Lucia!

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posted July 11, 2009 06:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GypseeWind     Edit/Delete Message
Just wondering......

Maybe he is hesitant because he was your professor, and you know, even though your no longer his student, it is kinda awkward. Alot of folks value their reputation and care that others may think that is untoward behaviour, kind of like if a doctor dates an ex-patient.
I know it sounds dumb, but it just reminds me of a time when I was in college and my geology professor was interested in two girls in the class, he was very young and immature and flirted with them, it really wasn't a secret, but he flirted with everyone! Anyway, I guess the two girls, well, each had designs on him without knowing that the other did.
On our final class, we went on a geological field trip, you know, to look for fossils and such. Anyway, he spent some alone time with each one of them. I don't think anything happened, I really don't, maybe just some flirting or whatever.
Anyway, once grades were in and it was over and done with, he chose one girl over the other.
The rejected girl was, well, lets just say hell hath no fury, and you can imagine. She went to the dean and told him that the Prof did sexual act this, that and the other to her on the field trip, and called her this, that and another time, basically said he used her.
There was a trial, for lack of better word, I mean she did not claim rape at all, but it was an ethics trial. I saw him during that time, he looked just awful. I felt a bit bad for him, I mean, some people are just exuberant people and he struck me that way. I seriously don't think he meant to hurt anyone.
He did have boundry issues though, he went to a pub with the class on our invitation and became very intoxicated.
Anyway, he was put on acedemic probabation or whatever it is called and he still teaches there.
Sorry for the ramble, just trying to make a point that you don't always know what a person has been through to make them hesitant you know? Crushes on teachers are very common. Had a mad crush on a Scorp poetry professor myself. We still talk, but he's very married.

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posted July 11, 2009 07:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Antiquarianbookcollector     Edit/Delete Message
If you want, you could look at our synastry chart. There are actually two posts - one in Personal Readings and one in Astrology 2.0. Take a gander! Let me know what you think. My Scorpio Sun and possibly Mercury has made it impossible for me to forget or move on from this guy. Further, if it was just a crush, I probably would have forgotten him by now. Hope all is well is you!

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posted July 11, 2009 08:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GypseeWind     Edit/Delete Message
Oh honey, if only I could, I most certainly would!
I am not an astrologer, unfortunately..
Trying to learn though.
I am just kind of a person who posts here with personal experience in hopes to help others or at least shed some light.
I am sure that someone will be able to help you with that though! There are many, many knowledgable people here, and synastry is a very popular topic. You haven't had any relies on your charts yet?

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posted July 11, 2009 08:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Antiquarianbookcollector     Edit/Delete Message
Crud, I was looking for another opinion. If this is one big delusion then why is he looking at me like that, still? However, thanks for helping me. Sometimes I get so frustrated with this situation that a hug would be nice - I don't come from a very affectionate family.

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