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libral0ver
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posted August 04, 2009 02:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for libral0ver     Edit/Delete Message
i recently met a guy and really fell for him. it seemed odd because he's a capricorn and i'm a libra, but upon doing our entire charts it started to make better sense! here's some of the aspects between us:

venus/pluto conjunction in libra
pluto/pluto conjunction in libra
moon/saturn conjunction in virgo
venus/mars conjunction in sagittarius
sun/pluto conjunction in libra
moon/mars trine x 2 (leo/sagittarius & virgo/capricorn)
sun/moon trine (capricorn/virgo)
sun/moon sextile (libra/leo)
venus/venus sextile (libra/sagittarius)

clearly, there's a lot of good stuff going on there. and frankly, there are very few negative aspects in our synastry. however, despite developing a deep friendship and strong feelings of admiration/lust for each other over the past few months, our relationship has come to a halt- i'm just leaving and on/off relationship of 6 yrs, he's just leaving a serious 2 yr relationship and is already 'seeing' another woman, and some personal tragedy has just entered my life.. which makes me think i may not see him for quite a while.

i'm wondering if we'll re-enter each others lives at better timing? because our synastry, in my opinion, dictates a serious connection.. almost like fate brought us together.

what do you all think? could synastry this intense really not go anywhere?

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MyVirgoMask
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posted August 04, 2009 03:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
Sun signs alone won't determine compatibility as you've already seen. So far what you have sounds good (though really, there is no 'negative' in synastry IMO, just potential and things to work through if you are BOTH dedicated). However, something like Pluto/Pluto conjunction doesn't really count since it's generational and just says you guys are around the same age. Unless it's the ruler of one of the angles (1st house, IC/4th house, 7th house, MC/10th) conjunct one of your angles, then it's not too important.

Most important for synastry I'm noticing is the angles, and their rulers. So look at the ruling planets on those cusps and what they are doing. They must make some contact together, from one chart to the other, if things are going to go anywhere.

Also look at what is happening on the Ascendant in synastry because that tends to talk about the bond, and sometimes where things go. This also applies to the Midheaven/MC contacts. Again, these are the angles. If it's not the angles directly making contact, then study the angle rulers like I was saying earlier.

House placements are also important... the kind of impact you have on each other.

And you do need SOME Saturn contact ('good' OR 'bad')to make something go long term, more often than not.

There's a lot more to synastry than just the whole Venus/Mars etc. stuff. That stuff is all well and good but unless it rules one of the angles (or the rulers of the 5th or 8th house, which are more love/romance/sex/intensity/transformational) then it's really not going to go anywhere.

Also study BOTH of your chart separately first to kind of familiarize your self with what energies would do what. If your Pluto for instance squares his Venus widely in synastry, it's not really something to be alarmed by, because chances are he has a Pluto/Venus square in his own chart.

So maybe post both of your natal charts separately, and then a synastry chart as well, because it's near-impossible to tell with a list of some of the aspects, it would be like playing lotto

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comica23
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posted August 04, 2009 03:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for comica23     Edit/Delete Message
A great synastry points out a great compatibility potential, but it doesn't mean that two people would necessarily share a love relationship. Non-astrologically speaking two people's compatibility and the relationship they share, thought these are related, they are two different things (for example, a couple might have a nice compatibility but somehow things doesn't seem to work out, while another couple can be less compatible but somehow their relationship seems fine).

I would recommend a look at the composite chart, which shows the potential dynamics of a relationship. Of course, some these dynamics takes some time to start being relevant in the relationship (just like how relationships are in the real life), yet I often find it quite accurate when it comes to relationships. In the few cases I've seen (including myself), even thought two people can share a few number of amazing aspects (in which their effects were in fact noticeable in the real life), they didn't really share any intimate relationship at all or even have the desire for such (they shared composite charts with certain difficult aspects that indeed translated their situations).

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comica23
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posted August 04, 2009 03:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for comica23     Edit/Delete Message
I agree with MyVirgoMask, house rulers, specially those of AC/IC/DC, when aspecting the other person's AC/IC/DC, it can be quite meaningful. Also, the planet ruler can tell how the planet person tries to relate with the axis person, while the axis would tell how the axis person perceives the planet person. For example, my bf's IC/DC ruler Mercury is exact conjunct my IC, and he talks a lot with me lool. ^_^; And the more we communicate, the more I feel "at home" with him.

It seems that house rulers are kind of hidden jewels, so don't forget about them. XP

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posted August 04, 2009 03:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message
Relationship timing and duration can be more accurately measured by looking at synastry between Progressed/Progressed, and Progressed/Natal charts.

Look for aspects between Sun/Venus, Sun/Moon, Venus/Venus, & Venus/Mars in the two charts. Using a 3 degree orb, the waxing/applying of the faster to the slower planet is the strongest part of the interaction. From the exact conjunction onwards things will tend to cool off.

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libral0ver
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posted August 04, 2009 04:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for libral0ver     Edit/Delete Message
ok here's some house cusp info for us:

him: pisces on first house cusp
me: cancer on first house cusp

him: gemini on fourth house cusp
me: libra on fourth house cusp

him: cancer on fifth house cusp
me: scorpio on fifth house cusp
both: jupiter in the fifth house

him: leo on sixth house cusp
me: sag on the sixth house cusp

him: virgo on the seventh house cusp
me: capricorn on the seventh house cusp

him: sag on the tenth house cusp
me: aries on the tenth house cusp

him: capricorn on the eleventh house cusp
me: taurus on the eleventh house cusp

him: aquarius on the twelfth house cusp
me: gemini on the twelfth house cusp

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libral0ver
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posted August 04, 2009 04:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for libral0ver     Edit/Delete Message
Nine: i'm not sure how to do the progressed chart thing. here's our birth info:

me: october 13 1982 11:45 pm hartford, ct usa
him: january 15 1979 10:00 am washington dc usa

can you tell me anything about the progression thing?

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libral0ver
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posted August 04, 2009 04:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for libral0ver     Edit/Delete Message
okay here's our charts as well.. any insight anyone can give me is greatly appreciated!!

my chart:

his chart:

our composite chart:

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MyVirgoMask
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posted August 04, 2009 04:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
Would you post the synastry too please?
You've got some Node action going on I think.

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libral0ver
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posted August 04, 2009 04:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for libral0ver     Edit/Delete Message
synastry chart:

thanks so much

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Nine
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posted August 04, 2009 06:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message
When did you meet? Month? If not sure, then respective ages?

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libral0ver
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posted August 04, 2009 06:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for libral0ver     Edit/Delete Message
we met in february of 2009. not sure the exact day, but i think it was towards the end of the month. he's 30 and i'm 26.

thanks!

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Nine
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posted August 04, 2009 06:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message
Sorry. Double Post.

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libral0ver
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posted August 04, 2009 06:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for libral0ver     Edit/Delete Message
February.

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Nine
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posted August 04, 2009 07:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message
The quick and easy response.

There is a lot going on in your synastry. I would like to focus on the Sun and Moon in Progressed/Natal charts to zero in on when the dynamic shift may have occurred.

In February 2009, I see that his progressed Sun at 25 degrees Aquarius is making a direct opposition to your progressed Moon at 25 degrees Leo. This I believe was the primary source for the attraction, which then allowed for all the other wonderful aspects to be expressed.

Further, at 25 Leo, your progressed Moon was in conjunction with his natal Moon at 20 Leo. At the very same time his progressed moon was at 23 degrees Virgo, loosely conjunct your natal moon at 7 degrees Virgo.

Fast forward to July 2009, and I see your progressed moon has changed signs from Leo to Virgo. It is now at 1 degree Virgo. His progressed Moon in still in Virgo, at 29 degrees, but will progress into Libra any day now.

The next most exciting aspect is an applying/waxing Venus square Mars, yours to his. Great for generating body heat, but frequently conflict ridden.

Basically, the attraction/emotional part of the relationship is over, and it is now time for the next phase.

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libral0ver
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posted August 04, 2009 07:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for libral0ver     Edit/Delete Message
thank you so much! that totally makes sense and fits with what's happened in the past few months.

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