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Diana
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posted August 28, 2009 07:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diana     Edit/Delete Message
This thread is so over my head.

What's this about urine?

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posted August 29, 2009 09:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message

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Azalaksh
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posted August 29, 2009 01:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message
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I Even have some tolerance toward Arnold Schwarzenegger because he never cheated outside his own kind.
”His own kind”?? I didn’t know that Ahnold never had “relations” with beasts or space aliens – what an astounding revelation!!
Isn’t it nice to see such broad-minded and compassionate acceptance of other human spirits here at LL??

It’s so disappointing to see fanaticism and such extreme narrow-mindedness in the young :-(
I guess bias and insularity can be a refuge for those who fear the “different” and the Unknown -- to judge and denigrate others makes one feel secure and superior.....

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I'm the Saoshyant off this age and whoever of gnostics doesn't belong to the conservative strain can't either belong to my followers and gain entry to Fravashi.
Modesty, humility and megalomania are so refreshing.....

Oh no!!
"Master" Zeromus has pronounced from on high that I can't belong to his group of followers or enter Fravashi -- I guess there's no point in living any more.....

What a perfect example of Mars conj Saturn in Leo in its most negative manifestation!!
And no Moon sign -- that fits too, emotions are totally out of the picture

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cpn_edgar_winner
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posted August 29, 2009 03:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cpn_edgar_winner     Edit/Delete Message
i did figure out the urine thing, i will post it when i get time.

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katatonic
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posted August 29, 2009 03:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
i thought this was spam at first. not sure how the original post about taurus ascs goes with all the rest...?

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MyVirgoMask
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posted August 29, 2009 11:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
Is this some kind of a spiritual pi$$ing contest? Of course it can't be a contest since there's only one person involved lol.

There are other terms for indulgent activities which are done with one participant only.

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Master_Zeromus
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posted August 30, 2009 01:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Master_Zeromus     Edit/Delete Message
To cpn_edgar_winner first.

You forgot to mention that there are many Saoshyants and not just one. In the Gathas for example which are among the oldest known parts written down, our Prophet Zarathustra speaks about Saoshyants in plural form. And same does Zand i-Vohuman Yasht which relates to no less than 3 Saoshyants. The last of those is me and of the others one is Genghis Khan who cleansed the earth of those manichean Peshotanus. In those chapters which you refer to, it was the prophecy of our Shahanshah's first and second coming. Not recognized by todays zoroastrians but we Zhna blessed since Achamenidian-Sassanian times, believe this foremost Saoshyant labeled Shahanshah is Jesus Christ. No wonder then those 3 wise men from the east were zoroastrian Magis. Jesus caused a nearby revolution in Persia those days but in the end only we Zhna believed him to be Shahanshah and the greatest Saoshyant ever.

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posted August 30, 2009 01:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message
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The last of those is me and of the others one is Genghis Khan who cleansed the earth of those manichean Peshotanus.
People who think "cleansing the Earth" is OK give me the creeps.....
We are *ALL* here for a reason.

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posted August 30, 2009 01:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Master_Zeromus     Edit/Delete Message
No Diana! I was only testing you.

"Where there are 2 or 3 gods, I'm with them" says the Master. Doesn't the nature tell you that water, earth and fire complete each other? Look at geysers! Remember Krakatau the mighty volcano at Java-Sumatra! Wonders of our Daughter is what these 3 holy elementals are.

Nah, I'm still a god which turns back to the Progression thing. Maybe it is so that we evolve into more emotional form and get rid of our inner barriers finally. If so, blessed be our Daughter! It's in her interest that we become empty like innocent children. Rituals, ceremonies, religion and books are at best the indirect way of gaining Insight whereas observation of nature, meditation and spirituality is the direct way for achieving it. Fravashi is ours to be!

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posted August 30, 2009 01:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Master_Zeromus     Edit/Delete Message
******* contest? Don't be naive.

If you got to know, we use it for our rituals if someone has used foul language, for cleansing after pregnacy etc. If going to take a dip we rather use Gomez(Cow-**** ) instead but it's for real. Written in the Vendidad that is.

If the honoring of the Divine Bull has nothing to do with AC Taurus then what has? Anyways this thread was very much about AC Taurus, its inside relations, its true ruler and of its spiritual development. Nibiru as the ruler of Taurus, born at Sirius star system gives us more Insight than any other planet and thus literally pawns the solarsystem.

Oh and I mentioned about my Taurus Moon didn't I! Yes and those numbers meaning the House positions for each planet.

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posted August 30, 2009 03:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message
im confused with the special language used here...

regarding nibiru, i dont think this planet rules taurus, and essentially because, correct me if im wrong, it is an hypothetical planet. i would rather consider ceres as the ruler of taurus. i read somewhere posted by glaucus i think, that ceres is the biggest dwarf planet (i think the article also says that ceres is bigger than pluto - need to check that;

and ceres is about food, nature, prosperity...

so i disagree with nibiru ruling taurus

edit: ceres could rule virgo; why not? my point is, why consider a planet which doesnt exist as the ruler of taurus?

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posted August 30, 2009 04:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
'Master'_Zeromus, your language is off-putting as it reeks of condescension.

'Testing' people on a thread will not truly connect you to anyone on a human level - your pontificating language makes it seem as though you are erecting yourself on a self-appointed pedestal and peering down on others. It's as bad as speaking of yourself in the third person.

If you're really interested in connecting with others, try talking about your own self as a person - right now you sound like someone who still has not yet integrated spirituality into your own life in a comfortable way...it's like a new pair of shoes you are walking around in, but you really think the shoes are cool and hip, so you're showing them off to everyone.

And as a Taurus rising myself (and Mars Taurus), I can assure you that authenticity is a cherished trait.
So I would urge you to drop the facade and speak of yourself humbly.

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posted August 30, 2009 05:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message
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. . it seems as though you are erecting yourself on a self-appointed pedestal and peering down on others. It's as bad as speaking of yourself in the third person.
Oh I don't know, MVM -- Zala likes to speak of herself in the 3rd person sometimes
As for the above, it seems to me more like that verb should be "pi$$ing down on others" -- 'Condescending' is putting it mildly.....
And I wonder how many followers "Master" Zero can possibly command when he detests anyone not Taurus or Cancer rising??
Pedestals can be hurtful and even deadly -- whether you put someone else up on one, or assign yourself some exalted position to better pee(r) down on and 'test' the rabble -- but who knows, perhaps the choice of life on a self-imposed pedestal could accomplish a common fanatics' dream: martyrdom.....

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MyVirgoMask
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posted August 30, 2009 07:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
MVM approves of Ms. Zala speaking in the third person... nay, I urge it in your case

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cpn_edgar_winner
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posted August 31, 2009 02:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cpn_edgar_winner     Edit/Delete Message
ok, so why would you claim to be a god,and a god of peace at that...and choose a name like zeromus....which means in part.

"Honoring the law more than any other, a scion of holy order and condemner of criminals. Created in opposition to Knight-Star Pashtarot, scion of light. He turns his deep, abiding hatred for those who break the law into living darkness, therein to plunge the guilty in fell judgment. Over time, he came to care less for upholding the law and more for condemnation, and so tainted by hate, he sought to condemn the gods themselves to death. Thus, did he earn the title "The Condemner", and thus did he fall from grace."

which also represents the sign cancer..

zeromus is an evil entity. so why would you claim to be a god and choose the name zeromus?


and why would you claim to be a god and want relations with a human? taurus asc or not.

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posted August 31, 2009 03:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cpn_edgar_winner     Edit/Delete Message
principal beliefs:
Ahura Mazda is the beginning and the end, the creator of everything which can and cannot be seen, the Eternal, the Pure and the only Truth. In the Gathas, the most sacred texts of Zoroastrianism thought to have been composed by Zoroaster himself, the prophet acknowledged devotion to no other divinity besides Ahura Mazda.

Daena (din in modern Persian) is the eternal Law, whose order was revealed to humanity through the Mathra-Spenta ("Holy Words"). Daena has been used to mean religion, faith, law, even as a translation for the Hindu and Buddhist term Dharma, often interpreted as "duty" but can also mean social order, right conduct, or virtue. The metaphor of the 'path' of Daena is represented in Zoroastrianism by the muslin undershirt Sudra, the 'Good/Holy Path', and the 72-thread Kushti girdle, the "Pathfinder".

Daena should not be confused with the fundamental principle asha (Vedic rta), the equitable law of the universe, which governed the life of the ancient Indo-Iranians. For these, asha was the course of everything observable, the motion of the planets and astral bodies, the progression of the seasons, the pattern of daily nomadic herdsman life, governed by regular metronomic events such as sunrise and sunset. All physical creation (geti) was thus determined to run according to a master plan — inherent to Ahura Mazda — and violations of the order (druj) were violations against creation, and thus violations against Ahura Mazda. This concept of asha versus the druj should not be confused with the good-versus-evil battle evident in western religions, for although both forms of opposition express moral conflict, the asha versus druj concept is more systemic and less personal, representing, for instance, chaos (that opposes order); or "uncreation", evident as natural decay (that opposes creation); or more simply "the lie" (that opposes truth, righteousness). Moreover, in his role as the one uncreated creator of all, Ahura Mazda is not the creator of druj which is "nothing", anti-creation, and thus (likewise) uncreated. Thus, in Zoroaster's revelation, Ahura Mazda was perceived to be the creator of only the good (Yasna 31.4), the "supreme benevolent providence" (Yasna 43.11), that will ultimately triumph (Yasna 48.1).


A Parsi Wedding, 1905. In this schema of asha versus druj, mortal beings (humans and animals both) play a critical role, for they too are created. Here, in their lives, they are active participants in the conflict and it is their duty to defend order, which would decay without counteraction. Throughout the Gathas, Zoroaster emphasizes deeds and actions, and accordingly asceticism is frowned upon in Zoroastrianism. In later Zoroastrianism this was explained as fleeing from the experiences of life, which was the very purpose that the urvan (most commonly translated as the 'soul') was sent into the mortal world to collect. The avoidance of any aspect of life, which includes the avoidance of the pleasures of life, is a shirking of the responsibility and duty to oneself, one's urvan, and one's family and social obligations.

Thus, central to Zoroastrianism is the emphasis on moral choice, to choose between the responsibility and duty for which one is in the mortal world, or to give up this duty and so facilitate the work of druj. Similarly, predestination is rejected in Zoroastrian teaching. Humans bear responsibility for all situations they are in, and in the way they act to one another. Reward, punishment, happiness and grief all depend on how individuals live their life.

In Zoroastrianism, good transpires for those who do righteous deeds. Those who do evil have themselves to blame for their ruin. Zoroastrian morality is then to be summed up in the simple phrase, "good thoughts, good words, good deeds" (Humata, Hukhta, Hvarshta in Avestan), for it is through these that asha is maintained and druj is kept in check.

Through accumulation several other beliefs were introduced to the religion that in some instances supersede those expressed in the Gathas. In the late 19th century the moral and immoral forces came to be represented by Spenta Mainyu and its Satanic antithesis Angra Mainyu, the 'good spirit' and 'evil spirit' emanations of Ahura Mazda respectively. Although the names are old, this opposition is a modern western-influenced development popularized by Martin Haug in the 1880s, and was in effect a realignment of the precepts of Zurvanism (Zurvanite Zoroastrianism), which had invented a third deity, Zurvan, in order to explain a mention of twinship (Yasna 30.3) between the moral and immoral. Although Zurvanism had died out by the 10th century the critical question of the "twin brothers" mentioned in Yasna 30.3 remained, and Haug's explanation provided a convenient defence against Christian missionaries who disparaged the Parsis (Indian Zoroastrians; originally Iranians that migrated to India and retained their Zoroastrian faith) for their 'dualism'. Haug's concept was subsequently disseminated as a Parsi interpretation, thus corroborating Haug's theory and the idea became so popular that it is now almost universally accepted as doctrine.

Achaemenid era (648–330 BCE) Zoroastrianism developed the abstract concepts of heaven, hell, personal and final judgment, all of which are only alluded to in the Gathas. Yasna 19 (which has only survived in a Sassanid era (226–650 CE) Zend commentary on the Ahuna Vairya invocation), prescribes a Path to Judgment known as the Chinvat Peretum or Chinvat bridge (cf: As-Sirât in Islam), which all souls had to cross, and judgment (over thoughts, words, deeds performed during a lifetime) was passed as they were doing so. However, the Zoroastrian personal judgment is not final. At the end of time, when evil is finally defeated, all souls will be ultimately reunited with their Fravashi. Thus, Zoroastrianism can be said to be a universalist religion with respect to salvation.

In addition, and strongly influenced by Babylonian and Akkadian practices, the Achaemenids popularized shrines and temples, hitherto alien forms of worship. In the wake of Achaemenid expansion shrines were constructed throughout the empire and particularly influenced the role of Mithra, Aredvi Sura Anahita, Verethregna and Tishtrya, all of which, in addition to their original (proto-)Indo-Iranian functions, now also received Perso-Babylonian functions.

Although the worship of images would eventually fall out of favour (and be replaced by the iconoclastic fire temples), the lasting legacy of the Achaemenids was a vast, complex hierarchy of Yazatas (modern Zoroastrianism's Angels) that were now not just evident in the religion, but firmly established, not least because the divinities received dedications in the Zoroastrian calendar, thus ensuring that they were frequently invoked. Additionally, the Amesha Spenta, the six originally abstract terms that were regarded as direct emanations or aspects or "divine sparks" of Ahura Mazda, came to be personified as an archangel retinue

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posted September 04, 2009 09:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Valus     Edit/Delete Message
This is so sad.

I dont wanna be accused of "astro-racism" but I can't help thinking its not coincidental that this person has all his/her personal and social planets in the first six signs and houses. He/She hasn't even begun to delve outside his/her personal sphere. Fact of the matter. Those outer-planet aspects can only come to no good, most likely.

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posted September 04, 2009 11:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message
Oh, for some reason I thought Homer was the true chosen one of The Stonecutters. Damn! I need to get my information straight.

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posted September 04, 2009 11:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cpn_edgar_winner     Edit/Delete Message
holy crap on a stick batman!

i missed you.
i need you.

so very happy to see you back.
god pa, you have no idea.

it was like the fun part of my life has been missing.

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posted September 04, 2009 12:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message
I don't know cpn - I'm not feeling the love. I mean, me and my Aries rising - and the rest of the, what?, 6.235 billion people rejected in this thread. It hurts.

I just heard my name being called and then something about god of peace and I started to get territorial (Mars in Taurus and all). It's purely self-serving you know.

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posted September 04, 2009 12:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cpn_edgar_winner     Edit/Delete Message
i for one will humbly restore you to your pedestal..

(that is saying a lot coming from me)

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posted September 04, 2009 12:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks cpn. The Order of The Phallic Leapfrog and I thank you sincerely. We only wish for the spread of all things good upon this Earth. Of course, I only say that because I'm the last living kind and really, I'm just here for world domination. But don't tell anyone. Oh, ahhh, yeah........ **** !

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posted September 04, 2009 12:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cpn_edgar_winner     Edit/Delete Message
and you picked the best thread to hijack ever!

girl you still got it.

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posted September 04, 2009 12:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cpn_edgar_winner     Edit/Delete Message
i bow to Order of The Phallic leapfrong, and while i'm on my knees....well....

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posted September 04, 2009 01:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message
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and you picked the best thread to hijack ever!
girl you still got it.

I also bow to the Order of the Phallic Leapfrog, and clamor for entrance into the temple!!
That is, as long as I'm the correct rising sign.....

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