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seeker3030
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posted January 07, 2010 02:50 PM
 
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katatonic
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posted January 09, 2010 02:16 PM
you are practically twins! you were even born within a few miles of each other...i would bet you feel a lot of synchronicity and sympathy. whether this last or not, hard to say. the sun/ac and moon/ic are interesting echoes, but in the composite the sun and moon are not in aspect (well semisextile, which can be quite difficulat actually but not hugely influential) which would make me wonder how much depth there is to the relationship despite the "snap" all those conjunctions will bring up...sun in third and mars in 9th make me think this is more mentally stimulating than anything else...? IP: Logged |
seeker3030
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posted January 10, 2010 05:47 AM
You're so right re the being practically twins!!  There is such a meeting of minds and feelings here and we do feel like 'peas in a pod' as we've coined it. His Eros conjuncts my Psyche too which I've read could be an indicator of soul mates and I just feel I'm meant to be with him - although as you say I don't know how easy it would be long term to be with someone who conjuncts you so much... bit like looking in a mirror which is fine for the things you like but the things you're not so keen on perhaps  Still it's worth exploring for all the affinity between us Thank you xxIP: Logged |
katatonic
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posted January 10, 2010 06:24 PM
if you like it, go for it. one step at a time tends to work for most situations!IP: Logged |
DD
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posted January 12, 2010 03:16 PM
Let me tell you what I see:You have a DW Moon-IC-conjunction 
Your Sun conjunct his ASC exactly
your Mercury conjunct his Sun
Your Venus conjunct his Mercury and Eros
Your Neptune conjunct his Psyche
All these aspects seem to speak loudly of a soul-connection, a lot of familiarity and maybe even a telepathic connection.
You have a DW Moon-IC-conjunction:
You touch each other`s deepest core; maybe it even feels like a family-connection, or even closer, more intimate than that. As if you share one soul, or at least as if your souls are very deeply entangled in each other (can souls be entangled?)
Your Sun conjunct his ASC exactly
This speaks of a lot of familiarity, too, but in a more physical sense almost (his ASC is his physicality). Also, personally I feel that soulmates will always have at least one strong aspect to ASC (maybe I would even go so far to say, they have to have a conjunction to ASC or DESC, maybe IC and MC would suffice, too). In your case it is the Sun, the centre of our galaxy. It`s really a strong one.
"our Mercury conjunct his Sun"
Good for communication. You understand him, are interested in him and like to talk to him, and he encourages your intellectual tendencies (of course I am interpreting the aspects here in a pretty isolated way)
Your Venus conjunct his Mercury and Eros
Another good one for communication. You love his mind. Maybe you also feel that his voice is very appealing. Maybe both of you like to talk in really flirtative but sweet and pleasant way to each other.
The Venus-Eros-conjunction adds spice. He is strongly attracted to your feminine ways. And you love it.
Your Neptune conjunct his Psyche
This could very well be a sign of an almost telepathic connection.
At least it is very spiritual, compassionate and forgiving. You have great compassion for his vulnerable sides, and maybe he feels so comfortable that he would share them more easily with you, because he feels that you wouldn´t hurt him.
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seeker3030
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posted January 12, 2010 05:04 PM
DD WOW!!!! You are spot on with everything even down to the fact I do love his voice!!! Very warm, smiley with loads of optimism and openess... and with a slight London accent which always gets me going haha!  Yes I think we do share a telepathic link - I've lost count of the times now that I've picked up my phone just as he texts or that I log on to FB just as he messages me. It's like a silver chord that you just have to tug lightly and the other is there. I know it's a soul connection and maybe the astrology doesn't quite support it (no Venus/Mars or Venus/Pluto conjunctions and no Sun/Moon conjunctions either) but I've read the posts about how you know when you've met your twin flame and a great deal of it feels so pertinent to this connection so far. Will just have to be patient and take one step at a time and see where it takes us. Saturn's in our sign at the moment so it's clearly placing things before us to test us and teach us. I feel very entangled with him but in a positive way lol! ;D So far it's been very cerebral but with such a meeting of souls/hearts too - feels like we can discuss and tell each other everything. The comment you made about the way we talk to each other was so correct it was spooky!! Thanks so much for your help with interpreting everything - I'm still learning so much about it all and sometimes things just pass me by! x IP: Logged |
Deux*Antares
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posted January 16, 2010 09:26 AM
I just noticed he has Chiron in 7th house and that your Chiron falls in his 7th. As a side note: My Libra guy's chart is a bit similar to your guy's: Sun and Uranus in 1st house and Pluto in 12th house, and he has Chiron in 7th and my Chiron falls in his 7th, too. I suggest you read the Chiron article I posted in Astro 2.0 so you will understand this placement better. What I can tell you from personal experience is that the one whose Chiron falls in the 7th house of a partner has the potential to either help heal that person's "wounds" (in the area of partnerships/relationships because it's in the 7th) OR make those wounds worse. The difference between your case and my case is that my guy's Sun-Moon conjunction was directly opposite my Chiron, so when I unconsciously made his wounds worse my own wounds were activated, too. LOL. I think your guy's sun is not in opposition to his Chiron, so no worries. But just to be sure can you write the exact degrees of your Chiron and his Uranus and Sun? In a nutshell, my advice to you is just tread carefully and treat this guy with utmost compassion and unconditional love so you won't step on his Chiron issues. IP: Logged |
seeker3030
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posted January 16, 2010 10:06 AM
Thanks Deux Antares - yes I certainly will be careful He's such a sweet soul - sensitive and caring, and I feel very protective towards him. These are the degrees you asked for I think... My Chiron 18'56 Aries
His Sun 29'38 Libra
His Urnaus 23'49 Libra I think he's his own worst enemy (aren't we all!) sometimes bless him. He can't seem to hold down a job and enjoys his vices perhpas a little too much My Cappy Moon would lose patience eventually I think and that's partly why I said in my other thread that 'if circumstances ever allow' I would be thrilled if we got together. I have a young son and although I know Tim would never be anything but loving and caring towards him, he perhaps wouldn't be the most reliable role model for a growing boy. I love Tim with all my heart and that includes seeing him as he really is, warts and all. We could be together one day in a casual sense but I don't think we'd ever live together or share responsibilities. I don't want to change him - he's entitled to be who he is and do what he wants. I am happy to love him and see where life takes both of us. IP: Logged |
DD
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posted January 16, 2010 11:00 AM
I am glad I was right about so many things.
"Very warm, smiley with loads of optimism and openess... and with a slight London accent which always gets me going haha!"
Oh yes, I can understand that. I love this kind of voices, too.
"I know it's a soul connection"
Maybe you want to look at the Draconic synastry, especially tight conjunctions of Draco to tropical, then?
"and maybe the astrology doesn't quite support it (no Venus/Mars or Venus/Pluto conjunctions and no Sun/Moon conjunctions either)"
There is actually more to soulconnections than these aspects.
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seeker3030
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posted January 16, 2010 01:08 PM
Hi DD and yep you were spot on with so much!Forgive my ignorance as I'm new to Draconic charts and fairly new to comparing synastry aspects too, but do I compare our individual Draconic charts to our individual and/or synastry charts and see if there are tight aspects between? Sorry... just want to make sure I'm doing it right! Got to be honest he's puzzled me somewhat yesterday/today. Seems to have retreated a little. What contact we have had was nice but didn't feel his usual need to connect. I know we all have days where we just want to be by ourselves with our own thoughts but I'm wondering if he's had a change of heart. Ah well, he's still quite the most lovely person I've ever met so I shan't give up hope and lose faith just yet Thanks again DD  IP: Logged |
seeker3030
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posted January 17, 2010 06:29 AM
From what I can see from comparing my Draconic to his natal we have the following:My Draco Sun trine his natal Moon
My Draco Venus oppose his natal Mars
My Draco Mars Trine his natal Venus
My Draco Moon is in his DC and is sign conjunct his Chiron
My Draco Chiron is opposite his natal Moon
His natal North Node falls within my Draconic IC
My Draco Asc is conjunct his Asc and sign conjunct his Sun
Mr Draco Jupiter is conjunct his natal Mars and oppose his natal Merc.
My Draco Jupiter is Trine his natal Moon
My Draco Valentine is sign conjunct his natal Venus and Psyche
My Draco Juno is in his natal 5th
My Draco Saturn is conjunct his natal Moon
My Draco Jupiter is conjunct his natal Mars His Draconic Draco MC conjuncts my natal Sun
Draco Asc conjuncts my natal Moon
My natal Asc falls in the middle of his Draconic DC
Draco Valentine sign conjuncts my natal Neptune
Draco Mars trines my Venus
Draco Venus sextiles my Mars
Draco Chiron Trines my natal Venus and Merc
Draco Chiron is conjunct my natal Asc and sign conjunct my natal Saturn
Draco Jupiter conjunct my natal Mars
Draco Jupiter Trines my natal Moon and opposes my natal Venus and Merc.
Draco Juno trines my Asc and my Venus/Merc
Draco Saturn conjuncts my natal Mars
Draco Eros and Psyche square my natal Eros and Psyche
Draco Vertex is exactly conjunct my natal ASC ... Also just calculated that his natal Sun/Moon Midpoint exactly conjuncts my natal sun. I still don't quite understand the Draconic chart and its significance however. More reading to do me thinks!
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DD
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posted January 17, 2010 01:34 PM
I would focus on the conjunctions and oppositions first.
My Draco Venus oppose his natal Mars
My Draco Chiron is opposite his natal Moon
My Draco Asc is conjunct his Asc and sign conjunct his Sun
Mr Draco Jupiter is conjunct his natal Mars and oppose his natal Merc.
y Draco Saturn is conjunct his natal Moon
My Draco Jupiter is conjunct his natal Mars
His Draconic Draco MC conjuncts my natal Sun
Draco Asc conjuncts my natal Moon
Draco Chiron is conjunct my natal Asc and
Draco Jupiter conjunct my natal Mars
my natal Moon and opposes my natal Venus and Merc.
Draco Saturn conjuncts my natal Mars
Draco Vertex is exactly conjunct my natal ASC
There seem to be quite some significant aspects.
I noticed you have a mutual Mars-Jupiter-conjunction, with both your Draco Jupiters.
That seems to me like you could have much fun together and being encouraging and supportive of each other, especially if it comes to activities.
"I still don't quite understand the Draconic chart and its significance however. More reading to do me thinks!" There are some different theories out there, I think most her interprete it in terms of karma / past life scenearios, which are definitely in there. But personally I think the Dracos are more than that. My thoughts were that the Dracos will reflect the nature of the nodal axis, since they are calculated with it.
The nodal axis on the other hand combines the influences of Sun, Moon and earth (I think it clearly is not coincidental, that there is yet again a trinity, just like in the theory of twinflame-twinflame-creator / Source). The Sun is the archetypical masculine, Yang, the power of expression.
The Moon is the archetypical feminine, Yin, the power of reception.
The Sun is SPIRIT, the Moon is SOUL. One withhout the other is not complete (Of course as humans we ARE complete inside, as we have both Sun and Moon), but together they are complete in the sense, that they bring two complimentary, yet equally valuable pieces, together. Spirit and Soul. The Earth now is the connecting thing. Earth is the place it all happens, the place of our in-carnation.
So maybe we can translate the meaning of the Draconic like this:
SPIRIT (Sun) and SOUL (Moon) join and are are manifested in physical form / anchored in the physical dimension (Earth).
The Dracos seem to signify a deeper SOUL LEVEL, maybe even a closer connection to Higher SElf, but in the least they are indicative of what the nodal axis is about, the past you have come from and the purpose / direction of your path.
If there are connections from DRaco to tropical there may be a joining, a bridging of Spiritual (Draco) with the physical manifestation (tropical) IP: Logged |
seeker3030
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posted January 17, 2010 03:34 PM
Thank you so much DD that's really helped! Yes we are very supportive and encouraging of each other which is a lovely aspect - you feel like you're not alone and that anything you try is fine and cheered on by the other. Thanks again for helping me understand everything more clearly xx IP: Logged |
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posted January 18, 2010 04:47 AM
I am glad I could help.Personally I like that Mars-Jupiter aspect very much. It may not be so romantic, but there is much of a dynamic friendship here. IP: Logged |
seeker3030
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posted January 24, 2010 03:28 PM
Well it seems I might have mistaken a very friendly and charming manner, coupled with some lovely words and compliments for love. I'm not the first and I certainly won't be the last I've hardly heard from my friend over the last week and although that in itself isn't puzzling as he could just be busy, he seemed to be actively avoiding me yesterday which hurt quite a bit. I'm posting this because I suppose I just need to get out my disappointment, exactly as I felt I had to express my elation at the beginning of it all. I think we'll always be friends which is a wonderful thing that I'm very grateful for. It's only that a dream has died rather a sudden and mysterious death and it takes you a moment to get used to its passing and accept/move on. Hey ho. Life goes on and there's so much more to think about and learn. Onwards! IP: Logged |
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