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starzy54
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posted February 28, 2010 08:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starzy54     Edit/Delete Message
I find it a little funny how everyone mentions the same thing,about The Pisces doing little or no work in the relationship.The males that is.

Fortunately my Pisces guy put a lot of the work into the beginning of our union.Doing the initial pursuing and "chasing"Which meant a tremendous amount to me,being an old fashion,hard to get Cappy.

Now after two and half years,I would say the work is divided into equal parts.Some nights he is Casanova and others he might need a little push.

His chart is little different in some departments.Pisces only falls under his sun and Mercury.While his moon is in Gemini.His mars is in Scorpio and Venus is in Aquarius.
I have a moon in Aries so i think i naturally put a little extra aggressiveness into the romance naturally.He hasn't been disappointed with that as of yet.

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posted March 01, 2010 01:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GypseeWind     Edit/Delete Message
Well, the Pisces that I speak of did do the initial chasing. I mean, he walked into where I was working and he told me that he said to himself, "whoa, she is way out of my league, but I'm going for it anyway!" So, he proceeded to charm me that whole night and we were together from there on out until we were parted by circumstances beyond either of our control.

It's just that NOW, trying to have an internet thing going with him, he's more, reticent about it. He said once, "I just don't have the energy to keep up with you, and to worry about whether I've written today, and should I log on and look for you, etc.. "

But, my Pisces is probably, I'm assuming alot older then yours. Mine is 47 this week, and he says he feels like he's 147, so, maybe that is the difference.

But, even so, with his back and forth thing, he is very super selective about who he lets into his life, and who gets to stay in it. So, I give him his space, like Hippichick says, to swim. If he doesn't email me for a few days, i've learned not to take it personal. At first I did, and I was b!tching and moaning about it, and that was NOT going over well, because I don't think Pisces likes to be pressured. Once I realized that he would come back around, and I trusted that process, the relationship has become alot easier.

I just wrote him a note not 5 minutes ago, telling him how much I appreciate his presence in my life, because he is like a warm sea, and once you've swam in the sea, nothing else really compares, which I'm sure you get my meaning there.

He is magical. They are magical.

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posted March 01, 2010 02:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starzy54     Edit/Delete Message
Its really nice to find a happy medium with them.Its a learning experiences with Pisces males.

Since me and my Pisces live far apart for the time being we too chat online/email and phone.
He can be sorta quiet at times.So I've become accustom to short intervals of lively conversations,which i tend to end,while we are ahead.Since he can get quiet and spacey during long talks etc.
Giving them space,makes them feel free to swim and go and come as they please.Hopefully we set enough bait for them to come back to a warm inviting and non judgmental pond.
My Pisces turns 26 this week.Happy birthday to them =)

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posted March 02, 2010 12:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GypseeWind     Edit/Delete Message
"short intervals of lively conversations" YES! That is exactly it to a "T."

I notice he always says he has to go first. Maybe I should once in awhile, I'm just always so happy to speak with him, I try to stay on as long as possible. But, he'll be very lively in his conversation, and they say he has to go abruptly. I am starting to think this is because he is worried that he doesn't have anything interesting (to him) left to say, so he quits while he is ahead.

Wow, fascinating creatures.

Mine is having his b-day thurs. He has great transits coming up, and I'm very happy for him

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posted March 02, 2010 06:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for wheels of cheese     Edit/Delete Message
Ooh Pisces men.

Re the women doing all the work in the relationship.

Only recently have I come to realise this is not the case. What I have found with my Pisces man (who has Sun, Mercury, Mars, Saturn and Chiron in Pisces) is that you will never have a direct apology if you raise issues with him such as "You're taking me for granted, you have bad manners and don't say thank you for meals I cook for you and the many things I do for you, you buy me a box of chocolates for my birthday when I got you a rare book, which shows a lack of thought especially because you ate the chocolates yourself" and stuff like that.... (yes, he really did eat them himself!).

However what I do notice is a distinct change in his behaviour, which is what counts. And what I have started to do is not be so confrontational when I am raising issues like this, I tend to make a joke out of them but my message is unequivocal - shape up or I'm shipping out.

This has worked wonders. I know now that he doesn't want to lose me. I have been "letting go" and being involved in my own life, my own pursuits, my own friends and also, accepting my own capacity for fishy behaviour, which includes the possibility that I could bugger off with another person, or go off on my own at the drop of a hat if I am being treated disrespectfully. Me, like my Pisces both share a Gemini moon, plus my 7th is ruled by Pisces, plus my Venus conjuncts Neptune (I am a Libra Sun so this is fairly important). So I have learned to be more tuned in to my own inner Pisces.

And once the Piscean intuited this, as they do, and he knows I mean it, he has upped his behaviour and now I think we are stronger than ever. He does as much for me as I do for him. He has completely changed my worldview in regard to what a relationship actually is. Now I am completely content with the thought that this might not last forever and even just having that thought and behaving that thought has seemed to make the possibility that this could last more possible. Does this make sense? I don't own him and he's free to go whenever and wherever he likes, I really understand that right now - and as long as I can look after myself he is not burdened with the "responsibility" of me. It makes everything better. Don't attempt to put boundaries around the relationship - it don't be working. Though ground rules are fine, my only one is that we are exclusive to each other sexually, and that we are honest.

Seems to be working fine right now at least!

The other night we had a great big long cuddle and I felt for the first time "This love feels really pure, it feels really easy and it feels like we are not taking too much from each other anymore. Whatever I am giving and receiving from you is good. Whatever happens to us as a couple and as individuals is what happens and I will accept it". We've had cuddles before but this one was different, it felt like telepathy. So when he said about it a few days later "That cuddle was really different wasn't it, it didn't feel like any other one we'd had.. you know?" and then trailed off a bit. Amazing in itself because he rarely talks about his feelings, they are kept hidden. I knew what he meant. Pisces moments like that ARE magic.

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posted March 02, 2010 07:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for wheels of cheese     Edit/Delete Message
Oh, and just another related point, if you are dealing with a Pisces who has Mars in Pisces, and you get that Mars energy expressed in a "drip drip drip" fashion. Don't be under any illusion that Pisces Mars is weak in any way - water can dissolve rock over millennia, it is my opinion that Pisces Mars is the strongest of them all. What you do is joke to your Pisces that he is a nag. They hate to be nagged because it interferes with their freedom, but they will do it to others continually wihout realising and when it's pointed out to them they do take heed. Radical change of behaviour!

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posted March 02, 2010 02:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GypseeWind     Edit/Delete Message
Yep, I know exactly what you mean about not thinking it's going to be forever, or at least letting that notion go, it changes ALOT.

Mine has Leo in Mars. lol. He does take a hissy fit now and then.

But, here is something else I noticed...
Pisces do things in a very symbolic way. And, you have to learn to discern these things, because, as women, we are conditioned to speak our hearts more than make people read between the lines, not so with Pisces.

Ok, so things are different, obviously, in my case because we are 900 miles apart, which IMHO is very difficult for Pisces, and he has said as much.
But, ex...
There was this woman, who kept posting in his comments on myspace. She was one of those who uses it as an internet dating service or whatever. Her profile came from lusty.com so, yeah.
Anyway, EVERYTIME I would comment something, she would comment right after me. It was ridiculous, felt like two male dogs peeing on "their" tree.
So, I asked him who she was, and he said, he didnt know, he never met her, she just friend requested, and he accepted, and she had been commenting every since. I said, "oh."

A day or two later, she was gone out of his friends, and all her comments were removed. I never asked or said to do this, he just did it, which I thought said something quite remarkable about him.

Then, he decided to join FB, because he said, he wanted to be where I was, when I wasn't on myspace.
Another major issue, because his ex-wife is a stalker, and he said he would never have a FB, cause that's what she uses.
But he did it.

And, what I mean by symbolic, is that he will post up songs, and I know that they are messages specifically to me.
Other people will comment on his songs, and he won't say a word, and then I will comment on them, and he will acknowledge. It's like a private thing in a public place. Very sweet and very romantic.

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posted March 02, 2010 04:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starzy54     Edit/Delete Message
Wanted to bring up another lesson learned on my part regarding the Pisces male.
He has made me a much better and more understanding person! Before I usually put my own needs in front of others,and I wasn't even aware I was doing this.He's shown me not to be such a needy person all the time.

Example:We were chatting once, a few months into our relationship.He became a little distant (from my perspective)I became a little passive aggressive and didn't mention anything about it for a few days.He than repeated this episode of "distance".I blew up
a little and accused him of being bored with me.I basically said "Why don't you talk with me!" He looked at me with those watery Pisces eyes,almost childlike in a way,and said with an eternal wisdom I could never have, "I'm sorry,I just can't think of anything to say right now".

His truthful honesty made me take a step backwards and I had an almost out of body experience.I saw myself being needy and crossing personal space boundaries.I realized how childish i was being.With those little words of his,I learned to not want and need so much,and I learned to be happy and comfortable in our small little episodes of silence.Needing constant chatter to re-assure me of the state of our bliss,was unrealistic.We can both be happy and share romance just as well without all the talking.Its those times i just settle in a little nudge under his shoulder.Or even quietly admire him from a distance.


I kinda check into my guys little online posts.He isn't too aware of that (hehe)
They almost always include some kind of reference to our favorite songs,or how he loves his memories of NYC (where we met)
He's romantic and doesn't even know it!

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posted March 02, 2010 09:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message
hi ladies!

finally off work, will get back to this after some algebra in the morn...

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posted March 05, 2010 05:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message
Pisces men DO chase, (so do Pisces ladies ) course depending on what other factors are present in their astro makeup and how a lady interprets "chasing!"

I was chased, by my Pisces fellow, and with all his Aries attributes and all his FIre, still one would have to look.

Testosterone is testosterone and that is that!!! nuf said? ?

Really, tho, it may not be obvious, overt chasing, however, far be it from the Fish to not know how to fish!

And they do, do work (at relationships) related to chasing, mine does work and when I remind him that he is "neglecting" me, boy how does he work. But it is kind of emotional work, kind of like...."awww...where did she go??? all of a sudden, (while I was swimming) where did she go??? and what do I need to do to get her back (testosterone comes in) "

On the flipside, being a Fish female, I have done most of the work in relationships in the past, but in my latter years, heck no!

Mostly for now, just realize that we are all of what we are made of. We are not just Pisces, but we (like I think I have said before here recently) are the product of many things, our astrological make-ups our up-bringings, our immediate surroundings.

Sorry, there is just no way to pin point us down we are too wiggly. We change and then we change again.

But our souls are very loving and faithful, for those who love the Pisces and I do mean truely love the Pisces will have a friend/lover for life.

I re-member once, I was 6 years old and my grandpa took me fishing in Michigan...now, I never liked fishing, cept for being near/on the water, but I caught my first Fish, a shiny Perch and my grandpa promptly hit it upon the head to stun it so we could clean it and eat it later. But that is the only way to put a Fish down, stun her anyway, cause we will always find a way to swim...just in our nature.

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posted March 06, 2010 06:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vapor-lash     Edit/Delete Message
wheels of cheese, you mentioned their reaction if you tell them off for something.

I've never done this.

I always pouted, looked sad. Sat in a corner, refusing to eat and drink, and told him I couldn't feel my body and felt cold.

Twice when he did something that seriously bothered me - I woke up in the middle of the night screaming and "crying" telling him I had a horrible nightmare.. and how *that* particular event with him (what he did wrong) reminded me of something very painful in my childhood --- all made up (ya, I'm a biatch lol)

I never said: "You did me wrong! Change please."

I always said: "You accidentally caused me so much pain. I'm not upset with you - I understand.. I'm just in pain now - and I need some time to heal.."

*insert sensual loving stare..*

I *might* have a Cancer AC which would explain my manipulative behavior lol Or the Mars-Neptune conjunction (acting predisposition? lol)

It worked really well.. I must say.

And I agree with those who said they *do* chase. Both Pisces had their Mars on my Venus and Aries placements (I'm an Aries Sun with Pisces placements). Only one of them was long-lasting.
I also know other Pisces who I'm friends with and they occasionally make a pass lol

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posted March 06, 2010 06:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vapor-lash     Edit/Delete Message
Interestingly with my Pisces best friend (female) - we don't lie to each other at all. We know everything about the other person. I've known her for over a decade

With Pisces men.. lies always fly back and forth.. I have a fairly strong Neptunian streak so I'm more likely to join the Piscean's Hollywood production.. and lie myself.. rather than ask him to be more honest.

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posted March 06, 2010 11:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cardinal Arbiter     Edit/Delete Message
Just thought I'd check in for some vanity or whatever, overviewed the the reason for posting, and then noticed that the Pisces in question had the same birthday (excluding year) as I, and I felt compelled to reply. I've never met anyone with the same birthday as me. And I know everyone I know to any extent's birthday. And remember it. Then I read some of the other replies, of past experiences, to which I say touche, life is.

What you have to come to is that you're not supposed to want us. We embrace life and time, and lasting partnership isn't ideal.

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Pisces Sun, Libra Moon, Scorpio Ascendant..
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posted March 06, 2010 11:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GypseeWind     Edit/Delete Message
Oh, Cardinal! My pisces has a Scorpio Asc too! But his Moon is in Cancer.

Tonight we IMed for an hour. He talked about how he was going to come to the state I live in, and pick me up. He said he wants to buy me a house. He said lots and lots of Knight In Shining Armor stuff.

He posted to his FB wall, the song he said he wanted to be played at our wedding.

Now, I probably won't talk to him for days, and I always think well, something must have changed, or whatever.
Then he will be all confused and not understand why just because he didn't respond to my mail, I would think his feelings have changed.

I'm really coming to terms with learning to be in the moment. I think he's here to teach me that, and how to 'go with the flow'.

So, he likes to do these things like read my mind. He does this all the time, it's very...cool! And so, I said, "you are a magic man." Then an hour or so later, he added that song to his myspace playlist. it's just the little things, they mean so much.

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posted March 07, 2010 01:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cardinal Arbiter     Edit/Delete Message
Crazy On You by Heart is my favourite song.

I've got Cancer Mars and my Sun and Mercury are in the 4th house, though conjunct the 5th cusp. That Mars is in the 8th house though conjunct the 9th cusp just for the relevant record.

I have this Scorpio or Libra online, I don't know which, initially she said her birthday was Scorpion, but recently she said her mother just told her her birthday was actually earlier in the month which seems, I don't know, really unlikely? I definitely get the vibe she lies for my satisfaction. Anyway she's called me variably her White Knight or her Knight in Shining Armour, (holy **** , spell check is acknowledging the /real/ English spelling with ou) like 13 times or so. Which is the real reason I was intrigued by this thread. So I could muse over how pathetic society is. And then of course the same birthday was extra shock value. Anyway my view on this instance is I'm trying to heal her, but she's clinging, and I don't have the will to tell her to prod off. And it's not only her, but she's the most attention. Incidentally one of the other ones has the same birthday as the second one she claimed. I can definitely see reasons I wouldn't want to marry or whatever with all of them. My only real crush is on some Sagittarius who transferred to my elementary school in gr. 7, who I've never had the courage to speak with in person.

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posted March 07, 2010 02:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GypseeWind     Edit/Delete Message
She doesn't know her birthday?? How odd is that?

Armour, Armor, whatever, we all know what we are talking about.

I could see the draw to the Scorpio for you.

I'm a sagittarius, so I can see that too. He said, he's never laughed as much as he does talking to me. He said most people pi$$ him off, and he really doesn't even LIKE people, but I'm different, so he says.

As far as you not even speaking to her, we just had this conversation like 20 minutes ago, where he said that had he not been drunk when we first met, he would of never had the courage to speak to me! (coincidence, huh?) Maybe you should drink a few and look her up!

*crazy on you, excellent song

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posted March 07, 2010 09:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cardinal Arbiter     Edit/Delete Message
What's your birthday? Her's is Nov. 27th, and incidentally so is my roommate's girlfriend who he just met when I moved in with him, and it's very serious and intense he says. My roommate's birthday is October 5th, which is one day after my mom's boyfriend's, but I never got to know him, because it was such an awkward relationship, and everyone in my family hates him, as it seems my mom (January 20th) keeps him for sex. October 5th is also the birthday of one of my old friend's father, though I never knew him, my family does. Anyway I get on pretty damn well with Nathan, my roommate, who's been a lot more supportive than he has to be, though sometimes it seems like he is to impress his girlfriend.

At any rate I am very conscious at all times including while drunk, and when I care as much as I do about people, nothing is going to blur lines concerning it, as detrimental as that may be. Like, for example, I've tried it. Maybe if instead of her coming to my school in the small town of 700 I lived at, and being integrated into the society of all preexisting friends, I just met her at a bar or something in a massive city /and/ I was really drunk /and/ she did half the work.. maybe then. It's just beyond my philosophy which cuts itself off, and the ends don't justify the means, so I'm hopeless.

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posted March 08, 2010 02:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GypseeWind     Edit/Delete Message
My birthday is Dec 6th.

I hate that you think it's hopeless, look at my case, it's never hopeless! Timing has alot to do with it, and with a Sag girl, she WILL do lots of the work if she's interested in you!

This Pisces (March 4th) did do the initial hitting on me, but as he sat there, just sort of staring, I was the one that kept the conversation going, just as I am the one that keeps most of them going now, so anything is possible!

Plus we are alot older then you.

But, when we met, I was 20 and he was 23. Now 23 years later, we've found each other again, so, at some point you've got to wonder if destiny plays a part in these things.

I know Pisces often second guess themselves, and you guys can be pretty shy, but don't you know (I mean look at this board here lately!) How interesting you guys are to us women? How very different you are than most men? The mystery and aura about Pisces is a draw for alot of women! So, give us a chance to know you, cause we REALLY want to!

ETA: One of my best guy friends was born, on Nov 27th, I never forget because that is Thanksgiving here. Anyway, he's the same, a very serious guy. I think he must have alot of Scorpio in him, anyway, same thing...problems with his family. Sag's have that alot, because once we are grown, we really aren't that interested in our family anymore. Not to say we don't love them, but there is a deep sense in wanting to pull away, and have a life that is SEPARATE from our families. It's a very difficult, guilt inducing thing, so I'm glad he has you for his roomate. I feel very healed around Pisces people, their energy is soothing to me. After being around one of the many, many, that I know, I always come away with that sense that 'everything is going to be alright' which I love about Pisces. I have Chiron in Pisces, and stuff in all my water houses, so I'm a very water influenced person, anyway)

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posted March 08, 2010 04:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vapor-lash     Edit/Delete Message
Cardinal - Is she still living in that town?

Because as a Saggy girl, if she is - she probably cant wait to get out.

Maybe that "massive city" bar date.. is not impossible or far away

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posted March 08, 2010 10:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message
Knight in shining armour......

I have always said that actions speak louder than words.

I am deathly ill, and very contagious, the doc ordered me out of work for 3 days atleast.

But my Pisces man braved the virus to bring me a Boiled Bun last night and with his heart condition what I have could surely kill him.

Knight in shining armour!

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posted March 08, 2010 12:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GypseeWind     Edit/Delete Message
Ouch, Hippichick, did that alegebra do you in? Hope you feel better soon, love. Sending you chicken soup prayers, and fluffy pillow dreams.

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posted March 08, 2010 01:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for depth     Edit/Delete Message
aww hippichick: dat's like shhoo shweet....
so wat do u want: to remain ill foreva & be taken care of by him or to recover?..:P

em wid a pisces rising dude(nept conj uran in 11th) & he's all soo soft spoken & gentle. he lies a bit here & there to hide his flaws(virgo sun) but the puppy look he gives @ the end of the story is so cute....
we've been in a LDR for 7 months & i haven't got a glimpse of his armor yet but do hope to catch one this summer.

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posted March 09, 2010 04:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for wheels of cheese     Edit/Delete Message
In praise of Pisces men again, a la Hippichick (get well soon hun).

Last week had a TERRIBLE day. Pisces dragged me back to his lair, put me in the bath and said "Have a cry, I know you want to, and in there you can pretend you're not because that's what I know you do" (ha!), and he put sandalwood in it, then got me out, dried my hair for me, put me by the fire and gave me some dinner, then put me to bed with a candle and a book, then got into bed himself later on and put his palm on my forehead for a bit.

Sweet, subtle, beautiful Piscean men.

Cardinal, ^^^ what Gypsee said about Piscean men. I find them the most fascinating people.

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Aww, sweetness Wheels, I knew this renovation would draw you even closer! I just knew it!

My Pisces has started a new job on Monday. He has the largest contract right now in the Dallas/Fort Worth area, even so, he's held my virtual hand through all this baby stuff with my daughter, since his daughter had a baby a year ago, and he says he knows just how I feel.

I find this really telling of the difference between him and my Scorp ex, who hasn't been bothered to even call and inquire about her, when HE has physically been IN her life since she was 15. I sent him a specific text that she was being induced, and wanted him to send her a text of encouragement, yet he can't be selfless enough to do that right now, cause he is in a bad mood. Pfft!!

Mr. Pisces has never even met my daughter, but he has been there with me, answering IM's and texts in the night. Difference between a boy and a man I guess!!

Your lucky Wheels, and Hippichick, maybe someday, I'll live in a close enough proxemity to be able to be drug to his lair as well.

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posted March 10, 2010 08:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message
wheeels, depth and gypsee, thank you

gypsee, the algebra did not get me down, but i got so far behind for a 5 week internet course, i had to drop...darn, when i am well again, will spend the rest of the semester gardening.

gypsee your pisces man sounds like a wonderful dad. mine once became mister mom, while attending college while the ex wore the pants, and this was his most memorable time in life.

another wonderful pisces father that comes to mind is a dad of my eldest's friend. this man stood by his women while, she, with colon cancer, sat home and purchased everything on tv shopping, had an affair, bought a coffin, had it stored in the garage, and stole from her eldest (also a pisces, my kid's friend), and he worked two jobs just to pay for her health care! when she finally passed, which was inevetable the entire time she was up to her shenanigans, he promptly took over mister mom of an 18 and pregnant 16 year old, both girls. a good man indeed! some would think stupid, but stood by his family.

blessings, ya'all

t~~~

ps to enter a pisces bachelor's lair is more than interesting!!!

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