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darkstar
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posted March 07, 2010 04:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for darkstar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i began having a secret relationship with a scoprio woman a few months ago. she had a boyfriend that was away and we had known each other for around a year and we both really liked each other but neither of us had come out and said it. it was absolutely wonderful how close we became we were passionately in love with one another. she always told me she was leaving her boyfriend to be with me. she said she would just stop making time for him and have him leave her. well i had to go away for an extended period of time on business and the first few weeks were fine. but she became distant and eventually wasnt returning my calls. i finally talked to her and we got into a big argument and i said some hurtful things that i now regret and really ****** her off. now she's totally ignoring me. the argument happened about 3 months ago. i really miss her alot we had such a good connection. and being so far away makes everything worse for me. my question is how forgiving are scorpio women. do they stay mad and hold grudges. sometimes i think she really isnt mad at me at all but just feels guilty about the whole ordeal. i know it was wrong of me to engage in such an immoral relationship but it just felt so right. any advice or comment would be much appreciated

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eskimono
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posted March 07, 2010 08:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for eskimono     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There could be all sorts of reasons she became distant, so I won't comment on that.

Scorpio's feel wounds deeply, and don't easily forgive. If she has any interest in making up with you, she will expect you to do the running and to put in a serious amount of effort to make up for the hurt. She will want your patience and understanding whilst she works through the issues, as it is the only way she can heal. Once she has healed she will move on from it quickly, and will unlikely hold a grudge.

If you aren't willing to do this, and to compromise probably more that you want to, she will likely completely cut you off - permanently - till the day she dies!

Rightly or wrongly, the onus is on you to put this right.

Hope this helps.

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darkstar
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posted March 14, 2010 05:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for darkstar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well she returned a recent email i sent her but now i'm just as confused. she said she thinks about me at times she misses me and others she's still angry about the things i said. and i want to make everything right......but i just dont know how to. she's so distant at this point i dont know how to reach out to her

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eskimono
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posted March 14, 2010 11:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for eskimono     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
She responded to the email - just go for it.

Directly, with intent and absolute honesty, say exactly what you mean, no games. And stick in there, it will likely take several goes (depending on how hurtful the things you said were).

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darkstar
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posted March 15, 2010 05:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for darkstar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yes i understand that but i just dont know how to go about it without feeling like i am harrassing her

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eskimono
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posted March 15, 2010 01:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for eskimono     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You're not giving us much to go on here!

Have you apologised - sincerely and unreservedly, several times? That's the first step. Say sorry, and mean it, as many times as it takes.

I would suggest you harrass her - what have you got to lose? She'll make it very clear if you over-step the mark.

Fight for want you want with persistence and determination.

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GypseeWind
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posted March 15, 2010 03:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GypseeWind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can't speak of Scorpio women, but in my experience, Scorpio men do test you.

So, you have to fight for them, if you want them. It's like starting over in their eyes, and since you did/said something wrong, you must prove yourself all over again.

My Scorp ex was never happier then when I was texting him 10 times a day, trying to get back in his good graces. Not trying to offend anyone here, but this is just the truth. Well, my truth.

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eskimono
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posted March 15, 2010 04:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for eskimono     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yes Gypsee - totally agree - harsh, but the truth

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darkstar
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posted March 15, 2010 04:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for darkstar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well the thought had crossed my mind that she was testing me. and i have apologized more times than i can count. so i guess i will continue to be persistent. i will be back home in a few days and really hope she will meet with me so i can tell her face to face how i really feel. i just hope she will see me

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eskimono
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posted March 15, 2010 04:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for eskimono     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Don't be too sad - she responded to your email and told you she was angry with you.

If she had truly cut you off she either would not have replied, or replied with cold indifference and would not have referred to any emotion on her part.

That's my take on it anyway.

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darkstar
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posted March 16, 2010 04:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for darkstar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well she also said she was sorry if she had hurt me. and it is the first time i had heard from her in nearly 3 months. that was around a week and a half ago and still no reply to any of my emails after that. idk if she wants me to pursue her or what i'm so confused.

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MysticMelody
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posted March 16, 2010 09:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MysticMelody     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
darkstar, you said:

"she said she would just stop making time for him and have him leave her. well i had to go away for an extended period of time on business and the first few weeks were fine. but she became distant and eventually wasnt returning my calls."

It seems this is the way she deals with ending relationships. I think she will have to deal with the wrap up of the first relationship before she is fully ready to have a real relationship with you. She is confused and going back and forth between the two of you, it seems. She connected back with him so then she started "becoming distant" with you basically "stop(ped) making time for" you as she said she would do to the other bf. I'm sure you could get her back, it is just a question of if it would be what you want right now. She will have to fully end the relationship with the other person first. This is why people say, "If they cheat with you, they will cheat on you." It just means the person doesn't have the integrity to end the first relationship before pursuing the next. You already know that is where she is at in her development. Do you want to love her through that or not? If you do, talk to her about it and make it safe for her to admit she isn't over her feelings for this first bf yet. Then give her time to decide what she wants for sure. If you can't do that, then you will have to suffer the withdrawal from her company and move on. I don't see any other choice. Just my opinion though. ♥

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darkstar
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posted March 16, 2010 09:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for darkstar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
that is a good point but she told me she had ended it with him and that i flipped out on her for no reason which i want to believe because at this point she doesnt even have a reason to lie to me. and i kinda had figured it would come to a crossroads and that her decision would be hard on her. idk i just really miss her and i entered into this relationship with the fear something like this might happen in the back of my mind. i just feel this connection with her ive never felt with another person. we have the fish scorpion short wave radio psychic kinda thing going on when we are around each other. i'm willing to go through these things for her if she will have me back and this surprises even me because i have an arrogance to myself with women but it doesnt exist with her so its quite out of my nature to go chasing but its all i want to do. but i'm still very confused

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MysticMelody
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posted March 17, 2010 09:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MysticMelody     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Have you written to her and shared your feelings? Have you said the things you just said? It is ok to chase her. And more important to know you have taken every chance and done all you can do.

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darkstar
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posted March 20, 2010 07:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for darkstar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yes but i cant call her because of my work schedule and timezone differences and stuff so the internet is my only mode of communication and i dont feel i can express myself on here as well as spoken word especially in person. idk i'm just kinda lost still

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LetsDance
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posted April 23, 2010 02:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LetsDance     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
darkstar: you have got to see her. She has got to put her eyes on you.

Have you be able to meet with her?

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vapor-lash
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posted April 23, 2010 07:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vapor-lash     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
darkstar --

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the internet is my only mode of communication and i dont feel i can express myself on here as well as spoken word especially in person

Could you cam2cam on skype? (it's better than msn)

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i cant call her because of my work schedule and timezone differences and stuff

Maybe you could stay up one night and try calling her anyway. I'm not sure..

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i'm willing to go through these things for her if she will have me back and this surprises even me because i have an arrogance to myself with women

Interesting... You're not the first Piscean I hear that from. Do you have an Aries Venus?

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darkstar
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posted June 28, 2010 06:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for darkstar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well an update i still havent been able to see her but recently we have been chatting. just casually at first and i finally asked her if when i finally got back in november if she would like to pick back up were we left off. she said if i was willing to try she was willing to try but she didnt want what we had before. confused i asked what she meant and she said she didnt want to jump back into a serious relationship and just take things slow at first. and if it didnt work we would just remain close friends. the friends thing i dont really see happening considering how passionate our relationship was. but hey its a foot in the door. does anyone have any comments or suggestions. or do you think she's just telling me this stuff to make me feel better about things just to let me down when i get back

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darkstar
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posted July 05, 2010 04:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for darkstar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
is anybody out there

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LetsDance
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posted July 15, 2010 06:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LetsDance     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey darkstar, letsdance here. To quote you:

"she didnt want to jump back into a serious relationship and just take things slow at first"

I don't know what happened between you two. It appears you got very emotional and it surprised her. I don't know what you said to her that made her mad or hurt, but she is not taking you at "face value" anymore. She is willing to give you a chance, but you have to earn the right for her to let her guard down. Depending on her maturity (both mentally and emotionally), it could be a while before she "trusts" you into her heart again. I suggest you take her advice and take it slow. Be her friend, confidant, refuge, strength and THEN maybe you can become her lover again.

IMHO, the silent treatment is a way of her seeing how much you want her back and for what. Are you going to be persistant or give up? How much is she worth to you? She was willing to quit her BF for you. While that's not great for the other person, I think she was really serious about you.

I'm not going to blame you totally for the argument you guys had. I'm sure she had something to do with it -- especially since she was cheating on her BF with you. She knows that, but it's always a double-standard with most scorpios. To those, they EXPECT you to understand THEM, but they don't always give you that understanding. From where I sit, those scorpios don't think anyone knows as much as they do -- therefore, you are suspect.

Take that as wisdom on how to deal with her. Keep your cool. Don't lose your temper and don't let her provoke you into a negative emotional outburst. Love her with a knowing, disciplined, mature level of love. One that knows "what time it is", if you know what I mean (if you don't I'll try to explain). Don't be led by any fear or insecurity of losing her or that you may blow it. Be confident. Watch her as she watches you. Don't be overcome by her intensity UNLESS the time is right! Keep a stable, consistency about you. You want her, yes, but she's got to also want YOU.

She knows you are emotional. Whatever it was (not necessarily specifically, but in principle), that set you off before, WILL present itself again -- trust me. You have GOT to handle it better. Or you will have to repeat it over and over -- but not necessarily with her.

Have you learned anything about yourself during this time? Have you reflected on what happened and how you could have handled it better? Let whatever it was help you develop into a better person. You are being given a second chance to turn a negative into a positive. The second chance, yes, is with her, but not necessarily. You've been given a chance to walk out what you have learned and grow from it. I believe that is so valuable.

Ok, I got all philosophical there....and I said "not necessarily" alot, didn't I?

I think you'll be alright.

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oneruledbymars
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posted July 15, 2010 09:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for oneruledbymars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Darkstar,
I have a quick question.
What is her level of awareness?

Is she able to see things from a higher Energy stand point....otherwise it truly is hard to say what a human will do when they are operating from there alter Ego....they have motivations that are hard to flush out because the Ego keeps them from being transparently honest or centered in an emotional response.
It is clear that she loves you though, and still has affection for you.

Another question (questions help me map Energy better)...you mentioned it but I just want to be clear. Has she left the other man for good now? Or are they still in a relationship?....because it seems that if they weren't she would be putting more of her Energy into you....your connection sounded very intense....what were the Venus-Pluto and Venus-Neptune connections in your Synastry and Composite chart. Its always best to look at what she is really feeling through the chart if communication is strained..you know?

And one more word of advice....I have learned in Karmic relationships such as the one your experiencing that it is not so much about being together as it is learning a lesson. I caught that you have never let your heart be open in relationships like you have with this one. That is a sure sign that the Universe brought her along to break your Ego down, to help you get down to the core of who really are, your souls Essence....this is the only way that moving from our lifetimes of dense darkness that we can really heart center and learn to be motivated and act on higher emotions of Compassion and Unconditional love. Its a hard lesson. But if that resonates with you I would look at the forest and not the tree....it makes your path of Ascension so much smoother.

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usc277
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posted March 11, 2014 09:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for usc277     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i wonder what happened with these two ?

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