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seeleah
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posted June 23, 2010 05:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for seeleah     Edit/Delete Message
Okay, I recently ended an 8 year marriage, this past fall. Alot of things contributed to it of course, but when I realized that things weren't going to change after trying for 3 years, I called it quit. It broke my heart. I am still healing from it.

Anyways, there is this new guy in my life. I am crazy about him and he stirs feelings in me that excite and scare the crap out of me at the sametime. I am so scared of getting my heart broken again. I could use some insight here. It is a long distance relationship, and his actions suggest that he is very committed to making this work. I just would like to hear what the charts say, besides what my own eyes say to me, cause I know I am tainting it.

I am going to post our synastry, composite and our composite progressed...help me out here please, I could use it...

synastry

composite

composite progressed with our progressed charts...

please, I don't want this post to get by passed, any insights are appreciated...thanks.

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seeleah
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posted June 23, 2010 05:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for seeleah     Edit/Delete Message
oh and no, we don't plan on it to being long distance forever..but I need to take things slow right now so it is okay for now, but we agreed that things keep working out, one of us will move.

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Geocosmic* Valentine
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posted June 23, 2010 05:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geocosmic* Valentine     Edit/Delete Message
Seelah,

It looks like this is temporary, but DO NOT CHOOSE TO ALLOW IT TO BREAK YOUR HEART! I'll explain why.

I can read composite charts but I choose not to use them as a the most reliable source. In the Synastry Chart you posted, there is a square aspect between his Saturn and your Uranus. This aspect is like an earthquake of instability in a relationship and it's very strong.

It does not mean that you don't care for each other or love each other, it's just that it's a very difficult energy to carry off in a relationship.

Part of the attraction between you both is that your Uranus squares his Venus, this is usually a strong and exciting attraction, but it doesn't last for long. It's a temporary attraction, there's no stability connected to it.

Your Saturn makes no connections to his chart at all. Once again, this doesn't offer stability for the relationship.

There is a lot of sexual attraction in the chart, but sexual attraction doesn't equal a stable relationship. My suggestion is to have fun with him when you have the opportunity to be with him, but the comparison doesn't suggest that he is the one to build a new life with.

Please respond when you've had a chance to read this.

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seeleah
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posted June 23, 2010 06:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for seeleah     Edit/Delete Message
what about the progressed charts?

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seeleah
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posted June 23, 2010 06:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for seeleah     Edit/Delete Message
oh and we have already been together for 6 months...shouldn't it have ended by now?

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seeleah
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posted June 23, 2010 06:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for seeleah     Edit/Delete Message
ah the saturn/uranus square is on the composite..I see...not the synastry. but wouldn't he have that in his natal?

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posted June 23, 2010 06:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geocosmic* Valentine     Edit/Delete Message
The Saturn-Uranus square IS in the synastry. Look more carefully.

There's no need to look at the progressed charts. There is such a thing as overdoing it, especially when we're trying to find some kind of magical measurement that will salvage the relationship. It's not there and progressions don't cause things to happen.

I mean that in the sense that "Planets do nothing...people do." - Noel Tyl

I mean, if you want to get philosophical and say, "Well, we have free will, don't we?"

Yes, you definitely do. I'm not guaranteeing a break up, I'm just using my strong knowledge of astrology to tell you what I see.

Transiting Uranus will cross his 7th House cusp sometime within the next year. Because of the nature of these astro charts, I can't see the exact degree number of his ASC Axis, so all I can tell you is that when Uranus crossed that line, especially because it's the 7th House, it's highlyt, HIGHLY suggestive of a surprising relationship break up.

So once again, I'm not telling you to throw your relationship into the trash, I'm just letting you know that every relationship has something to teach us and each relationship has a "shelf-life" whether it ends through a break up, divorce or death.

I hope I'm wrong, simply because I don't want you to have heart break either, I wish you much happiness and don't miss out on the happy times with him but...this is the energy in the chart I'm only answering your question.

Others may feel free to chime in

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posted June 23, 2010 06:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
Geocosmic, I know of a guy I once tried to be with who had a Saturn/Uranus square in his chart which was part of a fixed t-square...I saw him being extremely unable to decide on how to do relationships in general and as a result found him to be highly unstable, and as a result the relationship seemed to go nowhere...but I was also not in a great place, having recently been out of a marriage and so I feel like part of it too was me...and it makes me wonder in general if people with Saturn/Uranus squares tend to attract difficult situations...? He certainly seemed to have a history of it with love!

I guess my question is, since seelah and this man are close together in age, and he seems to be the one who has the Saturn/Uranus square, wouldn't it be that he has that aspect with everyone born in his generation? How would that effect things generally, because I wonder how to read stuff like this if the planets in the natal chart are already unstable, you know what I mean?


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posted June 23, 2010 07:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
Seelah, I am sorry I don't have much to add right now for the synastry, but I agree that you should probably go ahead and just try to enjoy what you have with this guy now...plus with being out of an 8-year marriage, it would make sense for you to just take things as they come right now relationship-wise anyway, because it seems like you're still healing...try not to focus on the heartbreak end of things (easier said than done I realize) and actually see the advantages of this , such as the long distance, because in truth it's almost like forcing you to look at it 'from afar' in order to pace it and really decide IF *YOU* really will want this guy for the long-term...

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posted June 23, 2010 07:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geocosmic* Valentine     Edit/Delete Message
Hi MVM,

I use to go with the argument that people with generational aspects will always attract certain energy with the people in their same age group, like your friend, but what I notice is that they tend to not form relationships with their age group. Like me, I have never been with a man who is my age. The closest in age I've dated has been 5 years older than me. The youngest, right now, is 9 years younger.

They would both probably do better dating someone much younger or much older than themselves if they want stability.

Also, what I notice is that his Saturn-Uranus square affects his 6th House and 7th House. This doesn't mean that he can't have a relationship, it simply means that he has a very different relationship style than what regular society would deem "the ideal". He might actually do much better with long distance relationships that don't "try" to be stable. He might do better with someone who is, say, a flight attendant who isn't in the home for more than 3 days a week, a professional truck driver or someone like that.

The status quo will not work for him. That will be a strong theme in his life - "breaking away from the old to get to the new." The new will always win out over the old. Antiquity always moves out of the way for modernity. But what will help him is the Saturn energy. In traditional astrology, Saturn ruled both Capricorn and Aquarius. I never understood how that could be until once I heard a shaman speaking about air and breathing (Aquarius) and he said that taking a "breath" (Aquarius) is the first thing we ever do "alone" (Saturn) on earth. And it's the last thing we do alone on earth. Air (Aquarius) anchors (Saturn) us to earth.

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posted June 23, 2010 07:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geocosmic* Valentine     Edit/Delete Message
Oh, MVM,

You gave some great advice above my last post. You said exactly what I was thinking but I was having a hard time putting the words together.

Seelah,

I have a running philosophy among my friends that the first guy you form a relationship with after a major relationship ends is the guy who helps you to separate your aura from the old relationship physically. We view it as a necessary service. I don't mean to be trite about it, because all relationships are valuable, but MVM just gave some excellent advice about pacing yourself. Sometimes God does for us what we can't do for ourselves.

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Ami Ann
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posted June 23, 2010 07:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
(((((GV))))
I could only wish some day to have your knowledge of Astrology.
I am amazed.


Ami

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seeleah
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posted June 23, 2010 07:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for seeleah     Edit/Delete Message
um....I hear you guys. a couple of thoughts...

I thought uranus already transited his 7th house...I could be wrong.

and two, my 7th house aquarus won't help at all with any of this?

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MyVirgoMask
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posted June 23, 2010 07:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks, Geocosmic! ...and that Uranus/Saturn explanation makes perfect sense to me.
My boyfriend's got the trine very closely and I wonder if it helps him with his Uranus/Venus square and Uranus/Moon opposition because he seems weirdly emotionally stable for someone with all that wild Uranian energy.

I also wonder about the generational aspect thing because I always have my long-term relationships with people who are within my age range. All the times I didn't it didn't last for some reason.

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posted June 23, 2010 08:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geocosmic* Valentine     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Seelah,

Uranus has not transited his 7th House yet. Currently, transiting Uranus is at 0 degrees Aries, I don't even think Uranus will reach his 7th House cusp before it goes retrograde, that's why I think you will possibly be together for close to a year before that transit happens.

I now see that his natal Saturn conjuncts your ASC. This could be a stabilizing factor in the relationship, so there is some hope for longevity. So I hope that does it for you. Longevity doesn't always mean forever, but if you find that you are handling things well, then by all means, make it work for you.

Here's a tip for the future. If you are making a synastry chart, put your own chart in the center and his chart on the outside. It's a lot easier.

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seeleah
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posted June 24, 2010 09:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for seeleah     Edit/Delete Message
Everyone, thank you sooo much for helping me out in this. I have been thinking of this alot lately, and here are the things that came up. (oh and I will do that with synastry charts in the future btw!)

This man magicked me into his life, that is for sure. About a month after we met, he put it out to the universe "to bring into his life someone he could spend the rest of his life with". Then we got together. He hadn't been dating someone for years before we got together. Idk, just weird. Not saying that I am that "one" but just strange non the less. It was a real karmic clash when he and I got together, in fact...I call him my karmic collesion and I wasn't joking, it isn't a just a pet name for him. Everything has changed since we got together.

The other thing that gets me is that there is a real question on his time of birth, by an hour. his twin says one time and he says another. So, there is a question there and that would affect which house it hits. however, I wouldn't be surprised if the time I put in IS correct though, because about 4 years ago, he went through a huge change in his job occupation and I think uranus totally transited through that time when all that happened, but it also was the time when his fiance at the time left him. So, hard to figure out things on that end.

here are some other interesting tidbits. I have several friends that are pyschics and they informed me that huge change is coming my way, and mostly in regards to my profession. it really shocked me at the time because I was like, changing professions is the LAST thing on my mind right now. But when I think about that uranus transiting aries thing, well, I have an aries midheaven so....that makes perfect sense. They brough up him when that part of the reading came up...and they said he wasn't going anywhere but that was the time when things would actually come together..physically for us (cause live far apart now)...so again, idk.

but here is what I began to think after looking into this...what will be will be and there isn't anything I can do about it but move forward without fear and move forward with love. If I get in the way, I will make things worse, I have learned that controling things only makes things worse. With my aquarus 7th house, I might be able to handle that uranian energy coming into his life, maybe not. You never ever know with uranus...but I have been walking with uranus energy alot lately, it has colored my life since last oct. idk. Very interseting. It would be interesting to see what happened with my failed marriage, what energies were in play. Anyone interested in looking at that with me? Again, thank you all for this...thank you sooo much.

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Benedict Moon*
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posted June 24, 2010 01:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Benedict Moon*     Edit/Delete Message
Well THANK GOD you aren't gonna let our peverse Cancerian tendency to worry ruin this. Just take it as it comes like the other's said. Though I think it does have a chance for longevity as long as you both know what you want. And knowing Astro.com, the orbs of the Uranus squares could be neglibible...which is why it would be nice to see the individual charts just to be sure.


Hmmm, another Cancer-Cancer relationship. I used to shun this a couple of years ago, but I keep seeing happy people of this match. And after alot of failed associations with other signs (including a long term relationship with a scorpio) and the realization that a famous personality I've been drawn to since I was 10 is a Cancer (who also happens to be married to another cancer), I wonder if this would really hurt to try.

What's it like though? The closest I've come to having a Cancer-Cancer relationship is with my dad (which sucks in a very saturnian way) and a platonic connection I had with my gay co-worker like two years ago (I absolutely ADORE him).


I'll try and a peak in your other thread too when I have the chance.

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posted June 24, 2010 09:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MysticMelody     Edit/Delete Message
seeleah, I just wanted to let you know that I am here and "listening". ♥ If the Universe gives me something wise to say, I promise I will say it... until then... I'm here. ♥

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seeleah
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posted June 24, 2010 11:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for seeleah     Edit/Delete Message
I would I could pretend that I am all philosphy and no worry..but that would be lying. However, I know that letting the worry rule my actions is wrong, and I won't go there. I am in this situation for a reason. I mean hey, a saturn conjunct an ascendant means a fated situation, for good for bad here. So there is a lesson to be learned..better to have loved than not loved at all...or trying to. And to all of you on here that have posted, you have no idea how much your ears, thoughts and words have touched me...I feel like I am meeting kindred spirits

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seeleah
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posted June 24, 2010 11:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for seeleah     Edit/Delete Message
dear god I am the queen of typos tonight!

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Geocosmic* Valentine
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posted June 25, 2010 12:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geocosmic* Valentine     Edit/Delete Message
Seeleah,

In the future when you want someone to put very hard work into reading a chart for you, please be sure to take it seriously enough to give them the correct information, especially if it is incredibly important - like correct birth times. There are other ways to read the chart when you don't have the right time.

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posted June 25, 2010 03:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Taurean_Scorpion     Edit/Delete Message
Seelah, Hi again.
My suggestion is to take it slow, have lots of conversations with him and see what type of guy he is. In your previous marriage I think you said you didn't have the room to breathe and be yourself. Find out if he's very possessive, controlling, overdependent, those kinds of things, and how he even feels about his family and treats his family members and friends.

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seeleah
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posted June 25, 2010 09:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for seeleah     Edit/Delete Message
I am pretty sure that that time IS the right one, I am sorry if I communicated that it was wrong..it's just me wanting to make sure that it is right that is all, me and my constant triple checking. AGain, the worrying and doubting. But pretty sure, cause I asked several times that is it..

yeah taking things slow. good idea.

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