posted August 24, 2010 12:05 AM         

1987 us

His Venus, Saturn, and Pluto trine my Moon.
His Sun and Mars sextile my Venus.

His Venus conjuct my Mercury...
I think that is what I loved most of all.

His Uranus conjunct my Sun and trine my Saturn
at zero degrees each.

His Leo smile still warms my heart decades later.

His Venus conjunct my Pluto...

posted August 24, 2010 09:57 AM         

I got his birth time this morning... my Saturn squares his moon. I can feel all of these moon connections, that is for sure. I used to think that the reason I had such strong feelings for boys in my youth was simply because of my youth... but now, twenty years later, I feel an immediate stroooooong emotional connection. That is obviously what Moon connections do... and I STILL feel it, probably because of Saturn. ♥

posted August 24, 2010 05:19 PM         

In 1987 your pMoon was in Leo conjunct his nMoon, nSun, & pSun.

Now, in 2010 your pMoon is in Cancer and about to re-enter Leo and once again conjunct his nMoon & nSun in Leo.

posted August 24, 2010 11:58 PM         

I am going to read again what you said and apply it like a good student.

I had been wishing recently that I had the charts of long ago boyfriends so I could see what deep connections and long term relationships looked like for me in my past synastries. I am interested in pondering the progression thing. I was thinking all of this had to do with Saturn's cycle somehow since the other ex recently found me a month or two ago.

As for the Leo ex I am talking to now... I just feel pure love. Regardless of what it is... it feels nice, and healing, and home. ♥

posted August 25, 2010 09:07 AM         

it's like we just picked back up with the fight after the break-up! All the emotions still there with just some distance and a little memory loss!!! I finally got to say the things he wouldn't hear and we were both saying sorry etc... it was freaking surreal.

posted August 25, 2010 12:29 PM         

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As for the Leo ex I am talking to now... I just feel pure love. Regardless of what it is... it feels nice, and healing, and home.

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I know what you mean, the feeling of home.......

posted August 27, 2010 10:57 PM         

Well, ex-Leo obviously has some issues over our break-up TWENTY-THREE years ago and although this has all played out like some strange movie scripted by God (I know all life's experiences are, but this one is TOO obvious in every respect) it still has me stunned that he would pick up the relationship at the point of the break-up, and after reading a box full of letters he had written to the girlfriend he had before me (who he was "friends" with while we were together, which the letters somewhat prove and he had only ever kissed her once at camp or some-such but that's a whole 'nother story... including the fact that he almost married her years after we broke up and she ended up sending back his letters when he said he didn't love her during some problems they were having while she was PLANNING THEIR WEDDING...) he then calls me after celebrating buying his own business (earlier that day), at 11pm when he has been drinking and reads these letters to me where he writes about his broken heart (to her after he and I broke up) and writes all of these insights about our relationship which he had long since forgotten but which I had brought up a few days ago (talking about how young we were and the mistakes we both made etc) and he gets all emotional and HANGS UP ON ME.

Freaking drama King Leo.

So I just stare at the phone in astonishment, roll my eyes, unplug it so I can go back to sleep and of course don't say anything to him the next day. He says nothing as well and then writes me this morning at 9 am saying he is going to call me tonight. I didn't respond, though I have been online so he is probably not going to call, but STILL I have to unplug my phone before I go to sleep in case he calls later. I wonder if he is a drunk or something and that is why he isn't married. He seems relatively successful and has a super nice sports car (I think, it is black and shiny and was shaped like a newer car, I guess) so I thought my biggest problem if we got together would be that he might not be able to handle my simpler (poorer) lifestyle. It never occurred to me that he could drink too much or something.

Anyway, the hang up reminded me that he caused a bit of drama in my life back in the day and I know I don't want to revisit that. I wonder if this is just a burst of energy being healed or if he really is super immature.

hmm...

I wonder what I'm supposed to learn here now... probably to say goodbye with love? Who knows.

posted August 28, 2010 12:12 PM         

I was thinking of this song earlier this week when we first started talking but I was thinking it didn't quite fit because our conversation never lags and there was no emptiness... and then I posted it on FB the day after he hung up on me because I thought maybe the connection was just in my mind. His letter today absolutely shows me the connection wasn't all me or in my imagination, but I still love this song. ♥ We are trying to reach through 23 years.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Y8ag_Prj24

Same Old Lang Syne

Met my old lover in the grocery store
The snow was falling Christmas eve
I stole behind her in the frozen foods
And I touched her on the sleeve

She didn't recognize the face at first
But then her eyes flew open wide
She went to hug me and she spilled her purse
And we laughed until we cried

We took her groceries to the checkout stand
The food was totaled up and bagged
We stood there lost in our embarrassment
As the conversation dragged

We went to have ourselves a drink or two
But couldn't find an open bar
We bought a six-pack at the liquor store
And we drank it in her car

We drank a toast to innocence, we drank a toast to now
And tried to reach beyond the emptiness but neither one knew how

She said she'd married her an architect
Who kept her warm and safe and dry
She would have liked to say she loved the man
But she didn't like to lie

I said the years had been a friend to her
And that her eyes were still as blue
But in those eyes I wasn't sure if I saw doubt or gratitude

She said she saw me in the record stores
And that I must be doing well
I said the audience was heavenly but the traveling was hell

We drank a toast to innocence, we drank a toast to now
And tried to reach beyond the emptiness but neither one knew how
We drank a toast to innocence, we drank a toast to time
Reliving in our eloquence, another auld lang syne

The beer was empty and our tongues were tired
Running out of things to say
She gave a kiss to me as I got out
And I watched her drive away

Just for a moment I was back at school
And felt that old familiar pain
And as I turned to make my way back home
The snow turned in to rain

posted August 28, 2010 06:53 PM         

I swear, men hold grudges forever. I know they say women do, but in my experience it is the men.

If he isn't over it after 23 freaking years, he never will be. Was what you did that bad or does he just hold onto everything? Because if he can't let anything go, be prepared for hell if you two are together. He'll throw every fight from decades ago into your face. If this is the case, and the type of person he is, you have to ask yourself if you can be with someone so immature and unevolved. If what you did was really bad, then maybe you two shouldn't be together, because he obviously can't let it go. if it wasn't that bad, but he's just holding onto it, then you may be able to move past it.