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chamomile77
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posted June 20, 2011 11:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for chamomile77     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is it possible to have a deep connection with someone (like he was my boyfriend for almost 4 years and we were even talking about wedding plans til we broke up a month ago and I'm still finding it hard to accept and we still talk) but somebody told me that in reading my chart the guy is not important in my life, he is not strongly indicated there. How is that possible? I feel so attached to him, like he is the love of my life, I even feel like I have known him forever, but my chart says otherwise?

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Randall
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posted June 20, 2011 11:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moving this to Soul Unions.

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DD
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posted June 21, 2011 01:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They are reading your chart wrong.

Probably they donīt take the houserulers (1st, 4th, 5th, 7th and 8th) into account?
Or "forgot" to check your natals?

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posted June 21, 2011 06:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for chamomile77     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well I'm thinking it's either that or I got the wrong time of birth? I got no birth time in my birth cert so I just use what my father told me (sometime around past 11 pm, more or less 11:30 I guess, was his exact words lol) so I use 11:30, would it affect the reading so much?

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Alma Sun
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posted June 21, 2011 08:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Alma Sun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Am I reading this right? DD posted something on June 21, 2011??

Welcome back

chamomile77, there's way more to astrology than just synastry & composite. There's lots of people together who have dookie synastry lol, anything is possible. Check out your midpoints, duads and solstice points as well.

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posted June 22, 2011 01:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Alma, though not really back, I am still banned on my homecomputer (which is what I asked for last november).
Just saw that noone had replied.


Chamomile,

birthtimes are crucial. Without them the reading will just not be as individualized.
Also, if you feel a connection to be significant and the astrology does not seem to back it up, then either there is some projection at play on your part (which to a certain degree happens often, and is not a bad thing necessarily), or - and that happens often as well- the astrologer is simply missing something.

For your birthtime you could do a rectification.


My Shortcut for synastry to find patterns:

1. Check the natals for the same or complimentary themes:
For example: You have Moon in Pisces - he has Moon conjunct Neptune
A similiar theme would be highlighted for you.

A complimentary one would be if you have Moon in Pisces and he has Sun square Neptune.
(I would only count conjunction, opposition, and close squares and trines here).

Check for planets in sign/house/aspect
Example:
Sun in Sagittarius is similiar to Sun in 9th or Sun conjunct Jupiter (not exactly the same, but similiar enough)
Planets in the 1st house are also emphasised, so in this case Jupiter in 1st house would give a similiar vibe as well

2. Check the synastry: see if natal themes are being repeated.
Let`s say in synastry his Neptune squares your Moon that would be a highlighted theme.


3. Check (in synastry) the angles and angle rulers aspecting Sun, Moon, ASC, IC, nodal axis and angle rulers (note in which houses the planets and angles/anglerulers are placed)
for romantic relationships the 7th house is of utmost importance


4. Check Venus, Mars, 5th and 8th house (for "sparks"); 7th house is more about partnership.

5. For past life interactions or deeply subconscious patterns you can check out the 12th house, planets in 12th house and the ruler of 12th house (for past lives the SN is quite revealing as well)


6. ALL waterhouses are indicative of deep emotional themes, so make a special note if in the synastric overlay significant planets (those which are involved in strong aspects) fall into or rule the waterhouses; even if the aspect is made by Saturn and Uranus, if they rule the 8th and 4th house they will ALWAYS have a strong emotional effect


notes:
° I mainly consider
1. conjunction and opposition
2. square and trine
(3. solstice points/ antiscion - but the jury is still out on these)


° there should be balance:
The connections involving 5th, 7th and 8th house seem to be of main importance for relationships. (the 4th house would be allimportant for a very deep emotional connection, but it`s not sexual; the 8th is actually both, deeply emotional and deeply sexual and plainly scary in terms of intensity and depth).

If only one personīs 5th, 7th and 8th house-connections (especially their ruler) aspect the other Sun, Moon, ASC, ruler of 1st or even 4th house, then we probably have a case of unrequited feelings at our hand (or at least a case where one feels more than the other).

If it goes both ways, good.


7. Check especially for challenging aspects of the personal planets Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars, the angles and the ruler of 1st, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 7th and 8th house to Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, Pluto (and maybe Chiron).
These might relate to the "big issues", most likely karmic in nature and not easy to deal with, but in the end transformative.
challenges involving
Saturn: blockages, the "brake"
Uranus: unpredictibality, sudden changes, "on and off"
Neptune: dissolving, sometimes deluding others and oneself
Pluto: (subconscious) powerplays, very forceful
Jupiter: overindulgence (though even squares of Jupiter to Moon or Venus are usually quite joyful, you just have to keep an eye on the bankaccount now and then ).


8. Check also the harmonious aspects to the outer planets:
Jupiter can be endlessly supportive and your "biggest fan". Saturn can be stabilizing and structuring (which is needed in a relationship as well - commitment!).
Uranus can be liberating, inspiring and electrifying, giving you completely new ideas.
Neptune can be very compassionate, and loving in an allencompassing, unconditional sense (though Neptune`s love is more spiritual than personal, which often is the problem in a Venus-Neptune-aspect.)
Pluto can be intense and "rebuilding" you from the inside, baring your soul so you can strip away everything that is unreal, that is not "your truth". (it demands a bit of courage though).

9. Check for conjunctions to the nodal axis, South Node and North Node.
If there are only conjunctions to the SN without some to the NN, the connection might be passing away, you might have outlived its sell-date. (not my words, I read that in a book by Blashke and also in one by Hall).
if there are also conjunctions to the NN then you have a common path, no matter how long or short it will be.


I guess thatīs it.
(Phew and that is only the short route to synastry).

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chamomile77
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posted June 22, 2011 02:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for chamomile77     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
wow, thanks a lot DD! helps a lot thanks!

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Alma Sun
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posted June 22, 2011 03:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Alma Sun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ahh, I see.

Well don't fight it DD, you know you wanna stay. hehehe

(only kidding)

Thanks for the post, as always very informative and detailed.

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DD
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posted June 27, 2011 01:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You`re welcome.

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Randall
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posted June 27, 2011 06:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can remove that ban if it makes things more convenient.

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DD
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posted June 29, 2011 02:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the offer.
But actually I find it okay that I am not able to post from home; helps me to not spend too much time on the computer.

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