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Delilah
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posted January 25, 2012 11:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delilah     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
After months of wishing and trying to meet someone special, I thought that it had finally happened. The day that we met, transiting Saturn was conjunct my natal Juno and transiting Juno was getting closer to my natal Saturn. I thought that either of these transits would bring someone significant into my life, but I don't think that it has.

We don't have any soul mate aspects between our charts, only aspects that would promise great sex and nothing more than instability. For example, his Mars conjuncts my Moon and his Uranus squares my Venus. The Uranus square Venus aspect is something that I've experienced in the past with a LOT of guys. The fascination on their end never lasted long and I couldn't figure out what had gone wrong. Eventually, I was able to let go, disappointed, and move on.

There's nothing truly great in our synastry and even though his Saturn sextiles my Venus, I worry that this isn't going to last long because of Uranus and the lack of love aspects. Our synastry doesn't point to a future together, but for some reason I just can't walk away. I can't figure out why he's so special when what we have is nothing. The most confusing thing about this is that every time I decide that he's just leading me on and have made up my mind to let him go, he'll pop up somehow and I can't. After this, he'll avoid me and everything will repeat. Even though I told him that I want to be friends, he'll speak to me like we have a future and he wants to be with me. He knows how I feel and how hard it is for me to enforce boundaries between us, but it's like he just doesn't give a damn; his wants and needs have to be satisfied before he'll consider the damage that he's causing/caused.

What in astrology can explain this? Also, have any of you experienced something like this: an attraction to someone and your synastry chart just doesn't add up?

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MC2012
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posted January 26, 2012 12:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MC2012     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Welcome to the club lol we know the feeling...It sucks! Grrr billions of ppl in the world and sooo limited on finding "the twin" well I hope you will get ur happiness with him somehow, some way

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Delilah
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posted January 26, 2012 12:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delilah     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks MC2012. I so badly wanted it to be him, but apparently it's not. I'm just so tired of wasting time on guys like him. I asked him to be upfront about how he feels about me, even told him that I would rather he tell me flat out that he's not interested in me at all, but he hasn't. I know that he's not really into me and just likes being validated. For God's sake, he's seeing other women and I can't just cut him off. He's my addiction and I wish that I could turn the tables on him to show him what it feels like to be in my position and the other girls' that he's doing this to.

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IndigoDirae
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posted January 26, 2012 02:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Clearly, there's a lesson here. Nothing in the composite? At first, I wondered if your perspective would change drastically if it turned out you had an incredible composite, or he lied about his birthdata and it revealed soul bonded synastry.

What I mean to say is, how much are you relating to the man versus his chart? I've done this. We don't understand the connection we feel to someone not being present in the synastry we have. First off, if we feel it - it's there. Just takes digging and evaluating various methods. It's ALWAYS there.

But what I'm thinking you're undergoing is a lesson from a soulmate of some kind (rather than companion or twin) wrapped up in a good old-fashion Plutonian addiction relationship. Somewhere, via some method, you're going to find some Pluto-Venus and Pluto-Moon aspects.

To this day, I have an addiction to a man who was actually a serial killer. I hate to admit that, but we attended school together. We were friends. He didn't go back off the deep-end until I rejected him, knowing about his past, and wanting nothing to do with someone who had a homicidal personality.

For the next decade, he haunted my dreams. I'd wake up to see that I was someone on the 'murdering' end of some brutality. I'd hear people screaming. I felt as if I was going out of my mind.

Just this year, I contacted him again. Facebook. I wanted to know that, if he was about to start killing again, I could do what was necessary, or ... if he had found a means of channeling his rage into having a better life. He has a good job, and recently made a commitment to his girlfriend. They seem very happy.

He and I used to even fully admit to the karma we knew we had together. In a brief rundown, we have Sun-Moon-Mars in the composite. A bit more than that, if I recall correctly. Enough to show a strong soul tie, though, thankfully, not my twin - THAT I knew. But significant. Clearly, significant, and having similar energetic resonance to my twin. Like the dark half of the coin.

The most interesting fact of our synastry which I've NEVER found elsewhere was his Pluto conjunct my Sun to the second. 19Lib13. My Neptune is also on his Moon, and his sextiles my Sun exactly. His Sun/Mars also falls right on my VX.

To say this man affected me is terribly redundant. But I also knew if I wanted the full effect of being able to interact as we were meant, he needed to grow and mature, and decide if he was going to break the habits of his soul's dark journey. He seems to be doing that. I'm hopeful.

I really, really didn't want to have to help the police put him in prison. And I wish that were an exaggeration. Some days, I wonder if I decided against the job at the FBI for fear that I would end up having to deal with him behind the glass. Couldn't take that. He did indirectly inspire my first short story, however, which to this day remains among my favourite work.

So, maybe you're dealing with a Pluto relationship. They're VERY intense, here for a reason, and terribly addictive. I don't feel haunted anymore, since I accepted him back into my life on different, somewhat probationary terms. He just seemed grateful I was willing to speak to him again. I was surprised, too, but ... Pluto conjunct Sun to the second.

After 17 years, I was ready to let that ghost go. It's much easier to deal with your once-closetted skeletons if you attire them in sunlight and go dancing together.


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MC2012
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posted January 26, 2012 12:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MC2012     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Indigo is the Pluto the obsessed one? I think that's how it goes lol

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MC2012
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posted January 26, 2012 01:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MC2012     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://youtu.be/ZGT6AKt3eYM

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MC2012
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posted January 26, 2012 01:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MC2012     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Delilah:
Thanks MC2012. I so badly wanted it to be him, but apparently it's not. I'm just so tired of wasting time on guys like him. I asked him to be upfront about how he feels about me, even told him that I would rather he tell me flat out that he's not interested in me at all, but he hasn't. I know that he's not really into me and just likes being validated. For God's sake, he's seeing other women and I can't just cut him off. He's my addiction and I wish that I could turn the tables on him to show
him what it feels like to be in my position and the other
girls' that he's doing this to.

Delilah do the other girls know about you? This guy sounds like a player.

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Delilah
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posted January 26, 2012 04:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delilah     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know his birth time, but did think that he was lying about his birth date because our synastry doesn't quite add up. I did look at the composite by putting his birth time at 12:30 noon. I can't remember the aspect, but we do have Venus-Pluto, if the time I put for his birth time is close. But, I'm the only one obsessing about the other in this. He's always so damn cool about things and when I tried to break things off between us he wanted to be friends, but with the mood that I was in I couldn't agree. I was honest about how I felt and he acted as if he couldn't care. A week didn't even go by when I couldn't take not talking to him and sent him a message. We've talked once since then and the rules I tried to enforce between us didn't seem to matter because he started talking about things that friends don't normally talk about.

MC2012, I think they have to know that something is up. Only two weeks went by before I realized that I wasn't the only one. Everything that he says is so perfect, it's like he studied every romance novel there is and spews out so much gut wrenching garbage. I don't know if he's ever said anything that reflects how he feels and not what he thinks women want to hear.

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Delilah
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posted January 26, 2012 04:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delilah     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MC2012:
http://youtu.be/ZGT6AKt3eYM

Lol. I listened to that song so many times when I tried to break things off.

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MC2012
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posted January 26, 2012 09:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MC2012     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LOL me too (about the song) ohh so he's another charmer, I sometimes think that those type of guys are a great candidate for a polygamous relationship. I hope you're feeling better. Some days are easier than others. You know it really makes sense when they say to cut off all contact completely. It's hard to do but at least it gives both parties time to think.

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Lioness
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posted January 27, 2012 12:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Clearly, there's a lesson here. Nothing in the composite? At first, I wondered if your perspective would change drastically if it turned out you had an incredible composite, or he lied about his birthdata and it revealed soul bonded synastry.

What I mean to say is, how much are you relating to the man versus his chart? I've done this. We don't understand the connection we feel to someone not being present in the synastry we have. First off, if we feel it - it's there. Just takes digging and evaluating various methods. It's ALWAYS there.

But what I'm thinking you're undergoing is a lesson from a soulmate of some kind (rather than companion or twin) wrapped up in a good old-fashion Plutonian addiction relationship. Somewhere, via some method, you're going to find some Pluto-Venus and Pluto-Moon aspects.

To this day, I have an addiction to a man who was actually a serial killer. I hate to admit that, but we attended school together. We were friends. He didn't go back off the deep-end until I rejected him, knowing about his past, and wanting nothing to do with someone who had a homicidal personality.

For the next decade, he haunted my dreams. I'd wake up to see that I was someone on the 'murdering' end of some brutality. I'd hear people screaming. I felt as if I was going out of my mind.

Just this year, I contacted him again. Facebook. I wanted to know that, if he was about to start killing again, I could do what was necessary, or ... if he had found a means of channeling his rage into having a better life. He has a good job, and recently made a commitment to his girlfriend. They seem very happy.

He and I used to even fully admit to the karma we knew we had together. In a brief rundown, we have Sun-Moon-Mars in the composite. A bit more than that, if I recall correctly. Enough to show a strong soul tie, though, thankfully, not my twin - THAT I knew. But significant. Clearly, significant, and having similar energetic resonance to my twin. Like the dark half of the coin.

The most interesting fact of our synastry which I've NEVER found elsewhere was his Pluto conjunct my Sun to the second. 19Lib13. My Neptune is also on his Moon, and his sextiles my Sun exactly. His Sun/Mars also falls right on my VX.

To say this man affected me is terribly redundant. But I also knew if I wanted the full effect of being able to interact as we were meant, he needed to grow and mature, and decide if he was going to break the habits of his soul's dark journey. He seems to be doing that. I'm hopeful.

I really, really didn't want to have to help the police put him in prison. And I wish that were an exaggeration. Some days, I wonder if I decided against the job at the FBI for fear that I would end up having to deal with him behind the glass. Couldn't take that. He did indirectly inspire my first short story, however, which to this day remains among my favourite work.

So, maybe you're dealing with a Pluto relationship. They're VERY intense, here for a reason, and terribly addictive. I don't feel haunted anymore, since I accepted him back into my life on different, somewhat probationary terms. He just seemed grateful I was willing to speak to him again. I was surprised, too, but ... Pluto conjunct Sun to the second.

After 17 years, I was ready to let that ghost go. It's much easier to deal with your once-closetted skeletons if you attire them in sunlight and go dancing together.


Thanks for sharing your story...

Yes I do understand the dynamic of pluto addiction..
Its so very hard to let go... To move past it...

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Delilah
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posted January 27, 2012 12:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delilah     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lol. This is my weakness right now: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5O90uzvUA4

I think I've helped the views go up by about 100. Polygamous relationships and politics would be perfect for these guys. Lol.

I am feeling better, but I just don't know what to do. Whether ending things now or letting everything run it's course (because a whole lot of crazy is about to be dumped at his feet and if he can take it, then maybe...) is better, I just don't know. Logic isn't kicking in right now.

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Delilah
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posted January 27, 2012 12:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delilah     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How long should I wait to bother with a composite chart? Is it something that you have to be together for a long time before it comes into play?

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