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PrettyPisces
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posted January 29, 2012 04:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PrettyPisces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ive known this boy for 10 years. Been the best of friends for 5 years. he asked me to be with him a couple years back but at the time he just got out of a relationship, and I didnt feel like it came from the heart. plus I just had left for college and I didnt know if the long distance thing was the best for the both of us.
he's direct with him being affectionate and caring and supportive but yet ambigious with his feelings towards me he has said things like:
"I need you a friend someone that truly understands me and cares, Im tired of playing games."
He asked me am I single I said YES! then he went into these huge details lol of how he was waiting for the special one to come around then Im gonna show her all my love and appreciation but until then Im gonna wake my turn every one gets a chance its just what you do with it . I WAS like WHOA! he's emotional which I love about him.
My confession is I actually love him, and I can see my life with him BUT he needs to prove himself and Im in college about to graduate. I need him to understand that school comes first, but I give reassurance that I care for him. things that bother me regarding him: He gets mad if I talk about parties, and college social life. He says he doesnt want me messing around with guys and getting myself caught out there. But hes a lil jealous. Whenever Im busy with school he feels neglected and disappears from me. I also feels he goes back to the basics...basic females that is!
He's been gone for weeks withn contact, just like its over and he always comes back, but I have to beat this cycle and let him go he's hurting me

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posted January 29, 2012 05:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RegardesPlatero     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PrettyPisces:
Ive known this boy for 10 years. Been the best of friends for 5 years. he asked me to be with him a couple years back but at the time he just got out of a relationship, and I didnt feel like it came from the heart. plus I just had left for college and I didnt know if the long distance thing was the best for the both of us.
he's direct with him being affectionate and caring and supportive but yet ambigious with his feelings towards me he has said things like:
"I need you a friend someone that truly understands me and cares, Im tired of playing games."
He asked me am I single I said YES! then he went into these huge details lol of how he was waiting for the special one to come around then Im gonna show her all my love and appreciation but until then Im gonna wake my turn every one gets a chance its just what you do with it . I WAS like WHOA! he's emotional which I love about him.
My confession is I actually love him, and I can see my life with him BUT he needs to prove himself and Im in college about to graduate. I need him to understand that school comes first, but I give reassurance that I care for him. things that bother me regarding him: He gets mad if I talk about parties, and college social life. He says he doesnt want me messing around with guys and getting myself caught out there. But hes a lil jealous. Whenever Im busy with school he feels neglected and disappears from me. I also feels he goes back to the basics...basic females that is!
He's been gone for weeks withn contact, just like its over and he always comes back, but I have to beat this cycle and let him go he's hurting me

Honestly, he has no right to tell you who you can and cannot hang out with, and what you can and cannot do. That is VERY controlling, especially since, to my understanding, you're not even officially a couple!

Plus, he is VERY forceful about his feelings and a bit disrespectful. It feels like he thinks that you OWE him a relationship just because he likes you, and that really isn't fair or right. Maybe I am reading more into this than there is, but I just get that vibe.

I also say that it is good that school comes first for you. Guys may come and go, but a good quality education is forever and is useful not only because many jobs require (or at least want) a bachelor's (minimum), but also because a university/college education really teaches you how to think and opens your mind.

If he cannot understand and support your healthy and sound goals, and is telling you not to hang out with people while he himself is doing that, then frankly he doesn't respect you. He sounds very "machismo-minded": as in, the traditional "me man you woman" type.

I see this as an unhealthy type of Cancer.

I hope that whatever you decide is for the best.

Never compromise yourself for a man or let him take your individuality and freedom away from you, and never let him make your decisions. You are always you and are always your own self, and you belong always to yourself. Your life is yours to live as you choose and is yours to share--or not--with whom you choose.

Best wishes for you; hope that everything turns out well.

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SaggiMC
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posted January 29, 2012 11:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
synastry and divorce http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13745&highlight=synastry+divorce http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=32646&highlight=Divorce
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KarkaQueen
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posted January 29, 2012 11:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarkaQueen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aw man. This reminds me of me(I'm a Cancer). I get angry when I see my friends talk to other people and have a close connection to them, I feel left out and neglected, so I end up being controlling.

I don't know if you should get rid of him or not. The way he acts, and I act, is very unhealthy and will case a bad relationship with him...

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Randall
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posted January 29, 2012 11:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moving to Soul Unions.

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RunAroundScreaming
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posted January 29, 2012 11:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by KarkaQueen:
Aw man. This reminds me of me(I'm a Cancer). I get angry when I see my friends talk to other people and have a close connection to them, I feel left out and neglected, so I end up being controlling.

I don't know if you should get rid of him or not. The way he acts, and I act, is very unhealthy and will case a bad relationship with him...


I'm a cancer and I act like this, too. And I know a lot of other cancers who act like that, too. Then again, my leo best friend used to get jealous if I had other best friends. So i think it's just an indication that he really likes you


There's no reason you should end it with him/. Have a serious heart to heart talk with him in person please

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PrettyPisces
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posted January 30, 2012 01:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PrettyPisces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I understand I really like him too. But I also feel Im paying for his heartache from the past, you see he was dating a girl and he put his all into it just for her to leave him high and dry once she left for college, not only did she break up with him but within weeks she started dating someone whom she know is in a commited relationship and they are expecting their first child(his ex and her bf) I feel bad for him because he's extremely cautious now, So whenever I mention anything about college fun he gets a lil jealous and insecure and thinks Im gonna leave his side. he reached out to me and told me I was missing in action. I told him I was right here (at school) dealing with my school, finals, work, and my personal life...I guess the word "personal" struck a nerve because he did the disappear thing on me and its been weeks and I havent heard from him.

He's causing me to be sad,confused, so "if" he comes back idk if I want him apart of my life. He voices his feelings for me with display affection but yet when he's hurt i dont hear from him.

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RegardesPlatero
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posted January 30, 2012 05:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RegardesPlatero     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
I'm a cancer and I act like this, too. And I know a lot of other cancers who act like that, too. Then again, my leo best friend used to get jealous if I had other best friends. So i think it's just an indication that he really likes you


There's no reason you should end it with him/. Have a serious heart to heart talk with him in person please


It's one thing to be jealous, though, and it's another thing to be controlling. One thing to have the feeling, another to act on it in an unhealthy way.

Telling someone what they can and cannot do when it comes to having a life outside of the relationship and who they can and cannot be around is VERY controlling and unhealthy. Abusers do this in relationships and cut a person off socially to the point that they are completely isolated. It is not normal or good, and it makes it that much harder for the person to escape.

I have a Cancer moon myself.

I personally view this as a very disturbing situation, because I can easily see how this can lead to someone being abused. If he's the "if I can't have you, no one will" type, then that is VERY dangerous.

The other big red flag to me is that to my understanding they aren't in an official relationship! Even in an official relationship it would be unhealthy, but, (and OP, correct me if I am wrong), as I understand it, they are not boyfriend and girlfriend, even.

On the other hand, though, I do think that having a talk might be good, and it might be good to sit down and discuss things.

However, as I said, I see TONS of red flags here.

It's one thing to feel jealousy occasionally, but it's another to act on it and to be unhealthily obsessed with what a person does to the point that you try to control him or her.

I would say that it would be best to tread VERY, VERY carefully in this one and to not ignore any feeling that tells you something is wrong. In my life experience, whenever I have ignored that sick feeling in my stomach, that bad taste in my heart, I have deeply, deeply regretted it.

Love should never lead to a person giving up his or her social life--that is just unhealthy.

As for the other girlfriend, did she ever mention why she left him? No one is ever obligated to stay with a boyfriend/girlfriend if they are unhappy or if they want to move on. She doesn't owe him her love or a relationship. If she wasn't happy, she did technically have the right to leave him--they weren't married/in a civil union or recognized partnership. While it would be wrong if she led him on, used him, cheated on him, lied to him, things like that, it would not be wrong or immoral for her to break up with him if she simply wanted out.

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PrettyPisces
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posted January 30, 2012 10:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PrettyPisces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He has said things like:
Oh it seems like your having funny but don't have too much fun, dont sleep around with guys, but always remember to have one you like then go in from there, then he said " we wouldn't want anything new ok"
and Im like WHOA Im just saying I went to a party lol. He isnt agressive with telling me these things but he is excessive. I feel like he treats this situation broader line friendship/relationship.

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start6030
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posted January 30, 2012 02:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for start6030     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
1. i know a lot of cancerians , nd all r sooooooo alike so dnt worry ..read linda's sun signs she says the exact thing about them...they will hide their feelings, give u hints and want u to be vocal about it , while they take the backstage ...when u hv expressed nd they knw they r safe , they'll pop their head out nd give a bright sunny smile nd be all urs ...bt remember > they r very very possessive they r clingy too.... they jst get nervous when they feel they might be losing u, so they go away(they just pretend..they r afraid of their own feelings)...bt after sm time , they come back..ah , confusing..haha, i know

hmm, not sure , bt may be , if u dnt mind compromising a little on ur own freedom (awwwww, dnt worry sweetheart , i know we alrdy compromise on that bt the guys will still think , they need more....so its upto us wts "enough" for us)...then try like, whn he calls back nd asks where u hv been all tht while , tell him , NOT> was busy with school nd stuff nd life.... tell him this way > omg , i wish u could be here nd help me out with this stuff.... this studies and all.. i wish i am done with them soon...how were u ? i was wondering where u have been ?............"...lolz, so bounce back a question ...........wtevr he replies , then tell him "...u know , there was a party this last week...it was good... u could hv enjoyd it as well....if u had been around.."....so i mean , smtimes , they like US virtually involving them into the things we do..haha, funny about them , bt true

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PrettyPisces
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posted January 31, 2012 01:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PrettyPisces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i hear you hun. I feel if I wanted to solve this I would , i actually thought about reaching out but the ball has been in his court, I get tired of getting hurt once in a while over someone that Im NOT in a relationship with. He knows where I am but yet he hasn't reached out. I guess now is the ? what do I do when and if he does contact me, Im tired of getting my feelings hurt whenever he feels insecure.

His ex broke up with him because he was stressing her out while she was away in school, he cried about it too

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RegardesPlatero
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posted January 31, 2012 06:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RegardesPlatero     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PrettyPisces:
i hear you hun. I feel if I wanted to solve this I would , i actually thought about reaching out but the ball has been in his court, I get tired of getting hurt once in a while over someone that Im NOT in a relationship with. He knows where I am but yet he hasn't reached out. I guess now is the ? what do I do when and if he does contact me, Im tired of getting my feelings hurt whenever he feels insecure.

His ex broke up with him because he was stressing her out while she was away in school, he cried about it too


It seems like this is a pattern with him, if he did the same thing to his ex.

To me, this suggests that he is simply insecure and controlling, and not that this is something new that his relationship with her started. The fact that he acted in a similar way with his ex shows me that this existed in him before she came along.

And again, you're not in a relationship with this person, and he is THIS insecure and controlling. How much worse would it get if he felt like you were actually "his" officially? He already seems to consider you to be his possession. Imagine how much worse it would get if you were his girlfriend, especially if you moved in together or got married down the line. You'd be trapped and suffocated and a prisoner, essentially.

If he's continually hurting you over and over, and makes no effort to change and shows no will or determination to make those changes stick, what will you get out of this association except misery and frustration?

I also think that you resolve your own problem when you say that you would have gotten in touch/contacted him if you had really wanted to do so. I can't help but agree, and I feel like this shows your true feelings about this guy.

If he is going to change for the better, this has to be something that he chooses consciously to work on, that he himself chooses to maintain. You can't change him. He can only change himself and maintain the changes.

Love and friendship are gifts to be earned, and to be shared with the deserving who prove themselves worthy of that deep trust and emotional intimacy (this coming from a Libra Sun/Scorpio Venus). You don't owe him those things, and with the way that he acts, he isn't proving that he would be a good steward of what you have to offer as a friend and as a potential girlfriend.

Before he can ever have a happy and successful relationship, with any woman, be it you or another, he must work on himself and get himself in a better place. If he is not willing to do that, the only type of woman that he'll get is a very submissive type, and she will most likely be miserable with him, even if she stays. He cannot have a happy love until things are well and right within himself.

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posted January 31, 2012 02:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PrettyPisces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I want to thank you for that advance. I spoke to a family member a couple days ago and she informed me on the exact same thing. I always had a feel he was the obsessed type when in came to me. Their was lil sighs of it all along. I know you're right He needs help, and I can't help him. Maybe one day we can all get past this and maybe be friend if not more, I must admit periodically I've been said I've dealing with him for so long (a decade). But today is one of the better days and Im content and at peace with my discussion.

Im considering on a sucessful semester and looking forward to a great birthday (Pisces season) is coming up lol.

I think the only thing the lingers in the back on my mind right now is what do I do when he decides to come back do I ignore or gracefully respond by saying Hi, Im well, life is good and just leave it at that?

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posted February 03, 2012 06:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RegardesPlatero     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PrettyPisces:
I want to thank you for that advance. I spoke to a family member a couple days ago and she informed me on the exact same thing. I always had a feel he was the obsessed type when in came to me. Their was lil sighs of it all along. I know you're right He needs help, and I can't help him. Maybe one day we can all get past this and maybe be friend if not more, I must admit periodically I've been said I've dealing with him for so long (a decade). But today is one of the better days and Im content and at peace with my discussion.

Im considering on a sucessful semester and looking forward to a great birthday (Pisces season) is coming up lol.

I think the only thing the lingers in the back on my mind right now is what do I do when he decides to come back do I ignore or gracefully respond by saying Hi, Im well, life is good and just leave it at that?


I think that you are making a very wise choice by recognizing that you cannot help him and that he has to get help for himself, and that he has to decide to make his own changes.

I also think it's very commendable that you are focusing on school. Good for you! College/university education is so important, not just for getting jobs or teaching you skills, but for teaching how to think and it does open your world so much.

As for what to do when he comes back, if he does: I think that perhaps avoiding him would be better, in this case. If you are too nice or too polite, he may see that as a road in, and he may end up manipulating/trying to seduce you and to get you back under his control. Even if he seems like he has changed, I would say that this person seems very dangerous to me and that it would be better to not let him get too close or to give him a way back into your life and back into the driver's seat. However, that is just my personal opinion.

I really hope that you will have a wonderful birthday and that you'll experience a 'rebirth' of sorts as you move on from this relationship and towards peace and healthier connections.

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posted March 01, 2012 11:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PrettyPisces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So last night I get a text with a quote : how there can be NO friendship w/o confidence, and NO confidence w/0 integrity ! Meanwhile I googled this quote and he only used 25 percent of the quote : The quote orginially speaks on Marriage. Then he goes on to saying he's been trying to contact me : which is a lie, he's just trying to clear his name. Then he said I hope your silence was only an indicative of our understanding. At this point I want out he lies far too much and is too passive aggressive , idk what to say to him without him thinking I'm harsh ! I don't think were friends anymore, and he didn't even acknowledge anything in regards to my bday this weekend...I'm over it

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posted March 15, 2012 03:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RegardesPlatero     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PrettyPisces:
So last night I get a text with a quote : how there can be NO friendship w/o confidence, and NO confidence w/0 integrity ! Meanwhile I googled this quote and he only used 25 percent of the quote : The quote orginially speaks on Marriage. Then he goes on to saying he's been trying to contact me : which is a lie, he's just trying to clear his name. Then he said I hope your silence was only an indicative of our understanding. At this point I want out he lies far too much and is too passive aggressive , idk what to say to him without him thinking I'm harsh ! I don't think were friends anymore, and he didn't even acknowledge anything in regards to my bday this weekend...I'm over it

Honestly, I wouldn't say anything to him at all. I would block him. He is really sounding obsessed and stalker-ish. So many red flags there. I don't mean to scare you, but he honestly sounds like some of those really bad guys--as in, the kind that might harm a woman or really ruin her life by his obsession.

Don't give in, don't go back.

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