Lindaland
  Soul Unions
  Virgo men, flirting and getting over insecurity... oh my!

Post New Topic  Post A Reply
profile | register | preferences | faq

UBBFriend: Email This Page to Someone! next newest topic | next oldest topic
Author Topic:   Virgo men, flirting and getting over insecurity... oh my!
seeker3030
Knowflake

Posts: 473
From: UK
Registered: Dec 2009

posted March 13, 2012 08:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for seeker3030     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi all

A Virgo man and I have recently stumbled across each other’s paths and have made a big impact on each other. There is some serious synastry to explain the ‘lightning bolt’ feeling we have, including his Venus conj my Pluto exact, his sun trine my moon, his Eros conj my Psyche exact, my Eros conj his Juno, his Neptune conjunct my Venus, my Sun conj his South Node etc etc etc. However he is a flirt. Or rather if you listen to his explanation, he’s merely someone who appreciates and comments/compliments people on their appearance. Yep… depends on your perspective of course but I’ve tried to explain that from mine, it cheapens and makes a nonsense of everything he’s said to me that’s made me feel special or unique when I see him comment on others in a similarly effusive manner. Ok he’s not professing undying love to anyone else as far as I know but in my opinion, he’s being complimentary in the manner of a single man rather than someone who’s in a relationship. To his credit he’s taken my opinion on board and understands where I’m coming from but I don’t know that he’s capable of being any other way and quite frankly, I don’t believe I have the right to ask him to be different. If this is part of the whole of him then why should he change to suit me?

So what do I do? Given that this relationship so far is something that has touched every single part of my mind, body and soul and I feel such a potential for learning and growth through these differences that we have, I’m loathe to give up at the first hurdle. I should also mention that I’ve always had a ‘jealous streak’ and when I tell you my Venus is in Scorpio you might understand why! But I genuinely want to work on that. It does no one any good to feel this consumed by jealousy every time their partner’s attention is placed on someone other than them for a moment and so clearly, this is something I need to address in myself. I’ve no doubt that this is something Karmic between us and it feels ‘important’ in many ways. As such I don’t want to shirk the challenge.
Any suggestions, experiences, advice gratefully received!! Thank you

IP: Logged

hippichick
Moderator

Posts: 1202
From:
Registered: May 2009

posted March 13, 2012 12:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
O my goodness dont get me started on Virgo men.

I will tell you that textbook astrology is pretty accurate about these men.

My mother is one, my mother in law and sis in law is one, my bfriend is one...I am a Pisces sun, so here we go...

If you want romance, want steamy romantic evenings, want to feel loved for the sake of love, run from the Virgo.

If you want someone to fix things for you, to tell you how things would be best for you, to analyze and critize you till you are dying inside, then go for the Virgo.

COurse, all of their analysis, critisisms are for your own good.

NO, here is what is really going on.

While they think they want to help you, and really they do, but upon deeper self reflection and soul searching a Virgo man would discover that he is terribly insecure. He finds himself unlovable, ugly, has a poor body image, etc. and projects it all onto others.

(too busy preforming "service" to notice that he is a real, warm blooded man)

Flirting? Mine told me "I have always flirted, and I always will, it is me, get used to it" all the while I am thinking (you flirt cause you dont like yourself and are insecure...been there done that...)

He says he flirts to make women feel good about themselves...another stupid projection...NO, you do it to make yourself feel good about YOU!!!

(never mind I try to tell him~what if somebody takes you serious someday, then how good will you make her feel about herself when you cant go there...)

My bfriend has the perfect knack for switching things (of idiocy) he did and making them my issues, things I did wrong to him...cause he cant fathom that in his world of perfection he could do anything wrong, so [she] did.

My mother raised me telling her sensitive little Pisces "you are an imbisil, you will never amount to anything" etc. I never beleived her, as a very young girl I knew better, but funny how I have attracted emotional abusers all of my life. When I tried to talk to her about this years ago, she denied it all...gasp, how could she, a loving mother (who dumped her kids on their grandparents for several years) say such things. They hear different, they hear what they want to, they hear only what will fit into their self-imposed world of perfection (that is terribly unreal.)

My Virgo mother in law has blamed me for the past TEN years for her son killing himself. Of course she never came off like this, cause a Virgo woman atleast knows acceptable behavior, but confided with my own kids, in their teens that I should have taken a beligerant alcoholic who held me at gunpoint more than a few times, by the hand and lead down the path of sobriety...

Again seeking perfection and projection. IF anybody is to blame it is she...(tho I blame no one, was HIS choice) she abused him terribly, both emotionally and physically when he was little, but she will have no responsibility cause she cant deal in her world of false perfection.

SHE was the perfect mother.

Virgo bfriend and I got into it big this morning, funny how he remembers things I said to be the opposite of what I said and holds me accountable for it.

huh?

Insecure, yes.

They run....bfriend runs....takes off and says "I cant deal with this, too much drama..."

My mother cant handle much drama either.

What they cant deal with is their false world of perfection being sheeat on...being thrown into reality, making them look at the "dirty side of life."

Thus it is possible to manage a relationship with a Virgo, I have leaned on mine with my bfriend to, inpart, heal the past with my mother, cause I am realizing things about her now, me at 50 and she at 75, that I would have never done before.

I have considered and still do at times ending this relationship, however, he will be going back home soon, some 1500 miles from me and the we shall see!

He is really a dear man, and I cant judge him for his inability to see himself as others do.

He is very, very Virgo, but his Mars in Scorpio kind of trips things up for him, and makes him dazzling to me, (Scorp asc, 2 deg syastry conj.)

I am sure I will be back with more...gotta get some house cleaning done!

IP: Logged

hippichick
Moderator

Posts: 1202
From:
Registered: May 2009

posted March 13, 2012 12:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Where is you sun, seeker?

IP: Logged

hippichick
Moderator

Posts: 1202
From:
Registered: May 2009

posted March 13, 2012 01:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Having said all this...I would take a Virgo man, hands down compared to some other signs I have been with.

My mother, my gfriends tell me best to look the other way, but I am just not ready.

IP: Logged

hippichick
Moderator

Posts: 1202
From:
Registered: May 2009

posted March 13, 2012 02:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
O, and I have to say one more thing as this moment, dont ever take their flirtiness as interest in you!!!

It reflects only interest in them!!!

Like I said, been there done that, I was the ultimate flirt at one time...nobody can pull the wool over my eyes!

IP: Logged

seeker3030
Knowflake

Posts: 473
From: UK
Registered: Dec 2009

posted March 13, 2012 02:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for seeker3030     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow!!! Thank you hippichick!! That's really helpful! I take on board everything you say there and it's funny, the flirting thing being due possibly to their own insecurity than anything else rings very true.

This Virgo's Venus and Mercury are in Libra conjunct my Sun and my Pluto and so I can identify with the attraction to and need to comment on beauty in all its forms. I also flirt. Relentlessly! However I'm not quite so free with it as he is somehow. I tend to flirt in a humerous way and (I hope) people can tell it's harmless fun whereas with him, it seems to be almost a mission to tell people how they look! Perfect example of the critical Virgo Sun analysing the details and the Venus/Merc in Libra charming it all into pretty little statements. His Sun is also opposite his Pisces moon so I should imagine there's quite the quandry going on in him most of the time!

Having spent time in his company now I've seen the way he is with me as opposed to others and I trust what I see in his eyes. However... I think I need to work out if and how I'm going to work on this jealousy thing in myself because otherwise the flirting will drive me crazy!! Not sure whether I'll manage it but I intend to have a damn good go!

Thanks again hippichick and I hope that things work out despite the distance and the flirting for you and your Virgo ) xx

IP: Logged

hippichick
Moderator

Posts: 1202
From:
Registered: May 2009

posted March 13, 2012 03:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for reading~

It IS their own insecurity, as I said, been there done that.

There is little more satisfying when a lost soul is filled up with another, and the best way to get it? Flirting.

I gave it up, in my mid 40's, when I realized I could do this, I could gain the attention of ANY man I desired (and woman for that matter), but to what avail?

To come home and look in the mirror and see a pleading, empty soul...

I am an expert at flirting, it is SO easy, but I just cant do it....cause it is false, it is empty.

Back out to more yardwork...

Blessins!

t~~~

IP: Logged

All times are Eastern Standard Time

next newest topic | next oldest topic

Administrative Options: Close Topic | Archive/Move | Delete Topic
Post New Topic  Post A Reply
Hop to:

Contact Us | Linda-Goodman.com

Copyright © 2012

Powered by Infopop www.infopop.com © 2000
Ultimate Bulletin Board 5.46a