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seeker3030
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posted April 18, 2012 07:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for seeker3030     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello all
I have a bit of a 'quandry' with the Virgo man that I'm in a relationship with and just wondered if anyone has experience they can use to shed light on things?

At first it was HUGE overwhelming declarations of love and affection and talking about the fact he felt I was 'the one' and wanting to marry me etc. Arguably, you should never set any store by that I suppose because everyone gets a little 'carried away' in the first flush of attraction. But anyway... that's what it was like.

The other factors in this are that a) he's going through a particularly worrying time financially and that's taken a great deal of his focus. It's deeply depressing and frightening him so ok, his whole outlook is coloured by this at the moment. And b) he's a self confessed appreciator of women. So I see him on FB posting appreciative comments on his female friend's photos. Nothing too lascivious but enough to make me (a Venus in Scorp) start to question all he's said to me. He swears that there's absolutely nothing in it for me to be jealous of and makes the point that why would he say things so openly if there was anything to hide? Also points out that my male friends (many of whom are in relationships or married) do the same on my photos. Jury is still out on this issue because it takes a lot to shut my Scorp Venus up!

The final thing is that at the start he'd been talking about the fact that he couldn't wait to shout his love from the rooftops and tell all his friends, announce it on FB etc (how very teenage haha!) and he was all about talking to me every day. Now I know he's told his friends because some conversations have happened in my presence but as for 'announging it'... well nope. We've recently been through a very 'cool' couple of weeks where we've hardly spoken by phone - he actually said (whilst in a quite ascerbic mood) "Oh so we have to talk every day do we?" Well you can imagine how that made me feel. To be honest it had come after some 'emotional' stuff from me, feeling less than adored so perhaps he just couldn't deal with anymore of that. Fair play.

Ok... so I've read the 'stock' reports of Virgo men taking their time to decide if you're 'the one' and not being very vocal about their feelings etc... and then I look at the way this particular Virgo was at the start which seems to go completely against that. Now he's behaving like the text books haha! So gut feelings... what would you believe and why the pull back? I think it's my emotional 'outburst' that maybe worried him a little. I also think he fell in love with the 'idea' of me in the beginning and has maybe now started to do the Virgo analytical homework on me to make certain of his initial 'hoop-la'... either way, I suppose we'll see.

Just grateful for any of your experiences, Virgo code breaking skills or plain old fashioned common sense haha!

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hippichick
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posted April 18, 2012 04:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
GOsh, I am going to have to start, think about more and consider and post more as I think!

Started out the same with my Very Virgo bfriend and I, a Pisces sun, with Scorp asc and his Scorp Mars conj my asc.

(I finally once and for all deleted my fb with him on it, just couldnt deal.)

He started out stating his happiness, his love, etc for finally finding someone, all his old highschool friends (1500 miles away) were happy for him, we were very attracted to eachother and very happy to be together.

Well, things went on and the norms of relationship began to raise their somewhat ugly heads.

First his filitations. Said he was always a flirt, didnt intend to change for me, whatever, been there done that, they can be a bit insecure about themselves and flirt to gain better fulfillment. Tho he said it was to make the women make them feel better about themselves, I knew better.

Posted once about how "delicious" an old FB friend looked, in a skanky bikini and boy you dont think I mentioned that to him. Told him that was an inappropirate thing to say for a man in a relationship. He even talked to a coupla of gals who told him their husbands would be packin if they had said that!

More and more "I miss you's? Love ya's" etc to his old high school friends...but I finally got over it and recognized it as an insecurity issue of his. It finally stopped.

A year and 3 months later, we are still together, but not whithou lots of problems. His harsh critiscms are the main thing and boy dont ever try to criticise them back...o heavens NO!!!

I have learned that the hard way and nearly broke us up recently when I made mention of him and his two very grown brothers still live at home (well he will return to when he goes back up north.)

One of my big issues with him is his always joking....he went last September to take care of his sick dad in Florida, we are in Texas and, still in the honeymoon stage, confessed to me over the phone "I could never be without you for this long again, no matter where I have to live...." When I asked him about it, much later as he had decided to go ahead and go back up north way earlier than I had expected, he said "dont believe everything I say" then another mention later, "well, you can believe somethings I say."

WOW! wish I could cop out like that!!!

And he is always joking, doesnt like drama (sure does draw alot of it to himself) and likes life to be fun and fancy free..

It took me MONTHS to get over the statement he said to me about not believing everything he says, I was deeply hurt and for him to hold against and punish me for some dumb angry **** I said, well it was different, of course. What is good for the goose is never good for the gander, I have learned with this Virgo man.

It sounds like yours is going thru a bit of of the same. Falling head over heals, then when the bliss and fogginess of the falling thing begins to wear off, they show their true colors.

luck to you and all of us!!! LOL

will post more later!!!

t~~~

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seeker3030
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posted April 18, 2012 05:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for seeker3030     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My God are we dating the same man haha!!! Seriously though I recognise EVERYTHING you've said!!! I was expecting differences like you get with life... but honestly that's almost a carbon copy of the energies and behaviour I'm experiencing!!!

Well... lord alone only knows where this will all end up but it's certainly not boring! Good luck with yours and I'll hope for some luck this way too... think we're going to need it ;D

*edited to add* I broke it off last night and have blocked him on FB. Couldn't stand seeing him behave as if he was single after all the stuff he'd said to me. Oh well, it's all experience.

Thanks for sharing your experiences. xx

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hippichick
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posted April 20, 2012 02:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Seeker, you know I was raised by a Virgo mom in part, with partnership of my grandparents.

Not to mention my former mother in law and sis in law are both Virgos.

I will go to my grave speaking out of the gender diffences of the Virgo, and all the sun signs. There are a few lovely Virgo ladies who post here and defend Virgo, and I am quite sure they are correct in what they say about themselves.

I think, first in astrology, we have to understand the energy of the Sun sign first (or for that matter any planet), then place the male or female energy onto the sign energy.

Alot of folks make that mistake.

I dated a Pisces man and I, for the life of me, can not figure out where he was coming from...despite me being a Pisces sun as well.

I hesitate to post on Pisces threads, especially if they are male.

Taking that in to consideration, my mother, my mother in law are both very critical, but expressed in a different way, in a more "motherly" way, whereas the boyfriend expressed in a more "wanna fix ya" kind of way.

All that said, the Virgo man stands alone.

I have said before, femanine signs, for males are just plain hard to handle from their very inner being.

They feel one way and feel they, due to societly expressed norms, have to act in another, one reason I dont post on Pisces men...it IS hard for all of them.

Yea, the Virgo, gotta love them, but what is a lady to do?

My plans are to just bide my time, lay low and see what becomes of all this. I am 50 friggin years old and I am not going to mess around with this relationship bullcrap again...too stressful for an already stressed soul.

I love him dearly, but being such opposites, I see the complimentaries, but frankly I get tired of listening to him stating how we are not on the same page, not even the same book.

Leave it to dysfunctional me, to get involved with a never much involved Virgo man...

Well, that is the plight of the Pisces anyway!


Thanks to you for posting!!!


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hippichick
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posted April 21, 2012 05:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Seeker I am going to borrow this from a someone online I found.

I have decided to not take my Virgo man seriously, very, very hard for the lovelorn Pisces lady, but IF he will not be serious with me, then phooy!!!

I like this lady's perspective!!!
http://www.dxpnet.com/opinion/virgo/I-can-t-take-Virgo-men-seriously-in-relationships-2493543.asp

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seeker3030
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posted April 24, 2012 09:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for seeker3030     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow!!! Amen to all of that!!!! This Virgo keeps messaging me and swinging between asking to be friends and then saying he misses me/still loves me and meant everything he said.... must be getting hard in my old age because I told him to prove it. I won't be holding my breath

hippichick I don't think we can take them seriously sadly. Anyone who blows hot and cold so often in that 'mercurial' way just can't be relied upon in this kind of relationship as far as I can see. Well not by someone who operates a relationship under the traditional perameters of trust, honesty, stability etc. I told him a load of home truths - said that if he carries on the way he's behaving he'll risk being a very elderly 'Alfie...' I'm sure he'll defend himself as they seem to do because they can dish the criticism but boy they cannot take it!!!

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hippichick
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posted April 24, 2012 10:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
GOOD for you!!!

I used to throw his crap back at him, but I got in so much trouble for doing it, I finally took the lower road and just kept my mouth shut, but sometimes, just sometimes..

Yep, cant take them seriously, and I feel so good about my decision not to, anymore. I can and do give too much of me in relationships, well I cant anymore, too darn tired.

Here is a perfect Virgoan, especially man Virgoan statement for ya:

I have been very sick lately, my allergies got me into a terrible sinus infection, make the mistake for the umteenth time of turning to my bfriend for support, told him how terrible I feel, etc. his reply?

"you should be grateful you have a new job in a new hospital, with a raise making twice as much as I do....."

HUH?

Now THAT did get thrown back in his face, my mother, in her younger years would have said the same thing, but has learned with me, finally to not go there.

uggggggggggggg!

terri~

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