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MorningDew79
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posted May 09, 2012 10:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MorningDew79     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So my cancer guy and I had another fight tonight. We haven't fight in a week or two. But lately I've been having problems with my ex-husband (long story) and I've been on the brink of just falling apart last night. Cancer guy called me on his way to work yesterday and our Skype service wasn't too good so maybe he can't really hear me but I started crying on the phone when I told him "I'm so tired of these mess..." He replied: "Well then go to bed. How was gym?"

I tried to let that go.

Then today, I tried pushing him away because I'm still feeling so crappy. He wasn't buying it but he didn't exactly convinced me that he wants to be with me. Instead he said "Babe, everything will be fine..." and that really is just part of what I needed to hear from him.

So after we talked on the phone today, I message him saying I'm sorry for pushing him away, that I just need that reassurance from him.

He called tonight (morning there) and he started yelling at me for saying that. He said "You said that one more time about the reassurance thing! How many times should I tell you I'm not going anywhere?!" and that just froze me. I can't say anything but feeling the stabs of what he said and how he reacted. When I didn't say anything he started cursing and yelling at me. So I hang up.

I emailed him saying maybe it's better if we put an end to all this. I can't help but being needy when my life has been so yucky lately. That I'm trying so darn hard to look strong in front of everyone else in my life and I just need him.

This is so frustrating. I love him but I can't stand being yelled at for telling him how I feel.

He message me back saying I better sleep on it and if that's what I really want then it's over but he's not going to chase after me. He said he's done that before with other girls so he's doing doing it anymore.

If it's any help here's his synastry with mine: http://i1048.photobucket.com/albums/s368/tatterscoops/DM.gif

I just don't know what to do anymore so I welcome any of your opinion. Thank you!

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Faith
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posted May 09, 2012 11:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He's got a Saturn, Venus, Mercury stellium in Leo, wow. His sun on the Cancer-Leo cusp makes him oscillate between very emotional and not emotional...my guess is, he struggles to communicate, and when you don't understand him, he takes it as a personal failure.

Plus your Saturn conjunct his Mars explains this interaction a bit:

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Where Mars rushes right in, Saturn carefully appraises the situation before he goes into it, if he doesn't withdraw from it altogether. Mars can have much to learn from Saturn—Mars can learn how to think a little before acting, and tone down his or her aggressiveness and impatience. As well, Saturn has much to learn from Mars. Saturn may secretly long to be just like Mars, going after what it wants without fear of failure.
http://www.cafeastrology.com/articles/synmarssaturn.html

I think he might consider himself the serious one (Saturn conjunctions), but you perceive him as the impulsive one (his Mars versus your Saturn.)

And then his sun is opposite your Venus...

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The more difficult aspects (opposition, square, and quincunx) can point to some problems and discord. The value system of the Venus native in this case is at odds with the Sun native's general outlook and life path. Each person tends to over-indulge the other at times, and frustrate one another the next day. Finding the Sun too dictatorial or self-righteous at times, the Venus person can resort to "playing games", passive-aggressiveness, appeasement, or charming the Sun into doing what he or she wants. The Venus person might also resent the Sun person, as Venus goes out of his/her way to please the Sun person and may not get what he/she wants in return. The Sun person may not appreciate the Venus person, or take Venus for granted. The square, in particular, can be challenging. The give and take of the relationship is tallied up, as Venus in particular wants to make things "fair" and balanced. As a result, when one person gives, the other senses that they are now obligated to give something in return. Depending on the natures of the individuals involved, this can be draining or stimulating!

http://www.cafeastrology.com/synastry/sun_venus_aspects.html

It looks difficult. But if you want it to last...well, your Jupiter is right there with his stellium, so maybe it can?

I will defer now to better astrologers.

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MorningDew79
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posted May 09, 2012 11:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MorningDew79     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Faith, thank you so much for your advice and for laying the astrology aspects out for me. I'm still trying to figure this out so your reply has been really really helpful.

His sun on Cancer-Leo cusp explains a lot of things. When I met him he was so loving, so sweet but lately he's been I don't know different. Yes, he still calls daily and tell me he love me but not as intense as it was before.

That interactions you described for my Saturn conjuct his Mars is so spot on! OMG!

It scares me when he's mad because he would snapped and said really hurtful things. He's not a morning person so he can blow off chewing my ears off if I set him off by saying the wrong things in the morning. This has made me learned to be more careful in what I said.

Also his sun opposite my Venus...yes. He frustrates me a lot and he got frustrated too easily. He's very demanding at times as in he loves telling me what I need to do and how I need to do it ASAP.

The fact that he leave it all up to me now and said he won't chase really hurts me. I'm not asking him to chase me. I just...I don't know want to see him fight to keep us together.

He and I haven't meet in person yet. The plan was for him to come see me in November.

He's very good with my son and he treats my son like his own although from a far. He calls my son every day just to talk to him. So that's one of the reasons why I love him deeply but one part of me feel so hurt that my need for reassurance was met by his aggressiveness.

Thank you again Faith!

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MorningDew79
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posted May 09, 2012 11:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MorningDew79     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:
It looks difficult. But if you want it to last...well, your Jupiter is right there with his stellium, so maybe it can?

I will defer now to better astrologers.


Faith, I'm sorry but what does that mean with my Jupiter with his Stellium? I will google it up. Thanks again!

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Faith
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posted May 09, 2012 11:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your Jupiter, planet of luck, is conjunct his sun and the other planets very close to his sun. Bunch of planets together = stellium.

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When your Sun conjuncts your partner's Jupiter, the partnership is often viewed as a great pleasure. Your partner will ultimately give you the benefit of the doubt in most everything you do. Of course, you shouldn't abuse that faith! It doesn't mean that you will always be "forgiven". What it does mean is that your partner puts a large dose of faith into you, and generally views you with warmth and good favor. You are likely to respond to your partner by pulling up the very best from inside of you. Even though difficulties can arise between you, there is generally good will between you that is distinctive.
http://www.cafeastrology.com/synastry/sun_jupiter_aspects.html

But I just realized he has moon square Uranus:

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People with these aspects in their natal chart are studies in contradiction. When they are able to fulfill their emotional needs for closeness, support, and intimacy, another part of their personality rebels. They feel closed in, restricted, and uncomfortable with feelings of dependency. However, when they are left alone on an emotional level, they can feel left out. They begin to crave closeness and intimacy once again. They keep people at an emotional arm's length often enough, yet struggle with their emotional independence.

http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/moonuranusaspects.html

I don't know if it looks over or not...Rosalind in personal readings does a better job with that, you might want to post there. http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum11/HTML/003288.html


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MorningDew79
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posted May 10, 2012 02:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MorningDew79     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you so much Faith!
Actually, Rosalind did a reading on her thread from my synastry and it doesn't look too good.

She said:
Q1: First thing I noticed was that Uranus in 7th house both natally and synastry. Or you are unstable in your relationships or you attract unstable partners. The ruler of your 7th house natally is in 6th. Or your partner use to be a coworker or you love more your work that your relationships. Either way you need to balance this area of your life.
Q2: What you have with this man is karmic but wont last. You do feel comfortable with each other but that Saturn in 4th house is problematic on long term. Mars in 5th house shows sexual attraction but nothing more. The synastry does not promise marriage or long term relationship.
Q3: Composite looks even worse. No planets in 7th. No planets in 1st. Mars and Neptune are in 5th. Sexual and idealistic romance. That Venus and Uranus shows instability in the domestic life. Saturn in 2nd may bring financial problems. You two may argue because of money. Sun is in 11th house. Nope... this relationship is not good.

A little update, I message him this morning saying I don't want us to break up but I don't want to get yelled at when all i really wanted was some love from him after my ex is again trying to make things hard for me and my son. He said he don't want us to end too but I do need to tell him exactly that. I apologized for not being able to flat out say "I really need you right now" and I don't know why I have to bottled it up inside. He said I need to learn to basically tell him after something happens and not wait until he get it out from me.

Yesterday, before all these happened he did message me and ask if something is wrong but of course I lied and said nothing's wrong. I ended up trying to push him away when all I want is him. And when I apologize for trying to push him away he was on his way to bed and he said that made him unhappy and that's probably a good reason why he snapped and yelled on the phone when he woke up.

We both apologized and made up.

Thank you for explaining the Jupiter and Stellium part, Faith.

What you said about his Moon square Uranus...I can see that in him. He can suddenly feels so distant like he's detaching himself while he would still call or chat with me and when I ask if something is wrong he said he's fine. But then he can turn around and be very sweet. He does spend a lot of times alone but also still maintain a close relationship with his family. He's not the typical Cancer that I read very close to his mom. They do spend family times but he never talks as if he idolize her too much.

Anyway, thank you again so much Faith! I guess he and I have a lot to learn. He did told me "I'm all in Babe. Remember that!"

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Faith
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posted May 10, 2012 08:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the update

Relationships fascinate me.

I made a mistake, he has moon opposed to Uranus- but the reading for that is the same as the square.

Your birthday is March 2? That's "The Day of Undying Loyalty" according to my favorite birthday book. Do you find it hard to let go of people?

Some people here disagree with Rosalind about certain things. Some say Uranus in the 7H just means you will have an unconventional relationship...and there is nothing negative about that, it's just different. Like you might marry a person of another race.

I wonder why she said composite sun in 11H is no good. Maybe she's saying, this is better for friendship since 11H is the house of friendship.

Anyway, best wishes to you...we are always around here if you'd like to talk more

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MorningDew79
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posted May 10, 2012 08:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MorningDew79     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Faith, you are giving me faith in this Can't thank you enough!

Yes, I did ended up looking and reading a lot more about Uranus being on my 7th house. I recognize the unconventional aspects of it because my ex husband is not the same race as me (I'm Asian) and ever since I was little I'm not attracted to other Asian men and it's so hard to explain why to others. My family is fine with that now because now they know it's just how I am lol.

Yes, my birthday is on March 2...yes it's hard for me to let go of people. I've struggled so much after my divorce because my ex cheated on me numerous times.

Thank you again and have a blessed day! Hugs!

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