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TrueTaurus
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posted October 27, 2012 05:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TrueTaurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello everyone, I was hesitant about writing about this guy here because I wanted to prove to myself that I could figure him out. A part of me thinks that he is just not into me, but another part of me won't let him go, as I have never felt this sort of connection before.
I had been in a two year relationship that was passionate and intense, but equally problematic due to differences and trust issues. He was an Aries/Aries/Libra. I always wanted that same level or better level of passion with the next guy I was going to be with. I went on numerous dates but the connection wasn't there. Until I met this guy recently.

His birthday is May 16th, 1979. A Taurus Sun like me, and I'm most sure his Moon is in Capricorn. From my observation, it seems correct. That would leave him with a Taurus mercury, Venus in Aries, as well as Mars in Aries...I'm unsure about his Mars, but it seems so...Also, it's not that important.

Anyhow,
He was immediately interested in me and the chemistry was out of this world. We were both very turned on that night, but of course it was felt more strongly on his end. I told him it's too bad he lived so far and I live with my mother. The second date, without even telling me, he booked a room at a hotel near the ocean where I live. I was surprised and hesitant, but I went along with it because I wanted to. The chemistry was just so good.
After that, we went out on another date to the movies and to dinner. During that time, he passionately kissed me and held my hand in front of everybody. Like he would repeatedly kiss me passionately during the movie with his hand on my leg, and kissed me at every stop light, and whenever we'd be on an escalator. I told him I liked him at the restaurant because it felt right. He said he liked me too.

After that date, he disappeared for a bit, not aswering my text. He told me he felt I really liked him and that he doesn't think he could handle a relationship right now. I told him I'm not looking to dive into one either...

He ignored me once again sometime after another date that night...
I was tired of it and gave him an ultimatum text saying that I was sure I made it clear to him that I see no point in frivolous dating, and that I would not have a sexual relationship with him if he did not show any consistent/fixed behavior towards me.
He apologized and said that he is very attracted to me but he is not eager to jump into a relationship as his past one ended rather badly. I reassured him that I am not looking to jump into one either!

In fact, I never even brought up the subject of exclusivity or relationship, yet that is his biggest worry.

The last time I was saw him was about two weeks ago. We went to the movies and he wanted to have a drink with him. We have seen each other maybe 5 or 6 times only, and the only time we had sex was that night at the hotel. He lives a bit far, yet he still drove down to see me.

He ignored me once again and this time I was heartbroken. I poured out my feelings in text, sometimes mad, sometimes apologetic, but mostly expressive and friendly.

Lastly, I sent him a facebook message saying that he should block me here so that he doesn't need to receive anymore messages from me.

He replied back to that message as soon as he read it saying...He was a total douchebag and that he was being completely mean, and that the fact that he had been busy working and flew to Iowa for few days didn't make a good excuse for his avoidance.

He just said that he's traveling the road alone for a while, maybe a little longer, he said. I'm not sure what that means, but it seems he doesn't want to be tied down with anything.

And he said that he wishes me well as well (as I had said in my previous message), and he said that bussiness has a way of distancing people...

That was it...

I messaged him after that for clarification because if he doesn't want me to be a part of his life anymore, then I'd respect that and leave him alone...

Somebody, please help me deal with this. For the time being, of course I am trying my best to keep my mind off of him and I will be dating other people. But the connection I feel with him is out of this world...and he seems to feel the same, yet, I'm just more emotionally attached.

I'm a Taurus Sun with a Scorpio Moon and a Cancer Ascendant.

I have no idea what is Rising is as he was adopted. Any thoughts would help tremendously...I am feeling all sorts of emotions, including feeling pathetic and humiliation with the fact that I am so hung up over this guy.

I have a Scoprio Moon, squared to Mars...I can take some truth. Even if it hurts like **** I can take it. I just want him to be honest with me.
I was also really surprised he replied to my facebook message since I hadn't heard from him for two weeks! If he wanted to get rid of me, he could have easily just continued to ignore me. I am very confused...Not sure if this makes any difference, but I met him online. A month later I checked to see if his profile was still up, but it wasn't...it's still down. I don't think he had deleted it but had disabled it. We have an age gap of 9 years as well, but that didn't seem to be an issue. I was born on May 2nd, 1988.

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Randall
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posted October 28, 2012 03:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nine years is common nowadays.

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"Never mentally imagine for another that which you would not want to experience for yourself, since the mental image you send out inevitably comes back to you." Rebecca Clark

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TrueTaurus
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posted October 28, 2012 05:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TrueTaurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The age gap is not a problem for me and it's gap isn't really felt.
But, he is obviously not interested in me anymore...or maybe it is common for Capricorn Moons to withdraw from 'dating' if they're not sure whether they're ready for a relationship. He was clear that he wasn't ready for one, and from the looks of it he doesn't seem to be dating somebody else.
His last sentence, "business does have a way of distancing people, you know..."
As a Taurus mercury, I don't try to beat around the bush. He is one too, so hopefully, that is what he meant, and that he is just busy working and working on himself, rather than scatteredly involved in a semi-relationship when he's not ready for it, and not so accomplished in his worklife.
I told him I wish him well and that next time he talks to a girl, sudden disappearance and ingoring only causes drama, rather than a peaceful goodbye. I told him I forgive him but once was enough.
So far in this whole ordeal, he has only responded to 1/10th of my messages, so I know he will not reply. In honesty, I don't think he knows what to say or knows what he wants. A part of me hopes that he still has a soft spot for me...and that he realizes my craziness is due to being ignored...In my defense, imagine being ignored and tell me how it feels.
For a Scorpio Mooner, that's unimaginable, especially when things seemed to be running smoothly.

I hope that one day he comes to his senses and realizes what he's lost. I'm of a rarity, for sure, in looks, brains, and character.

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AscTaurus
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From: Pretoria, Gauteng,South Africa
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posted November 01, 2012 05:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AscTaurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
First off,

Please understand and intenalize this; the way a person reacts towards you loving them have little to do with you, but their own concept(warped or otherwise) view of love.

If they cannot find consistency in their view with your expression, they'll panic and run the opposite direction; leaving you feeling like you are the "crazy" one.

Secondly, a man's idea/expression of love is strongly affected by the maternal figures. And his idea of how to be a man or what it is to be "masculine" is strongly affected by the paternal figures.

Just looking at his numerological number, he is a number 2; a very senstive number that basicaly has overlapping themes sorrounding women, home, affection, belonging, security, the domestic scene. Very strong Caner/4th house themes.

You, on the other hand have a Venusian 6; balance, co-orperation, pleasure, enjoyment, sensuality, marriage, relationships,"togetherness" etc. Very strong Libra/Taurus 7th/2nd house themes.


Now, keeping this in mind and much of what you've written(which I'll qoute as I go on), I've examined your charts with respect to Venus (in your case) and Moon (in his)

Immediately, I saw that his Moon was in Capricorn; an akward place for the moon to express tenderness, nurturing and affection. He may have viewed his early life(no matter how "comfortable" his setting was as "cold" or "lacking in affection").

The fact that you mentioned he is adopted pointed me to the tense square the moon has with Venus. Tense aspects with the moon usualy mean a man who has trouble with maternal figures, showing affection or recognizing the need for tenderness within himself.

Venus square moon has trouble expressing affection to women or being vulnerable. Trouble, atleast, with women or recognizing within oneself, the needs that are considered "feminine". It also could mean a rough early home environment that tugged on his inner sense of security.

The trouble first is within oneself(Capricorn). The individual is unable to recognize his own tenderness and therefore cannot express this to others. This is the only energy one knows and this becomes his "comfort " zone(moon).

The second instance is the square to Venus. Here the emotions are expressed in a way that is averse to what one is comfortable with(Capricorn).

The expression of these emotions is fast and furious, spontaneous , superflous and sexual(Aries). One does this to detach them from what feels comfortable(Capricorn) and what's real i.e Slow, steady, consistant, non-flashy, quiet, discreet etc.

He was immediately interested in me and the chemistry was out of this world. We were both very turned on that night, but of course it was felt more strongly on his end.

Venus in Aries often reacts with excitement to love prospects and wants to get to the "crux" as soon as possible. This, however, is in direct contrast to the moon and this could give him the feeling that "it won't last" so if it happens, let it happen now and "let's forget about it".


"The second date, without even telling me, he booked a room at a hotel near the ocean where I live. I was surprised and hesitant, but I went along with it because I wanted to. The chemistry was just so good."

Again, the spontaneous nature of Venus showing itself up again. A cap moon would have behaved muchmore diffrently. It is clear that it Venus acting herein.

"After that, we went out on another date to the movies and to dinner. During that time, he passionately kissed me and held my hand in front of everybody. Like he would repeatedly kiss me passionately during the movie with his hand on my leg, and kissed me at every stop light, and whenever we'd be on an escalator. I told him I liked him at the restaurant because it felt right. He said he liked me too.

The conjunction between Venus and Mars in Aries/Taurus respectively increases his sexual fascination and makes him all touchy feely with you. Note that nohwere is the reactive square of Moon in conservative Capricorn to be found.

After that date, he disappeared for a bit, not aswering my text. He told me he felt I really liked him and that he doesn't think he could handle a relationship right now. I told him I'm not looking to dive into one either...

Finaly, the moon in Cap dives in and halts everything to a fool stop. Notice how you never mentioned that you wanted a relationship? It was HIS venus-Mars conjunction in Aries that "jumped the gun", so he was already defending himself against his own desires. Twisted.lol


The last time I was saw him was about two weeks ago. We went to the movies and he wanted to have a drink with him. We have seen each other maybe 5 or 6 times only, and the only time we had sex was that night at the hotel. He lives a bit far, yet he still drove down to see me.

Here the Venus-Mars conjunction pulled forward and wanted more of the old stuff again. Notice how he put on the charm and apologized for his "behaviour"? Again, the Cap Moon was nowhere in sight.

And he said that he wishes me well as well (as I had said in my previous message), and he said that bussiness has a way of distancing people...

The Cap Moon shows up again.This time intent on cutting all ties.

He also has an added square with Pluto(desire for complete autonomy and control)in Libra (relationships). This explains his actions and "playing them down" without real explanation. But this will show itself a little more when you get to live with him.(Libra)

With so many squares to the Moon(incuding an opposition to Jupiter), I see a commitment phobe who is disguising his vulnerability to affection bak-forth attitudes.Most of the battle he wages on himself and has little to do with you.

You left an impression; that is for sure. His Venus-Mars conjunction won't forget that, but it won't be easy with the tense square to the moon, to make it legimate(lest he work out his mommy issues-which I suspect he really has)

On you side, you have a free-flowing Venus in Gemini(as I suspected numerologically) interrupted by a retrograde Uranus and Saturn(slightly). note: a planet in retrograde is like the energy of that planet is on steroids, the reults are seldom consistently good.

The Venus -Saturn retrograde opposition with Saturn makes you attracted to older partners/ people who show a certain level of maturity/ people who are "emotionally controlled". His moon in Cap is a dead giveaway.

But with this opposition, you not sure that you want commitment though, as you really want to play the field as far and as wide as is possible. Till you have enough.

This is likely to add to his nervousness about you,; given his dicey relatuionship with women(moon).

Also, the retograde Uranus opposing your Venus does not help matters. Yes, you are extremely attractive, even downright addictive, but you can change your mind about something/someone as quickly as you formed it.

The Uranus retrograde insists in originality/spotaneity in aspect to Venus(hence your absolute "love" of PDA'S) but is also not very consistent long-term wise.

Are you sure that you not yearning for him bcause he is the one that "got away"? Your Moon-Mercury opposition suggests that you are in "two" minds about your feelings; and this is not promising at all.

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TrueTaurus
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posted November 01, 2012 12:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TrueTaurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That was unbelievably accurate. AscTaurus, thank you.

Your analysis of him is on spot.
After sending him numerous messages online, pouring out my feelings. I had a talk with a close friend and she put me to my senses...
I'm one for monogamy, and I'm not keen on dating around either. I've dated enough men in the past year where all they wanted was one thing and nothing more. Superficial relationships are very unsatisfying for my Scorpio Moon...
Venus in Gemini makes me curious, but I don't have a wandering eye. If one thing I'm just hugely attracted to wit and humor...and this guy is absolutely hilarious and hits that spot.
I think that really attracted me, plus his Moon in Capricorn. Yes, I have a thing for older men, well, more like maturity. He doesn't seem very mature though. Although I can sense that his intuition is good. Not 15+ years, but for guys around his age.

So, after I came to my senses yesterday. I wrote him a message saying his behavior was completely rude and incosiderate. Having a 12th house stellium and strong Taurus/Scorpio Opposition, I take values very seriously. I care very much about ethics and how people should treat one another...I told him in my message that I was stupid for pouring out my feelings and telling him that I think he wants time alone and some space, and I was happy to give him that. I still am very happy to give him his space if he needs it. But that's if he makes it clear he wants me to wait and that he's just figuring things out. I said that the way he's treating me is beyond rude and shows poor character, and that is a deal breaker for me. I said, "as you know, I can't be with somebody who is cold and doesn't care about me." (we had a conversation where he agreed I couldn't be with somebody cold). I told him I'm closing the door for myself and good bye. I also told him nothing in the world excuses him for not contacting me, unless somebody had died, and we both know that's not the case.

He immediately responded to that message last night. I was sure surprised. You're right. I think I did leave an impression on him.

He was like, 'no no no, no body died. i've just been working a lot...it's been a while since i've worked (he's a freelancer). he said he's used to working alone and he doesn't even think about it. he said it's still hard for him to think about committing to someone. "i know, it's a pain," he said, and "I've been a pain not responding and all." and then he just went off saying some stuff about how when we meet the chemistry is there and it sticks to my brain, then when he steps away I get upset, and that it is ****** ...on him.
He is a writer but clearly his message was written quickly and out of emotion because I could barely understand what he was saying.

But him being a pain is a complete understatement. I had probably sent him like a total of 6-7 messages.
I am surprised he hasn't blocked me on facebook. Seems like he doesn't want to. and seems like he feels pulled in two directions.

But like he finally admitted, he is a commitment phobe. I wish he would've told me that at the very begining instead of telling him he likes being in a relationship. The guy needs to be able to deal with these issus...for god's sake he's 33.

I feel like I can finally let go of this. If he ever---wants to make this happen. It's going to take tremendous effort on his part. He will need to be ready to commit and make up for it big time.

I'm not going to reply to that message. I was deeply hurt by something that could have been avoided. And like I told him I closed the door for us both.

Taurus 12th, Scorpio 6th, Cancer Rising.

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