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Topic: Could this be a twinsouls or soulmates thing???
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waitingforyou Knowflake Posts: 159 From: Registered: Mar 2012
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posted January 04, 2014 11:00 AM
Outer planets (Uranus, Neptune, Pluto) aspecting each other's ascendants in synastry all within 3 deg. (All 3 planets aspecting both ascendants in synastry).Also in composite. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 10307 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted January 04, 2014 01:29 PM
If it is the only thing, no. Might rather point to karmic stuff, or some sort of transformation that has to occur, some sort of evolutionary purpose.HOWEVER, it does not exclude the possibility of soulmates or twinsouls either, but there will have to be much more personal things, especially in terms of the angles and luminaries PLUS a strong reflection of complementary patterns or mirroring. Twinsouls tend to have more of a complementary theme, while the mirroring is more often found in soulmates. Well, both appears in both cases (natal - synastry - composite), but the scale tilts to complementary with twinsouls (at least how we tend to define them) and to mirroring with soulmates. IP: Logged |
waitingforyou Knowflake Posts: 159 From: Registered: Mar 2012
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posted January 04, 2014 01:57 PM
Thanks so much for replying I don't know about the mirroring/complementary part, but the asteroid connection is also there. Isis conjunct Osiris Eros opposite Psyche Pluto conjunct Persephone Jupiter square Juno = 3.5deg Amor trine Valentine..................... the presence of these aspects also indicates something like soulmates/twinsouls right??
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Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 10307 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted January 04, 2014 02:45 PM
Well let me put it this way.Soulmaets/ twinflames tend to have these aspects, yes. But not everyone who shares these aspects is soulmates/twinsouls. Makes it a bit complicated, righ? Just think of it, I share with John Cusack:
Proserpina square Pluto Pluto conjunct Persephone Psyche conjunct Eros precise Ishtar opposite Adonis Zeus conjunct Hera Ariadne opposite Bacchus exact Dionysos trine Ariadne exact I can assure you though we are no soulmates.
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waitingforyou Knowflake Posts: 159 From: Registered: Mar 2012
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posted January 05, 2014 06:52 AM
Haha Okay can u plz explain what is this mirroring/complementary thing in charts? Other than this, what shud be there? IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 10307 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted January 07, 2014 04:50 AM
"Okay can u plz explain what is this mirroring/complementary thing in charts?"mirroring: you share the same natal aspect. For example: You both have Venus-Pluto-aspect or Mars-Saturn Especially if it is the same aspect, it will come up in composite as this aspect or as a conjunction/ opposition. If you have different aspects, the composite aspect might be different than both of the natal aspects, and sometimes not even present at all, depending on the aspects and their orbs. complementary: The complementary planets are Sun-Moon Venus-Mars (for the personal aspects) on a broader level Jupiter - Saturn NEptune - Pluto (some say Uranus-Neptune, but I don`t agree with that) Now if you have Venus-Saturn-aspect and he has Mars-Saturn-aspect, that would be a complementary aspect. "Other than this, what shud be there?" Astrologers have many different opinions on this one.
While generous orbs migth still be valid, soulmates and twinflames tend to have several very tightorbed aspects between significant planets (max. 2 degrees). There will be tight aspects, especially conjunction or square of personal or significant planets to - the angles (- Vertex) - nodal axis In fact if there is no such alignment with the angles and nodal axis, it is very questionable if these are soulmates at all. Soulmates also will have strong (tightorbed, dynamic aspects) alignment of the lunar symbols, including IC, Moon, nodal axis, Lilith and Priapus
It seems that connections to the IC are more indicative of soulmates or soulfamily, but not necessarily romantic.
Romantic soulmates will have a strong triggering of their 7th and especially their 8th house. Specifically in aspect to the 1st and 2nd house of the other person (of these the connection 8-2 seems to be the most profound, deep and soulconsuming). I also found that connections of 7th and 8th house to the 4th house, oftentimes give a feeling of belonging, though it is usually not romantic on its own. Sometimes you can see complementing souls from the chart visual alone. Sharing personal planets in the same sign (usually complementary planets), but in a different hemisphere.
Example: Girl has Moon in Virgo in 4th house Boy has Sun in Virgo in 10th house Of utmost importantce though is the composite chart. STrong connections show strong patterns there. ESpecially repeated patterns from the natals or synastry, including midpoint patterns. IP: Logged |
waitingforyou Knowflake Posts: 159 From: Registered: Mar 2012
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posted January 07, 2014 11:53 AM
Hey thanks! I asked because I thought that the mirroring/complementary aspects you mentioned was related to the elements/modalities of each person's chart..... IP: Logged |
waitingforyou Knowflake Posts: 159 From: Registered: Mar 2012
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posted January 08, 2014 07:32 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Romantic soulmates will have a strong triggering of their 7th and especially their 8th house. Specifically in aspect to the 1st and 2nd house of the other person (of these the connection 8-2 seems to be the most profound, deep and soulconsuming). I also found that connections of 7th and 8th house to the 4th house, oftentimes give a feeling of belonging, though it is usually not romantic on its own.
I am looking through our charts now to see which of the aspects you mentioned are present. But can you clarify what you mean by this point? Are you talking about connections/aspects between the rulers of these houses in the charts? IP: Logged |
waitingforyou Knowflake Posts: 159 From: Registered: Mar 2012
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posted January 10, 2014 10:23 AM
And about, Lilith and priapus, should it be mutual aspects only between them in the two charts, or, aspects to the other person's planets?IP: Logged |
waitingforyou Knowflake Posts: 159 From: Registered: Mar 2012
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posted January 12, 2014 11:30 AM
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Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 10307 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted January 14, 2014 12:21 PM
quote: Originally posted by waitingforyou: I am looking through our charts now to see which of the aspects you mentioned are present. But can you clarify what you mean by this point? Are you talking about connections/aspects between the rulers of these houses in the charts?
planets, important for the relating profile (based on houses) are: Ruler of 5th,7th and 8th house planets IN 5th, 7th and 8th house.
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Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 10307 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted January 14, 2014 12:21 PM
quote: Originally posted by waitingforyou: And about, Lilith and priapus, should it be mutual aspects only between them in the two charts, or, aspects to the other person's planets?
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waitingforyou Knowflake Posts: 159 From: Registered: Mar 2012
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posted January 15, 2014 05:52 AM
Okay,So first gonna mention the 'other aspects'.Please do see . I have not mentioned normal planetary aspects with each other. I was not exactly sure what all to include but here are some:
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waitingforyou Knowflake Posts: 159 From: Registered: Mar 2012
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posted January 15, 2014 06:29 AM
Now coming to the other part.Mirroring : IP: Logged |
waitingforyou Knowflake Posts: 159 From: Registered: Mar 2012
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posted January 15, 2014 07:53 AM
Complementary aspects:IP: Logged |
waitingforyou Knowflake Posts: 159 From: Registered: Mar 2012
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posted January 15, 2014 11:08 AM
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waitingforyou Knowflake Posts: 159 From: Registered: Mar 2012
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posted January 15, 2014 12:21 PM
Also I didn't know about these asteroids which you mentioned....Ariadne,Bacchus,Dionysos....the asteroids I had included was based on what iQ had said I think....Anyways we have My Ariadne conjunct his Dionysos 2deg My Ariadne trine his Bacchus 3deg and, His Adonis trine my Innanen Exact. IP: Logged |
waitingforyou Knowflake Posts: 159 From: Registered: Mar 2012
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posted January 16, 2014 11:24 AM
omg just checked...we also have vertumnus-pomona contact... (I looked through an old post of yours) I think vertumnus should be taken as Vertex right? So my Vertex opposite his Pomona 1.5deg
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Lioness Knowflake Posts: 6565 From: Registered: Mar 2010
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posted January 16, 2014 11:55 PM
Everyone has their own personal belief about soulmates/twin flames.. In reality it can't be proven either way. Each person has to just decided what works best for them. As for me, I'm not sold on the TF idea, or at least that it's so rare, 99% of people are involved in a karmic/soulmate relationships... These are our hardest relationships, the one that will make you pull your hair out, so scream for mercy.. SM relationships are learning experiences, that have a specific purpose... Learn a lesson, clear karma... Etc etc.. Majority of the time, since we are humans and we make mistakes, we create more karma with said person.. I also believe each of us has many SM, some romantic, some platonic, some relatives, co workers.. Etc etc.. I've recently ended my worst karmic/SM relationship.. It feels like TF, and destiny is apart of it.. But it almost killed my entire being.. The torture of the whole thing, was like ripping my head and heart out, stomping on them, then putting my heart in my head, and my brains in my chest, with the nerves running crossed, and mixed, tangled, and lord knows what else. leaving me feeling like wtf is wtong with me... Pure torture.. But either way that's just my opinion, others my or may not agree... Which is fine... Everyone should go with what they believe.. If your with the person, than just go with it.. Let nature take its natural course... If your not with him, maybe it's karmic, maybe it's something else.. Idk... But again maybe at a later time.. My only suggestion is if you feel like its a sm/TF. Then go with it. IP: Logged |
waitingforyou Knowflake Posts: 159 From: Registered: Mar 2012
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posted January 17, 2014 04:46 AM
Yes, I understand.... Thanks for responding!IP: Logged |