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Brobian
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posted March 16, 2014 12:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brobian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have always felt like I'm incomplete, not entirely whole. I firmly believe that this is because I have been single for 10 years now. I had been married, once upon a time, but it didn't work out very well.

Since my divorce and the turmoil it caused me, I have remained single. I absolutely refuse to go through that scenario again, I just won't. I believe that there is a woman out there, one that my heart will lock in perfect connection with hers. Though the road might have perils, obstacles, and strifes, the union will last forever.

I often feel like I was born in the wrong era, like I should have been born 800 years ago, back when love was true, the same exact love that fills my heart. I should have lived back when, if you felt a connection with a lady, you gave her your heart, and no matter what perils lay in wait, no matter what turmoil's are encountered, no matter how many dragon's need be slayed, that love remained strong. It's about finding someone whom you are comfortable with and telling them; To you, I give my heart, my love, my loyalty, my romance, my attention, my pride, my passion, my compassion, my trust, and my honor and to actually have them give it all back in return, unconditionally.

It's about a type of love, a love that, like the dodo bird, is just as extinct and had been for a very long time.

Bellow is a paragraph from my natal chart:

Your humor and charm usually draws the opposite sex to you. Even though you need to be exceptionally careful in choosing a partner, you have an extremely romantic character. Finding someone would be easy. Finding the right one would probably not. You generally know what is best for you so it should be quite easy to use your intuition. Listen to your sixth sense and keep your independence.

This, simple, paragraph defines me in a whole. If I can't find my forever, then I'd assume just say never.

Does anyone else feel like this?

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Ellynlvx
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posted March 16, 2014 03:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellynlvx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Brobian, I feel things too.

I know, it's really hard. I don't go out much either, I feel things too deeply and it is not always easy to deal with the feelings of others, especially when they are like dark clouds.

Love gone wrong can tear us asunder, when we have become one with another, it can be a double-edged sword. I too am very serious-minded and don't wish for anything transitory, I would rather be alone. Alone hurts a whole lot less.

I feel for you.

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Brobian
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posted March 16, 2014 03:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brobian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can say that I never truly even loved her, she never gave me a chance too. The split up isn't what hurt, no not at all. It was the events that happened leading up to the divorce.

I had wonderful parents, and still do. Both of my parents are actually pisceans. I was extremely sensitive and emotional as a child and my parents knew that. Which is why they sheltered me, showered my with love, loyalty, and compassion. They were very good and loving parents. However, because of their continuous love and nurturing, I was completely and utterly underprepared for the real world. I walked into my adult life thinking everything was butterflies and smiles. I never had a clue to just how cruel this world was.

Things had started to get rocky after my son was born, he's my youngest. She had lost a good amount of weight and started to go out. By the time my son was 3 months old, I was raising him entirely alone. She would disappear for days at a time.
She had started her journey, her path that would lead to the failure of the marriage and would change three innocent children for the rest of their lives.
After loosing weight, she gained confidence and a lust. She craved the attention of men, not just one man, but of all men. As I am working a swing shift and raising my three kids alone, she was out running with about any guy that would have her. Me, ever the fool, actually put up with this for nearly two years before I left.
My children are my life, I would sacrifice everything I have, everything I am for them. I would give my very life so that they could live on. I stayed because I hated the thought of my kids being raised in a broken home, I hated that I failed them, I failed them terribly. I begged that woman to stop, I plead with her, we had kids to raise, our kids need us, you need to stop this. I was laughed at and spat on. She didn't care about me, which I could live with. However, she didn't care about her own children and that was crushing.

Leaving her didn't hurt me but leaving with the thought that I failed my children most certainly did.

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Brobian
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posted March 16, 2014 03:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brobian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Think back on all this. I've never even allowed myself the chance to work my emotions from this out. I shoved them all in a jar and then buried it deep inside my heart. I could t handle them at the time, they were to overwhelming.

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Ellynlvx
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posted March 16, 2014 12:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellynlvx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, I'm here for you.

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Heartsong11
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posted March 16, 2014 12:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heartsong11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When you get to a certain level of maturity it's tough to meet someone.

We know more about what we want and find it harder to settle for less. Especially if we've experienced something so heartbreaking. It would have to be really worth the risk right?

Like you, I want that earth shattering romance. I had it once and I'll never stop missing it. Now I'm in a stagnant relationship, full of problems minus the romance. But I don't want to leave because I don't think I will ever meet or want to meet anyone else again.

I've always been a hopeless romantic. I used to have dreams about being in love from as young as 8 or 9. And I really experienced that emotion in the dreams. So I get where you are coming from.

Keep the faith that you will get what you wish for. I know it's hard at times but someone that has so much love to give will get to share it with the right person one day.


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Ellynlvx
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posted March 16, 2014 04:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellynlvx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well Said.

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Brobian
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posted March 16, 2014 07:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brobian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Heartsong11:
When you get to a certain level of maturity it's tough to meet someone.

We know more about what we want and find it harder to settle for less. Especially if we've experienced something so heartbreaking. It would have to be really worth the risk right?

Like you, I want that earth shattering romance. I had it once and I'll never stop missing it. Now I'm in a stagnant relationship, full of problems minus the romance. But I don't want to leave because I don't think I will ever meet or want to meet anyone else again.

I've always been a hopeless romantic. I used to have dreams about being in love from as young as 8 or 9. And I really experienced that emotion in the dreams. So I get where you are coming from.

Keep the faith that you will get what you wish for. I know it's hard at times but someone that has so much love to give will get to share it with the right person one day.


I have never been loved, I mean I've never completely felt that someone loved me.

I wonder what that's like.

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Heartsong11
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posted March 16, 2014 07:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heartsong11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Brobian:
I have never been loved, I mean I've never completely felt that someone loved me.

I wonder what that's like.



I thought I had it once or twice but it's been a while.

I think it's hard for a lot of people to believe somebody can completely love them. I find it hard to believe. But that's all to do with how we see ourselves. How can anyone believe that someone completely loves them if they don't even love themselves?

Can't happen! You need to be confident and love yourself first.

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Heartsong11
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posted March 16, 2014 07:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heartsong11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Brobian:
I have never been loved, I mean I've never completely felt that someone loved me.

I wonder what that's like.



I thought I had it once or twice but it's been a while.

I think it's hard for a lot of people to believe somebody can completely love them. I find it hard to believe. But that's all to do with how we see ourselves. How can anyone believe that someone completely loves them if they don't even love themselves?

Can't happen! You need to be confident and love yourself first.

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Mianaiz
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posted March 16, 2014 11:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mianaiz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well said

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Dancing Maenad
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posted March 17, 2014 08:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, at this point in my life, I am losing hope that I can have that true love that I always dreamed of. I have my DC ruler in Sag (highly idealistic) conj Neptune (ditto, but more prone to disappointments). I don't want to be alone though. I think I would be ok without a partner, if I had kids. But I always wanted a family and it always slips through my fingers. I believe I am a good woman and very giving in a relationship. But I don't have such a luck. I've just terminated my 2nd engagement and it feels like my insides have been ripped out. I guess what hurts most is that my dream of finally having a family was crushed. Again. I loved him, but I loved my dream most. See, I had a painful and abusive childhood and I come from a dysfunctional family. All I wanted was to finally find someone I could walk the path with. Share the joys and the sorrows. A true comrade in arms. It feels like it will never happen for me. Time after time, I get up and I try again, only to fail. Again. Weeks pass me by, then months, then years. And I am starting to feel hollow.

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Heartsong11
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posted March 17, 2014 09:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heartsong11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dancing Maenad:
Well, at this point in my life, I am losing hope that I can have that true love that I always dreamed of. I have my DC ruler in Sag (highly idealistic) conj Neptune (ditto, but more prone to disappointments). I don't want to be alone though. I think I would be ok without a partner, if I had kids. But I always wanted a family and it always slips through my fingers. I believe I am a good woman and very giving in a relationship. But I don't have such a luck. I've just terminated my 2nd engagement and it feels like my insides have been ripped out. I guess what hurts most is that my dream of finally having a family was crushed. Again. I loved him, but I loved my dream most. See, I had a painful and abusive childhood and I come from a dysfunctional family. All I wanted was to finally find someone I could walk the path with. Share the joys and the sorrows. A true comrade in arms. It feels like it will never happen for me. Time after time, I get up and I try again, only to fail. Again. Weeks pass me by, then months, then years. And I am starting to feel hollow.


I'm in a very similar situation to you DM. We broke off our engagement and it kind of squashes my dream of a family. And like you coming from a dysfunctional family it means a lot to me to have healthy one of my own one day.
I think there are many people out there feeling the way we do now a days.

Everything used to be less complicated because people settled for less. In other words, I think people made do with whatever relationships they had, got married, had kids and grew old together...but I do believe many of those didn't really feel that love we really really want. I'm sure there were many happy couples that had that fairy tale experience but as a whole I think people have evolved.
We are more emotionally tuned into our needs and wants. So we expect more for ourselves and that can maybe lead to disappointment.

But honestly at the end of the day, I would rather be holding out for that love and family than settling for a loveless relationship. It goes against every fiber in my being.


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Brobian
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posted March 17, 2014 04:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brobian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've only been in one relationship my entire life. Honestly, I was born to spend my life with a single person and would have spent my life in that marriage, unfortunately she didn't see it that same way.

I have children but they are nearing adulthood and don't really need daddy much anymore. I don't need true love, I just need a true understanding. Just someone who will be willing to walk beside me for forever.

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Brobian
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posted March 17, 2014 04:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brobian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is all me!!

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Heartsong11
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posted March 17, 2014 05:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heartsong11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Brobian:
I've only been in one relationship my entire life. Honestly, I was born to spend my life with a single person and would have spent my life in that marriage, unfortunately she didn't see it that same way.

I have children but they are nearing adulthood and don't really need daddy much anymore. I don't need true love, I just need a true understanding. Just someone who will be willing to walk beside me for forever.


If you're finding it hard to meet someone you could join a dating site?

I know girls in their early 20's who are finding it hard to meet guys.
One of them met a guy on a dating site and they're together now and happy.

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Brobian
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posted March 17, 2014 05:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brobian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Heartsong11:
If you're finding it hard to meet someone you could join a dating site?

I know girls in their early 20's who are finding it hard to meet guys.
One of them met a guy on a dating site and they're together now and happy.


Oh I have no problems meeting girls, I just have problems with actually giving them a chance lol

I run away scared

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LucieLemonade
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posted March 17, 2014 07:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LucieLemonade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You have to give love to get love. That means accepting people that are flawed and being willing to be accept you might get hurt.

If your heart isn't open you can't receive love.

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Brobian
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posted March 17, 2014 08:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brobian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LucieLemonade:
You have to give love to get love. That means accepting people that are flawed and being willing to be accept you might get hurt.

If your heart isn't open you can't receive love.


I see this and that's why I'm here. I am soul searching.

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