posted September 30, 2015 02:27 PM            

I've always known behind an 'edited' post was a lot of information that could have proved extremely useful to me -- and scores of others.

It wasn't easy, but I've become very vocal in recent months, about my findings, my own experiences, and my 'researching aloud', as it were. About the only thing I'll delete is photos -- for the obvious reason -- if I happen to share them.

About the hardest thing I've had to do, in a lot of respects, was sit down with my boyfriend, and tell him everything; all that I'd been terrified to say -- all that I didn't even think was true -- could possibly be true.

But when he slapped his forehead, and said, 'I'm your imaginary friend come to life!' all I could really do was hem and haw, say, ' ... is that even possible?' and 'who can really say, right?' but eventually, ' ... I think so?'

posted September 30, 2015 03:08 PM            

I am so glad I caught your discussion before you both deleted it. Your words echo my thoughts and understanding of the subject almost exactly. Thank you so much for sharing your stories as well as your unique viewpoints

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I have trouble with some outgrowths of the popular TF cultus - am not a big fan of many New Age things in general, especially not if they seem to be watered down or alternatively, over-hyped versions of old esoteric concepts, and mostly because of potential psychological damage they can do to people...

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The commercilisation and sales around it "finding your TF, signs and symptoms of a TF, how to be with your TF"... sorry, but I find it ridiculous.

If you're a person who has co-incarnated with a TF - you will just know ... but it won't be what you think. It never is.

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My heart understood but my mind really struggled... It's not about the big love and the amazing sex and some fantasy feeling. It's serious business that breaks you so wide open you are not even sure you will make it. No one goes looking for that. How could they even know what to look for? You can't know it - you experience it. If it's meant for you, then it finds YOU ...

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I will edit out these quotes if you wish. However, I wanted to be sure to catch them before they were gone because I think they offer some substantial food-for-thought and present interesting perspectives concerning the issues around focusing so much on categorizing and labeling our interactions based on these re-branded esoteric teachings. Essentially what this does more often than not is give us fuel to further our agendas at the ego level rather than forcing us surrender to the unknown and allow us to experience our own deep, internal truths in the here-and-now.

I've noticed that those seeking out the labels are really looking to validate themselves in some way. I absolutely do not mean this in a judgmental or derisive way - With the understanding that it is in our nature to try to rationalize, that this is something we ALL do, and that it is an integral part of the cycle of spiritual growth, I am only suggesting that the more someone focuses on trying to prove or disprove (to themselves or to others) something so ephemeral and unique, deeply personal, and complicated they are missing the lesson all together.

I have my own personal thoughts and experiences with the TF phenomenon but if I get right down to it, I've realized that my mind will never be able to wholly define and explain my experiences and what I feel deep within myself nor will any script put together by someone else - and it doesn't need to. The point of any interaction, be it the dreaded "karmic" connection or the coveted "TF" experience, is that we focus on what is being triggered within ourselves and use these experiences to seek out the answers within. I feel them, as I'm sure all of you do too. I cannot verbalize them, but that doesn't mean that they still can't guide me.

posted September 30, 2015 03:22 PM            

I've just been so aggressively attacked for relating my experiences in the past (not here at LL) that I'm really wary. In fact, this thread/forum is the first time in years I've dared say even this much.

If I had kept my text, I would put it back up - or send it to you privately - but I deleted it!

Thanks also for some of the positive comments or just the "me toos". If sharing helps us - then I'm really glad about that.

"coveted TF experience". We laugh about this. Who would covet this? I mean - where you end up is truly great - but the years you spend "getting humble" are so difficult - you don't know if it's worth it. And I know plenty of people (the majority in fact) who go through all of that and do not end up in physical contact at all with the other person.
It can be quite cruel. to go through all that and have to really embrace that it was for your soul growth and that you may never get to have the sweetness of a union.

Lots of people I know never re-partner. They just can't. But they go on to have some phenomenal gifts and service-oriented careers in spirituality.

posted September 30, 2015 03:27 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceres_Moon:
If I had kept my text, I would put it back up - or send it to you privately - but I deleted it!

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posted September 30, 2015 03:33 PM            

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Originally posted by FmVenusWLove:
Yea - so sorry Aubyanne! This thread seems to have gone a bit off topic

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posted September 30, 2015 04:09 PM            

We know something's crazy. Something ... exceptional. Or, as a friend of ours says, 'we're talking NeverEnding Story, or Labyrinth-level reality-bending sh*t.' Fair enough. It does seem that the thrice-great niece of Charles Dodgson (Lewis Carroll) did long to go through the looking-glass; and what better guide than a Hatter able to traverse both realms?

As I'd said in my most recent thread, either my brain concocted the term 'transdimensional' because it felt like it, or someone truly did first tell it to me, when describing 'themselves'.

Though he 'appeared' many times, the one which I remember most vividly was our 'introduction', when I was fourteen. My boyfriend and I were having a discussion about the logistics of dimensional travel mid-year; what theoretically happens in the primary eigenstate when the soul is shifting dimensions. He has several instances of missing time, though most were in the mid '90s.

One, specifically, in '94, when he was assisting with some late night accounting, and he lost over an hour in what he calls a literal blink. He'd been working at the computer, and was suddenly hit by a wave of such exhaustion, he grew lightheaded. The way he described the experience, it felt like sudden and inexplicable sedation; he went from being present to the extreme need to sleep -- as if he couldn't keep his eyes open. Then, as he blinked and reopened his eyes, the time had gone from 1:17 to 2:47; he recalls it was 90 minutes upon his later review; he remembers the 1:17 clearly, and that 90 minutes had passed when the blink completed. He researched multiple potential causes, seeking an explanation, but none were ever satisfactory. He even wondered if he could have imagined that he only blinked, and had instead slept. But, as he reopened his eyes, not only had he clearly not been sleeping for 90 minutes (or dreaming for any of that time -- he'd not even been 'asleep' long enough to enter REM) he wasn't even tired, nor groggy. He'd remembered having just felt suddenly tired, and was blinking at the clock, but the entire feeling had passed.

posted September 30, 2015 05:56 PM            

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Originally posted by Vajra:
Hi, FmVenusWLove,
glad you got something out of it! Thanks for chiming in here, and as it seems, Aubyanne doesn't mind seeing all these various perspectives discussed in her thread, so it's all good.

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Not a bit! I prefer it. This is really how I best learn; by evaluating many perspectives, and gaining understanding of them. I guess it's a Libran thing. Heh.

posted September 30, 2015 06:06 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceres_Moon:
Best place to be! <3

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posted September 30, 2015 10:16 PM            

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"coveted TF experience". We laugh about this. Who would covet this?

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posted October 01, 2015 04:59 AM            

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Originally posted by FmVenusWLove:
I guess I should explain - it irks me when I see people dismiss karmic connections as something to either run from or feel bad about - as though discovering that you "just share karma" with someone is the ultimate universal let-down. And of course on the flip side it also irks me when people place highly unrealistic romantic expectations on the TF union for reasons you and Vajra have already discussed. I find both ridiculous and that comment was my way of indulging my distaste for those popular sentiments, lol. There was quite a bit of intended sarcasm in that statement.

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posted October 01, 2015 05:11 AM            

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Originally posted by FmVenusWLove:
I guess I should explain - it irks me when I see people dismiss karmic connections as something to either run from or feel bad about - as though discovering that you "just share karma" with someone is the ultimate universal let-down. And of course on the flip side it also irks me when people place highly unrealistic romantic expectations on the TF union for reasons you and Vajra have already discussed. I find both ridiculous and that comment was my way of indulging my distaste for those popular sentiments, lol. There was quite a bit of intended sarcasm in that statement.

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haha - yeah, I know, I just couldn't resist chiming in on that.
I can honestly say that I wouldn't trade my experience for something else - but that looking at it objectively, a nice, smooth soul mate for sure looks like the nicer slice of the pie. Seriously. I know soul mate couples who go through some bumps in the beginning for sure - but it quickly evens out and then they basically have the warm fantasy life of children, homestead, the cottage on the hill scenario - and they look pretty darned happy to me!

When I realised that the TF things is no that... I was like "damn! why not??!" haha. I want that!

I will say though - that as the years go by, we have mellowed out a lot more into a soul mate kind of vibe. You can't live in that TF energy 24/7 and not kill each other - no matter how "evolved" (pfff) you are.
But - the work comes first. If I just gave up the spiritual service work - I'm pretty sure our entire gig would just implode - so that is always in the background for me.
That we are together is a huge gift, and it can be used for wonderful things. It's to be shared.
to me it would be like winning the lotto and keeping all that money for yourself and just buying material things. Instead of setting up foundations to help other people or funding really cool projects etc.

Tonight we have a dinner meeting to help raise money for a non-profit in Africa. We were asked to help. We have barely got any money in our own bank account - have been living that way for years - but of COURSE we are going to do whatever we can with the TF energy to try and help this charity get what they need to keep doing the amazing work they are doing. We are having dinner with the president of a charitable giving foundation to try and broker a deal between their foundation and the charity in Africa - and you can bet we are going to just bathe that guy in heart energy and let it work it's magic!

my friend was like, "what? We need to be having a charity for YOU guys! So you can get furniture and clothes and all that stuff! Not the other way around!" - but I just laugh. It's the way this whole thing rolls.

Now...if someone handed me a big fat check and said, "here - please go get things you need" - i would not say no! I'm not like a poverty-addict or something! I would love to go on a shopping spree and get lots of lovely things for our house and buy lots of cool gifts for our friends and host a big party to enjoy it all together. Who wouldn't? My fantasy is to have a chocolate fountain in our back yard and an endless line of strawberries - Lol.

posted October 02, 2015 02:03 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceres_Moon:
haha - yeah, I know, I just couldn't resist chiming in on that.

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posted October 10, 2015 02:26 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
I'm loving the vibe in this Forum lately.

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