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Topic: Not even a Sun-Venus dw couldn't save them from themselves: Romy & Alain
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Dancing Maenad Moderator Posts: 3174 From: The Harvest Registered: Mar 2014
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posted September 29, 2015 12:34 PM
Wrong title - "could save them". Sorry about that. http://www.tootlafrance.ie/culture/alain-delon-plays-homage-to-romy-schneider
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Dancing Maenad Moderator Posts: 3174 From: The Harvest Registered: Mar 2014
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posted September 29, 2015 12:43 PM
I have been thinking of this couple lately. There is no doubt they loved each other deeply. But that didn't guarantee a happy end, nor the absence of foul play and suffering. Yet somehow they stayed friends beyond it all. I wonder what they lacked that could have kept them together.. they seemed like they had it all. I have always wanted an epic love story, however the ones that you could say come closest to that definition were pretty tragic and dramatic and ended in flames with my heart burnt black in the middle. Yet the more unlikely the union was, the more I wanted to fight for it. Now I am in a less flashy, but more affectionate relationship, not without its problems but I wouldn't call it epic. However, I am happy in it. Maybe it was my conditioning to only regard these meteoric love stories as special and authentic while disregarding the more silent, but dependable ones? Must love be grandiose for me to fully appreciate it? What do you think? Where do you stand in this? What kind of love story do you prefer? What is your opinion on the Schneider-Delon couple?
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Dancing Maenad Moderator Posts: 3174 From: The Harvest Registered: Mar 2014
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posted September 29, 2015 12:52 PM
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Aubyanne Moderator Posts: 6237 From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse Registered: Sep 2014
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posted September 29, 2015 07:58 PM
Oh, honey, don't ask me. I'm still trying to get a handle on the whole imaginary-friend-is-real thing. Epic? More like epically complicated! IP: Logged |
Dancing Maenad Moderator Posts: 3174 From: The Harvest Registered: Mar 2014
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posted September 30, 2015 01:12 PM
Heh, in retrospect I realize I somehow managed to make it about me, again, when I really thought about making it about these two people. I guess I was trying to explain why I thought so much about them lately, but I should have left it in my mind instead. That being said, I would call this union "epic", for good or bad.. They were the love of the other's life, for sure. My regret is, as always, that they couldn't overcome their personal shortcomings and fight for their connection. It always saddens me, it feels like wasted potential. IP: Logged |
Aubyanne Moderator Posts: 6237 From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse Registered: Sep 2014
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posted September 30, 2015 01:38 PM
quote: Originally posted by Dancing Maenad: Heh, in retrospect I realize I somehow managed to make it about me, again, when I really thought about making it about these two people. I guess I was trying to explain why I thought so much about them lately, but I should have left it in my mind instead. That being said, I would call this union "epic", for good or bad.. They were the love of the other's life, for sure. My regret is, as always, that they couldn't overcome their personal shortcomings and fight for their connection. It always saddens me, it feels like wasted potential.
It sadly happens all of the time. Especially out here in Hollyweird. The past is littered with 'epically' volatile love gone spectacularly wrong. It gets our heart pounding, and our pulse racing; our blood pumping. Sensationalism is designed to do just that. Over time, even as much as we might assert to the contrary, it deeply affects us; we long for that kind of drah-mahh; to be centre-stage in our own crazy love story that makes others envious and dissatisfied with their own. Why? Ego, ego, ego. We're both built for monogamy, and we aren't; there are enough features in both columns as to be a draw, making the argument rather moot. As a result, there's a directly proportionate relationship between how desirable we find our mate -- and how desirable others find them. We love too ogle celebrity relationships because of how they've typically got equal billing; one is not 'obviously' better than the other. As, let's face it, we're kind of dicks; we'll secretly judge, and compare, every couple we see against itself. 'Why is she with him? Why is he with her?' You know how it goes. Celebrities take that intermediate step out of the way, and we're free to just invest in their shenanigans, or undying love as an unconscious model for ourselves. As much as we may not want to admit it, we're all secretly (or not so secretly) looking for that relationship which closely resembles whatever schema's been created in our heads, due to our earliest fascination with a celebrity couple. The whole thing gets pretty wonk, though, when you're actually around celebrity couples. That barrier between you, which sets them atop a pedestal, seems silly and unnecessary then. IP: Logged |
GeminiKarat Moderator Posts: 1839 From: Austria Registered: Jun 2014
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posted September 30, 2015 03:34 PM
quote: Originally posted by Dancing Maenad: Must love be grandiose for me to fully appreciate it?
I have no idea, because my personal question is: "Does a union/relationship always have to include a competition or calculation?" I love Romy Schneider and her life story. With the stories I heared about her, I guess she was a seeker for love and never realised that she already was a lovely person. Mercury is retrograde and I wish you all the support of the T-square - that is in sky - to make your personal happy love story happen. There is always a wish in the beginning of every story .
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LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 16947 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted October 02, 2015 12:25 PM
Their synastry is not very exciting, tbh, and they aren't necessarily a match, you have 3 conjunctions, and 2 of them are basically Sun/Venus, a contact usually based on appearances, IME, and the very nice Jupiter on Eros completing the MR, and there is a strong vibe of a dreamy quality of the relationship in both charts, but it looks more like the synastry of a beautiful love affair, the kind of charts that can't sustain the every day life in the relationship (hence rather solitary Saturns). If anyone broke up first, despite what the public thinks or says, it must have been Romy, possibly through erratic behavior. My opinion on them is that they weren't a match. Romy Schneider had a frail psyche and she was more or less a "spoiled princess" type and I am not saying it with a mean heart. Although life has been very tough on her with the hideous death of her son. Alain Delon, despite his delicate pretty boy appearance, has always been an ambitious fellow and rather "anal" temperament, so to speak, not the kind of woman he would need (someone supporting his ambitions, a tough, grounded woman). Of course, he must have been swarmed by women all the time during that time.His Moon is perfect for her chart, as sign, but not quite there and so is her Sun/Moon for his Moon/Mars, although Venus would have been better, I guess... and again, almost there, a bit too far ------------------ I seem to have loved you in numberless forms... AstroMandala New Profiles IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 16947 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted October 02, 2015 12:32 PM
Sun/Venus is not a deep contact, IME, it's more or less a "vanity, looks" contact (the kind of contact when you like to see the person only in a better light, only when they're in their "success" phase...which was the problem here too, I am sure. I'm sure Alain Delon didn't like to see Romy drunk or drinking or anything other than her "polished" image or that he wasn't willing to cater for her psychological problems and needs...this is how this contact works. And this is how I think Alain Delon is; liking women going up, not someone to cater for, if you know what I mean.but of course, we don't know what really happened; just speculating on these poor people lives, we feel entitled to, because they are public figures EDIT: I think it's a very suggestive couple for Sun/Venus...they look like a perfect match in their looks, and that is why the public loves them as a couple, but most likely weren't the same good match as personalities. IP: Logged |
Aubyanne Moderator Posts: 6237 From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse Registered: Sep 2014
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posted October 03, 2015 01:24 AM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: Sun/Venus is not a deep contact, IME, it's more or less a "vanity, looks" contact (the kind of contact when you like to see the person only in a better light, only when they're in their "success" phase...which was the problem here too, I am sure. I'm sure Alain Delon didn't like to see Romy drunk or drinking or anything other than her "polished" image or that he wasn't willing to cater for her psychological problems and needs...this is how this contact works. And this is how I think Alain Delon is; liking women going up, not someone to cater for, if you know what I mean.but of course, we don't know what really happened; just speculating on these poor people lives, we feel entitled to, because they are public figures EDIT: I think it's a very suggestive couple for Sun/Venus...they look like a perfect match in their looks, and that is why the public loves them as a couple, but most likely weren't the same good match as personalities.
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