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Leolady82
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posted December 07, 2015 09:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Leolady82     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi everyone!

I posted a few years ago about the start of my relationship with my Scorpio man, and lo and behold, we're still together, living together, and happy! Not engaged, no children, but I'm open to both and he claims he is, so we'll see.

I am not going to dig up my old threads, and this is more of an update, but I've seen posts online, not only on this site, but others, where ladies seem to ask "what's up with this Scorpio?" I wanted to show the inner workings of a squared-relationship, Leo Woman / Scorpio Man, and how we're making it work. Perhaps it can also shed some light on these mysterious Scorpio men. Everyone is different, and most likely my story will NOT shed some light ;-) Mayybe it'll be entertaining, I don't know. A few disclaimers: I feel like my love is more transparent than your usual Scorp, because he has a Moon in Sagittarius, and an Aquarius rising. I had originally thought he had these signs in Scorpio, but his mother confirmed a later time of birth. Also, we first met in person and interacted in real life; I noticed a lot of people with questions about Scorpio men online seem to be talking about strictly "online relationships." There may be a difference in how a person acts with people online versus IRL. I think there are studies being done on that subject. And lastly, on our composite chart we have the Sun, Mercury, Venus, AND Saturn in the 8th house. This is a powerful house and just having a composite Sun in the 8th lends some feelings of fatedness. So perhaps these factors can explain why my Scorpio man has never pulled the famous "disappearing act" on me, and why he's been so steadfast in staying with me, even when I've run away. I see it so often everywhere else and have wondered why he doesn't treat me in some ways that descriptions claim Scorpio men are wont to do. He's still difficult sometimes! (So am I, of course)

Brief overview: when we met, his girlfriend at the time and my boyfriend at the time were in the room with us, and my then-boyfriend was introducing him to me as his new business partner. I was in a terrible mood and mad at my then-boyfriend; I didn't want to meet ANYBODY at that second. I was also on my way out the door and not going to hang out with them. HE claims that it was "love at first sight" for him, although I don't know why because I was angry and upset and barely hiding it. I hardly looked at him at the time, but when I did look at him I noticed an insanely handsome green-eyed fellow giving me an oddly sultry look. I just shook his hand and said hello and dismissed it, and forgot. 8 months later we met again and had a business lunch with my then-boyfriend, and I had butterflies in my stomach and could barely contain my infatuation. He was and still is the HOTTEST man alive to me. 11 months later we began an affair, 12 months later I moved in with him and started an intense and totally immersed 2-year relationship with high highs, and awful lows. Our relationship was extremely rocky from about 6 months in to October of this year. There was a turn-around where I had to really change my relationship behavior to make things run smoothly, but I'll explain later.

I might add that I have a Moon in Aquarius and a Sag rising. I think this helps us relate and get along as friends, seeming that he has a Sag Moon and Aqua rising. It also very much helps with his jealousy and possessiveness. Don't get me wrong, I'm jealous and possessive too, but we are ONLY jealous and possessive with potential threats, such as other men and other women. Neither of us are jealous of friends and family, thank goodness (well, he is suspicious of any male friends but when I say we're strictly platonic, he leaves it alone) We have spent a lot of time with his East-Coast parents and sister and her family, and I admire his close relationships and get along fabulously with his relatives. He has a wonderful relationship with his Cancer mother, and she LOVES me. I distance myself from my own mother because she's an alcoholic, but she's happy for us and proud of our success.

Anyway, we spend most of our time together. We live on a 40 acre farm that he's leasing to own, and we've been completely renovating the house on the property. We lived in a kitchen-and-bathroomless cabin for 8 months while we went through a number of drug-addicted contractors off of Craigslist, and the situation put us through a lot of stress. When we'd fight, I'd get furious at the mean things he'd say to me, and try to leave him. Several times he tried to physically stop me (don't worry, he's never physically abused me. He doesn't believe in it no matter how angrily we've yelled at each other). I would go to my (Gemini) sister's house 3 hours away and she'd welcome me for as long as I wanted, but he'd always plead me to come back to him. Finally in October we had an argument that was so bad, I left him for 3 weeks. In those 3 weeks he slept with some other woman for a couple days, decided he didn't like her, and managed to get me to come back to the property. He didn't tell me about the fling, but I found empty condom wrappers and confronted him. We were broken up at the time and he had no more interest or contact with the woman (she was a traveling worker on a Visa from another country), so I couldn't objectively be angry or upset, but I cried. He apologized anyway and comforted me. Despite some of the mean things he's said, some haranguing (he is 8 years older than me), AND some overly-critical dissections of me, to me, he treats me quite well: fairly and lovingly.

Typically we cuddle for a bit in bed on a daily basis (he's not the most cuddly man I've dated but it's more intense on some days). We usually have sex 5 times a week, which is barely enough for me and it has been less frequently when we weren't getting along, but it will do! He says "I love you" to me about 5 times a day, no lie and no exaggeration. He calls me "hon," "dear," "lovely lady," "sweetie," "beautiful," and "princess" on a regular basis. We usually kiss and hug throughout the day at random moments, and squeeze each others' knees/put hand on each others' necks in the car. In almost everything he does, he includes me. Yes he gets bossy and tyrannical at times. I used to stubbornly resist, get bossy myself, argue, and lash out at him, but that is why we had it so rocky for so long. After the last breakup and the incident with him and another woman, I started looking at the bigger picture of "do I really want to be with this man??" The answer was YES, and then I started looking at the daily annoyances with the perspective of the Bigger Picture. I put out my flaming defenses. I assumed a more feminine role (I know that sounds terrible in this post-feminist age, but it's NOT a bad thing). I put his needs first sometimes. It has worked rather well. Things are going smoothly. When our contractor he wants to fire (work is still being done, the property needs a lot of upgrading) p*sses him off, I know how to deal with his stormy bad moods without creating a problem between us. In the past, I'd get annoyed at his jerky attitude and be grouchy right back. That didn't work out well at all. In fact, I'll just say it: losing patience, getting defensive, escalating intensity and becoming offensive all go over like a lead balloon with Scorpio men. It has been a trial, but I've decided to just try to be agreeable and not argue with him when he's in one of his moods. Thankfully, he's often happy and peaceful, even KITTENISH (if you can believe it) on most days.

A lot of me figuring out how to act so that things can go smoothly has to do with internal work. We all know relationships do well if each person is working on him or herself, and this one is no different. I've had major baggage, which certainly affected our relationship and he could tell you himself. Likewise, about 10 years ago he was involved with a woman WHO WAS BORN ON MY BIRTHDAY, EXACT YEAR, who filed lawsuits against him and basically ran him out of the state. I have heard the situation in depth and it is a ridiculous story. At the time she was 23 and he was 31; right now I am 33 and he is 41, and I think it is very interesting that aside from me, the longest relationship he ever had was 2 years with THAT girl. He is a lifelong bachelor who likes to have girlfriends more than one night stands, and the girlfriends last, on average, 3 to 6 months. According to him, he usually does the dumping. A part of me wonders if our relationship is not partly karmatic, and linked to his relationship with the girl who shares my birthday. I definitely don't like it if it is, but the only thing I can do is love him and be good to him. I absolutely have been no angel in the course of our relationship in regards to treating him well. I actually have NOT cheated or betrayed him in any way, which is great because I like to have a clear conscience AND we started our relationship when he was single and I was still involved with that abusive Gemini man. Some people predicted that this fact would impair his trust for me, but actually it hasn't and I'll tell you why. He has good sense and intuition, and we have all those planets in the 8th house. If I had cheated, he would know. Somehow. I KNEW when he was having a fling, even before I found physical evidence. It took him a while to admit it to me. "They say" Scorpios need a few years of studying another person's habits before they can trust someone. I think this is no different, and I DO think he trusts me more now than ever.

So yes, our love is very strong. Yes indeed we struggle with our egos and tempers at times. Yes, we're sickeningly sweet to each other and often, we're two peas in a pod. He's very handsome, tall, nice body, wealthy, successful and a capable man and he expects a lot of me. I in turn do my best to be my best self, but I make sure and do it for me, because that's the only way my self improvement will work. I make sure to do things that make ME happy, and in turn, he's happy. I definitely wish everyone the same kind of love, probably wish y'all a lot less drama and passion. Passion is over-rated. Trust!!

XOXO

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posted December 07, 2015 11:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Valentine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm happy for you. It sounds like you're well suited, it should last.

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Leolady82
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posted December 09, 2015 10:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Leolady82     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Valentine!

My only issue right now is: he's so private, we have NO FRIENDS in our community. We've made none, just friendly with the neighbors but no hanging out. Granted our house was torn apart and is just being put back together...still I worry that he's overly immersed and relying on me for company. I wish he could make male friends. He has had lots of issues with other men in his history. He claims they're often jealous and competitive with him. Makes me wonder though...

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posted December 09, 2015 01:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bluejay     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Leolady!!! I remember you from when you first posted about your relationship. I am happy for you(and relieved) that you're doing well. I actually thought about bumping your old thread about a month ago to see how you were. I was honestly a bit worried about you, because you hadn't given an update for so long, and I remember your guy being pretty intense. You should be very thankful that his Moon and AC aren't in Scorpio, because that's just entirely too much Scorpio!

Actually I'm a Scorpio Sun and Aquarius AC too, and I've been lusting after a Leo Sun/Scorpio Moon man for quite some time. Unfortunately he moved, so I don't think it will ever get off the ground due to the distance. This Leo literally made me tremble in his presence, something I'd never felt before, so I'm sure the sex would be crazy amazing! I always felt like if we were ever alone we would rip each others clothes off immediately. I was curious about how the Leo/Scorpio relationship was working for you. I always read that they have the best sex ever, but it can be a tough combination with both being so stubborn and wanting to be the boss.

I was one of the people that warned you that he would have trust issues. I have a lot of Scorpio and 8th house in my chart and I can honestly say, I am incapable of fully trusting anyone. I was even with my ex for 15 years and he never cheated(at least that I know of), and I still could never trust him 100%. I believe he always was faithful, because I'm always on the lookout for anything amiss. He called me a private investigator. I'm ok as long as I can keep an eye on my love, but my mind creates scenarios that I have no control over. He was also insanely hot(but didn't know it) and only gets better with age, so everyone and their mom wanted a piece of him. I made no secret of the fact that I would cut a b*tch if she even tried, without having to cause a scene or act crazy. All it takes is one ice cold Scorpio stare. Just never give a Scorpio a good reason to be suspicious, because then you're in trouble. I think the jealousy and suspicions will always be present with a Scorpio, but it's kept in check when they feel reassured and loved.

I'm happy for you that you've made it! The remodel and the 40 acres sounds awesome too, that's my dream to do that.

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posted December 11, 2015 12:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the update!

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posted December 11, 2015 03:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Starry~*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's such a sweet story! I'm very happy for you! I am not a Leo..however! I am also in a relationship with a Scorpio Sun and Aqua Rising. He has a Leo moon. How do you think a Scorpio Sun / Aqua Rising handles relationships? My guy is quite the Scorpio, but meshed with being an Aqua with his weird quirks and all! He has his Mars and Venus in Capricorn.

I'm a Libra Sun Moon and Mars. But I have alot of Scorpio in me -- Scorpio ASC but I have a 1st House Stellium in Scorpio - Merc, Venus and Pluto.

I mean, technically speaking his Mars and Venus is in a sign that squares my Libra Sun Moon and Mars. However, I think my Scorpio-ness meshes better with that Cap in him.

How do you handle your Scorpio when he's so tense and overworked at his job? You say that you know how to handle him when he's in those unpleasant moods -- what exactly do you do when he is in that "zone" ?

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posted December 12, 2015 12:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Scorps need to get their minds off work.

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posted December 12, 2015 05:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Me a Scorpio Sun/Leo Asc with (maybe was with) a Leo man/Scorpio Asc.

We have an Asc/Sun double whammy and our Moons are conjunct in Aquarius!! Great synastry with loads of challenges!

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posted December 12, 2015 08:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I've had major baggage, which certainly affected our relationship and he could tell you himself. Likewise, about 10 years ago he was involved with a woman WHO WAS BORN ON MY BIRTHDAY, EXACT YEAR, who filed lawsuits against him and basically ran him out of the state. I have heard the situation in depth and it is a ridiculous story.

Angelina Jolie's first husband Johnny Lee Miller (a Scorpio) took for his second wife a Gemini born on Angelina's birthday, June 4th. Both women he married were born on June 4th.

In my own life a Scorpio Moon/Venus person offended me so I cut them out - forever. What I've observed is most of the new people coming in are Gemini-Sagittarius. First an assistant, then a bestie whose pSun & Moon were on my natal chart. After those moved out, another Gemini-Sagittarius appeared. At least we know who they miss the most. I, however, am not flattered. You can never come back.

This is my favorite aspect of pSynastry. Most people are linked to someone from your past. By looking at their natal & progressed placements you can tell which relationship karma they're bringing to your life.

What I think this means for him is; he's probably sorry for the way he treated that woman and wanted a chance to do things differently. With you (the woman's exact placements) he gets an opportunity to right that karma.

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posted December 14, 2015 02:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Leolady82     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Bluejay:
You should be very thankful that his Moon and AC aren't in Scorpio, because that's just entirely too much Scorpio!

Hi Bluejay!
I am very thankful, indeed, believe me! He has Mercury, Venus and Mars in Scorpio as well--that's almost too much, too!

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Originally posted by Bluejay:
Actually I'm a Scorpio Sun and Aquarius AC too, and I've been lusting after a Leo Sun/Scorpio Moon man for quite some time. Unfortunately he moved, so I don't think it will ever get off the ground due to the distance. This Leo literally made me tremble in his presence, something I'd never felt before, so I'm sure the sex would be crazy amazing! I always felt like if we were ever alone we would rip each others clothes off immediately. I was curious about how the Leo/Scorpio relationship was working for you. I always read that they have the best sex ever, but it can be a tough combination with both being so stubborn and wanting to be the boss.

I love sex with Scorpios. I had a Scorpio Sun / Sag Moon / Scorp AC / Venus Scorp / Mars Leo- boyfriend and that was...amazing too, my boyfriend is King for sure, but I've had fun in my past. Don't tell him!
I am bummed you didn't get a chance with your Leo man friend. It's too bad, maybe some day(?) With hope.
I had a fling with a Leo man when I was 26, in Hawaii, come to think of it he had a Moon in Sag, what is with me and Sag moon men?? Amyway, it was great. Playful and lighthearted passion. We were very much like two animals. RAWR!

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I was one of the people that warned you that he would have trust issues...I have a lot of Scorpio and 8th house in my chart and I can honestly say, I am incapable of fully trusting anyone....my mind creates scenarios that I have no control over....Just never give a Scorpio a good reason to be suspicious, because then you're in trouble. I think the jealousy and suspicions will always be present with a Scorpio, but it's kept in check when they feel reassured and loved.

I'm happy for you that you've made it! The remodel and the 40 acres sounds awesome too, that's my dream to do that.


You know, I understand because my mind went wild with jealousy after I learned about his fling while we were broken up. I worded it like it was no big deal, but there was major drama, believe me! Bleh. I mentally obsessed over it for a few weeks, but i don't bring it up to him or "punish" him for it, because it is what it is, I mean, I left him. He was free to do whatever. But in regards to his jealousy..yeah I have downplayed it somewhat. I actually FORGET that randomly and occasionally he will jealously say something, or accuse me of possibly being nice to a man who may have allegedly hit on me. Does that sound like it makes sense? Because it doesn't!! I don't know where he gets it from, he is pretty cool and chill most of the time. He's never grabbed my arm or chastised my behavior in public, or anything one might deem "psycho," but yes occasionally he will ask me in an accusative tone what exactly I have been doing, play by play, when I was gone for whatever length of time I was gone. Or randomly ask if a man I mentioned talking to was an ex boyfriend, or whatever. Just so random and pretty rare, because we're together nearly all the time. Sometimes when we're away from each other, he's normal, other times he'll get separation anxiety and send sweet texts, then grill me when I see him. I'm very good natured and tell him everything without getting defensive, because I know my conscience is clear and he believes me when I tell him the truth (which is ALWAYS, because duh). So yeah, even if he doesn't trust me 100%, I'm not offended because guess what? He trusts me probably more than anyone else on the planet aside from his mom, and that's a high honor!

I've only gotten (demonstratedly) jealous with him about twice, which isn't bad in 2 years. Once when he was staring at some chick too long in my opinion after we were quite drunk, and then the time I found out about his tryst. Once was very minor, the other was pretty devastating but I got over it. Aqua Moon really helps me get over things. I can be super rational with my feelings sometimes.

Thank you for your kind words!

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posted December 14, 2015 02:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Leolady82     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Starry~*:
That's such a sweet story! I'm very happy for you! I am not a Leo..however! I am also in a relationship with a Scorpio Sun and Aqua Rising. He has a Leo moon. How do you think a Scorpio Sun / Aqua Rising handles relationships? My guy is quite the Scorpio, but meshed with being an Aqua with his weird quirks and all! He has his Mars and Venus in Capricorn.

I'm a Libra Sun Moon and Mars. But I have alot of Scorpio in me -- Scorpio ASC but I have a 1st House Stellium in Scorpio - Merc, Venus and Pluto.

I mean, technically speaking his Mars and Venus is in a sign that squares my Libra Sun Moon and Mars. However, I think my Scorpio-ness meshes better with that Cap in him.

How do you handle your Scorpio when he's so tense and overworked at his job? You say that you know how to handle him when he's in those unpleasant moods -- what exactly do you do when he is in that "zone" ?


Thanks! Well, I find the Aqua rising to be nice sometimes, other times I think it makes him cantankerous, rude, and callous. Something about the combo. Maybe the Sag Moon makes it worse. I can imagine your sweet heart to be more honey-tongued if he has a Leo moon, of course. My own boyfriend is very. very blunt and speaks his mind, and his mind isn't always full of niceties! In fact, just the other day he had fired his contractor and admitted berating and lecturing him, and to doing it on an empty stomach, sleepy, grouchy, with 2 beers in him, and after being rather "salty" about what a terrible job the guy had done. My boyfriend sat back in a reflective moment and said, "I wish I wasn't such an a**hole sometimes. Why is that? I guess that's just the way I was made. I have made grown men CRY before." I said, "you've certainly made ME cry before. But I still love you anyway." And a soft yet evil smile spread over his face as he said, "Aww, I love you too. SO much." He knows he's got his pinchers clamped on me so I can't escape!! Just kidding...not really. To answer your question, I think the Scorpio w Aqua AC WILL act very quirky in love, but it's good. I think it makes them extra loyal and trustworthy. Probably gives him a star quality. People have fallen all over themselves to flatter and cajole my boyfriend in public sometimes. I find it as funny as it is annoying, but again, it's rare, and he can be quiet and reserved. I just smile and go with the flow.

As for his Mars and Venus in Cappy...that i don't have a lot of experience with. My Scorpio lovers have both had Venus in Scorpio, which is intense! I thought Cappy Venus might make the love nature more reserved. I don't really know. I'd have to read up on it. Maybe your Scorpio has a tighter reign on his emotions than mine does. Ugh, I will NOT even recant some of the dramatic scenes I've had with mine, but yeah it's almost text book Scorpio Sun + Scorpio Venus, right down to the threat of violence. No real violence! Thank goodness. I am LUCKY to have a Venus in Cancer, I'll tell you. I'm not afraid of him, but I fear his temper sometimes just because he's slow to cool off. I felt like he was condescending to me all day one day. So I was rude to him and it started an argument that escalated to him shouting at me, well us shouting at each other, and I finally broke down in tears not because I was hurt, but because I was frustrated and yelling back doesn't work with him. When I cry, he calms down after a few minutes, then he apologizes and hugs me, sometimes takes me to bed to cuddle. He has a mean streak, but he doesn't enjoy hurting my feelings (for too long anyway). It would be a ROUGH ROAD loving him if he did!

Yes, Scorpios and stress related work! Ugh...here is what I do: when he vents, I give him my full attention. If I don't, he will get irritated. If he's quiet and thinking, I'll try to be quiet because otherwise he might ask me to be quiet because he's "trying to think." If he asks for advice, I give him my soundest advice even if I WANT to be like, "dude, it doesn't matter, stop trippin'." And if he's really upset, vents to me, and then looks at me for a reaction, I say calmly, "Well, is there any way I can help?" And if he says yes I do what he says. I do NOT give gratuitous advice, or criticize how he's handling things. This all may sound very submissive but I've been through the wringer with him, and this kind of patience just works out well to us both being happy and satisfied.

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posted December 14, 2015 02:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Leolady82     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Astro keen:
Me a Scorpio Sun/Leo Asc with (maybe was with) a Leo man/Scorpio Asc.

We have an Asc/Sun double whammy and our Moons are conjunct in Aquarius!! Great synastry with loads of challenges!



That sounds amazing!

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posted December 14, 2015 03:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Leolady82     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Nine:

This is my favorite aspect of pSynastry. Most people are linked to someone from your past. By looking at their natal & progressed placements you can tell which relationship karma they're bringing to your life.

What I think this means for him is; he's probably sorry for the way he treated that woman and wanted a chance to do things differently. With you (the woman's exact placements) he gets an opportunity to right that karma.



That's very interesting, I will have to search other areas of this site to educate myself further on the topic.

As for the previous Leo girlfriend, he admitted he wasn't sure if she was August 2nd or 4th. If she was August 2nd she may have had a Moon in Capricorn instead. Either way, there's no way she had my rising! also she was born on the East Coast, and me in west. It's still possible she had a very different rising, thus changing things up a bit. Of course, my ulterior motive is to distance myself from her, because as a Leo woman, of course I do not compare to her (even though she is a Leo herself)!! I'm obviously better, he has nothing nice to say about her. But yes, karmatically he has a chance to right things. In his mind, he still thinks she's horrible and treated him unfairly. The b*tch apparently was mad at him and smashed his guitar, and deleted his novel he was writing in anger before he came home one day. I would NEVER do such a thing! In our 2 years together I've never done anything even remotely crazy like that. My tactic to deal with being angry at him was to leave the situation to cool off. Could be my Sag rising. Maybe his ex girlfriend had a Scorpio rising? LOL

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posted December 21, 2015 12:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Leolady82     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just want to say: sometimes loving a Scorpio man is like trying to hug a cactus!!

Geez, even in the middle of sweet nothings he will act prickly and suspiciously question my motives. I like it best when he's in one of his kittenish moods. Ok, that is all.

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posted December 22, 2015 09:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Starry~*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Leolady82:
I just want to say: sometimes loving a Scorpio man is like trying to hug a cactus!!

Geez, even in the middle of sweet nothings he will act prickly and suspiciously question my motives. I like it best when he's in one of his kittenish moods. Ok, that is all.


Sounds...dead-on right! I think the Aqua rising makes a scorpio even more suspicious than usual. My sweetheart does the same thing...if I'm genuinely nice he will question WHY...sometimes I'm just like "Just ******* accept my love for you already!!!" haha

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posted December 23, 2015 09:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Scorps want to be private investigators.

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posted December 23, 2015 07:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for posting this, Leolady! It's inspiring and encouraging and I am sure many women dealing with Scorpio men appreciate your insight. Myself included, haha.

Keep rocking together for many years to come!

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posted December 24, 2015 01:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You just have to keep reassuring them and love away their suspicions.

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posted December 25, 2015 09:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's just in their natures.

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Leolady82
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posted February 06, 2016 01:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Leolady82     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you all for the kind words!

I've been silently and secretly reading some stuff online written by, I guess you can call them Men's Rights activists or Neomasculinists. At first I was incredulous, but after a while I started to use the grievances against modern American women as intel to maybe practice some further strategies in dealing with my dear sweet but sometimes mean and nasty scorpion. Why? Because even though he isn't familiar with the rhetoric or stance to my knowledge, he has a sort of similar basic belief system of these men in the movement. I'll sum it up for you: (my guesses)
Men should lead women
Women should be feminine, vulnerable, agreeable, sweet and modest
Traditional gender roles for a heterosexual man like himself work best for him, and he's not ever settling for anything outside of that paradigm
He won't stand for being "micro-managed," his own words for the concept that I and most women subconsciously participate in a power struggle-from which the women supposedly actually want to be stopped and dominated by her man
I, as the woman he chose for a partner: should be industrious, not lazy; well rounded, not indolent and spoiled; prim, proper and classy in public, not at all crass; more often quiet but warm and pleasant instead of frequently chattering, talking too loudly or making slapstick inspired jokes; accomplished and financially independent; beautiful, slim, fit and able to cook, clean and satisfy him sexually when he wants, how he wants it.

Jeez, it's a tall order, but my point in educating myself on high standards of some neomasculinists is that they seen to mirror my Scorpio's standards. 'Cept he never laid it out for me. He is, not surprisingly, what men might call an Alpha. He also has a tender and loving side that seems more "Beta" I guess because it's not consistent with Alpha "jerk" behavior. Anyway, in general I think I know what he wants out of me and why he's kept me around this long. I do definitely fulfill a lot of these desired traits, but yeah! No one's perfect and I really had to step back and observe my behavior and underlying motives. I get endless enjoyment from making him happy. He does treat me like a total princess when he's happy. There'll be mistakes made, but ultimately I'm interested in attempting to tone down my Leonine tendencies to be the BO$$. ;-)

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posted February 06, 2016 02:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Valentine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm a Scorpio, one of the best relationships I had was with a Leo, I didn't appreciate it at the time. You don't know what you've got till it's gone.

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Leolady82
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posted February 06, 2016 02:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Leolady82     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^ That's really bitter sweet, Valentine. I had another Scorpio boyfriend several years ago who broke my heart and strung me along sexually for many months after he dumped me. But the way he treated me when we hung out was still super romantic, sweet, and loving. I forgave him and think fondly of him, and I actually have seen him around. Weirdly enough my current boyfriend and I ended up moving to his small town and it had nothing to do with him. When I see my ex, though, he ignores me. He has his own girlfriend and he saw me with my boyfriend once, after that he won't talk to me but I don't mind. We always ended up having sex when we hung out. Nearly ALWAYS. Even a few years after he dumped me, right before I got with my current, we had sex in his truck. LOL. He IS a self proclaimed sex addict anyway. It's best if we ignore each other nowadays, anyway.

Point is, you may come across another, cooler Leo in your future to date. I wouldn't be surprised

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posted February 06, 2016 02:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Valentine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i'm happy for your relationship. As for me, i'm now married to a sweet Virgo, so my Leo wasn't meant to be.

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posted February 06, 2016 04:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Leolady82     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Congratulations!

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Valentine
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posted February 06, 2016 06:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Valentine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Leolady82:
Congratulations!

Thank you.

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