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Yanmorg
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posted December 17, 2015 09:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yanmorg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My title had some errors, but what I meant by it is, we fight tooth and nail only to rekindle our love after the big explosion.

I'm just completely unhappy, but something is keeping me in this relationship. I care for him, but I'm not satisfied.

Sexually, I'm about 65% satisfied.

He can't communicate properly.

He has never had a girlfriend so he knows almost nothing about women and relationships so he's constantly doing things that either hurts ME or our relationship.

He tells little white lies which makes me question his integrity as a person.

& don't get me wrong, he's not a horrible person. His "mess-ups" are MOSTLY harmless, but that's what makes it so frustrating. I view him sort of like a helpless child who knows nothing about sex, love, relationships and I'm his parent or teacher trying to guide and direct him, but that's the thing, I'm doing so much guiding and teaching, there's hardly ever any room left for me to just enjoy our relationship.

I'm just fed up and we've only been together for a few months. I don't know if we're going to make it through the storm despite my determination and staying power.

I just want different thoughts and opinions.

More analysis.

Thank you in advance. 😊

MY NATAL


HIS NATAL

SYNASTRY

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Astro keen
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posted December 17, 2015 03:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yanmorg, you have some great synastry features - Venus conjunct Pluto indicates the strong attraction you have for each other, for example. But be careful of staying in a relationship because of the astrology.

It is clear that the relationship is very unequal - you are putting in far greater effort to keep it going and exhausting yourself in the process. What is likely to happen is that the attraction will wane as you grow more resentful. I have been through a similar situation. Our astrology was so compelling that I ignored my own feelings and intuition.

There is clearly a karmic lesson to be learnt here. Your composite shows many planets in the 12th, which indicate that previous karma needs to be resolved. Maybe your lesson is that you need to let go of something that is not working. Perhaps you tend to hold on to things for too long and it is detrimental to you. An even greater lesson is for you to realise that you deserve better. You need to honour yourself by letting go of a relationship that is not good enough for you. And your actions will be a lesson for him.

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Yanmorg
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posted December 17, 2015 05:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yanmorg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
All of what you said is very true.

Astrology isn't my determining factor. I just care for him and want to see our relationship tirn out to be successful.

Are there any indications of things getting easier? or what can you tell me about his natal in comparison to our synastry and composite?

I agree with everything you have said. I just still have hope that he will catch on eventually and start learning about relationships and how to treat a woman.

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Astro keen
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posted December 18, 2015 03:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The only way he will learn is if you stop positively reinforcing his poor behaviour. You do this by continuing your relationship. He does not believe you, because you still get back together. You are teaching him to continue as he is .

The answer is to break it off, stay firm, do not cave in and see if after a period of time, he changes. If he really cares for you, he will make efforts to change. Draw a line and keep your word. Don't make excuses for him, that he does not KNOW how to treat a woman.

Another alternative would be for both of you to meet with a relationship therapist.

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posted December 18, 2015 10:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Starry~*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm a newbie with astrology but here is what I see:

I'm also a venus/merc/pluto in Scorpio and moon in libra. I am quite a demanding person when it comes to love and relationships. I don't take it anything lightly with that stuff. I think I can relate to you a bit in that department. However, I've been in a relationship where I stayed with someone for 8 years and I was his first-serious-real-anybody. I do understand the frustration, it feels like pulling an ox up a tree. May I ask how many years are you guys apart? I think with our Scorp nature, it might be good to be in a relationship with someone who is more emotionally mature and have gone through some relationships and therefore better equipped to handle its' needs. This can also be seen in your chart: you have Saturn touching basically almost all your planets, I think a more mature partner will do you well. We are not asking for someone who knows everything and be perfect. We are just asking for someone who can work with us and at least be appropriate when it comes to dealing with our emotions/needs and the partnership.

We also share the same moon in libra. I can relate the need to be in a relationship because we don't handle alone time well. We can run into the risk of getting involved with people who might not be good for us, and once we do get involved we will do almost anything (bend over backwards) to please our partners and have them to stay.

One thing I might wanna point out is his mars in taurus is opposing pluto and squaring jupiter. Mars in taurus requires alot of patience, especially if it's receiving hard aspects to pluto and jupiter. Mars opposing pluto can point to someone being extreme in behavior and/or having some challenging experiences. I think they would need to be VERY self aware and able to control their passions a bit in order to deal with problems. I'm currently with someone who has the Mars/Pluto square: his way of dealing with his pent up energy is exercising. He is very aware that if he isn't then he will be easily frustrated and overpowering/destructive.

As for his mars square jupiter - that might be part of the reason why you feel you're always doing the guiding and teacher. I think with this aspect, the individual might take things for granted or have the "oh ok everything is fine now! moving on!" like in one ear and out the other. I know this is VERY frustrating to deal with for people like us. I hope he isn't one to ignore and forget his mistakes because he will have the tendency to repeat them if he does. Again, self awareness is key here coupled with taking the appropriate action to correct or adjust.

Your composite is quite interesting. You a very nice Sun/Merc/Venus conjunction in the 12th House. I also have some composite planets in the 12th house with my current partner, namely an unaspected uranus and a venus/saturn conjunction. 12th House can point to karma, but I don't want to jump to conclusions that it's bad. I think when it comes to the 12th house, both people need to be more self aware. Then and only then can they handle some of the 12th house aspects. Reflective/go deep into the roots of your heart/mind/being, learn about yourself: what makes you tick, why, and how can you be more accepting of your own triggers, etc.

It's alot of hard work to be in a relationship, and I admire/applaud you for having so much staying power to work it out. But also keep in mind that you are deserving of love and of someone who can provide some of your needs in a relationship as well. When needs go unmet we only build up more and more resentment: that's not the goal to any relationship. Love should set you free, not hold you down. I think you should really spend some time to think about your own needs in a relationship and assess them, what can you tolerate, what do you absolutely need to feel at peace and happy..because the moment anyone can say "I don't know if we're gonna make it through the storm" is when the relationship is already over.

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