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BleuArtemis
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From: Austin, TX, USA
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posted February 20, 2009 01:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BleuArtemis     Edit/Delete Message
Him : October 9, 1981 new york, ny I think 5:30pm time of birth
Me : April 19, 1983 brooklyn, ny, 2:15am

If anyone has the time, I don't expect much but could someone please give me their opinion on this dudes character.

Also, perhaps a synastry reading, I would like to know exactly why I'd like to kill him. Also, why he likes to put me on the back burner.

blessings,
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wal
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posted February 24, 2009 01:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for wal     Edit/Delete Message
Hi, BleuArtemis, here is my take.

First, his character. He has his Sun, Moon, Jupiter and Saturn in Air signs, all in Cardinal Libra except the Moon. He probably considers himself an intellect and with his Pluto in there as well he probably finds himself to be his most accurate critic and values his own thoughts highly. Libra likes arguments and critical thinking. His heavily-aspected Moon in Aquarius means that his need for independence and being ahead of the pack may even be greater still. The harsh aspects his Moon makes to other planets tells me that this may be a sensitive point for him and he may feel very self-critical about this emotional need.

His North Node is in Cardinal Cancer, and his other Water planets are Mercury, Uranus and his Ascendant. He probably comes across as a dreamer or aloof, and his communication style is very intense and emotional, even if he is trying to be detached and cool-headed. When he is engaging in a conversation with someone he is either there or not there, and if he is there he needs to be the one to control the moment. He is probably not above playing mind games, and may even enjoy them.

His Mars, Venus, and Neptune are all in Fire signs, meaning that these areas of his life are expressed with vibrance and activity. His Mars in Leo shows that he is a person who needs to and actively seeks the attention of others, and needs to be admired. His Venus is right on the cusp of Sagittarius and Scorpio, giving his carefree attitude about love a slightly pungent taste after coming out from the dark pit of emotions that is Scorpio.

His Earth signs have asteroids and smaller beings in them, and while they are not to be overlooked, they tend to not contribute as much to his overall elemental makeup as the main planets do.

For aspects: Looking at this guy's natal I see his Sun is right in the middle of his Saturn and Jupiter. Normally a Sun/Jupiter person can be considered optimistic and fun-loving, but with Saturn thrown in this can mean that he is actually often working against his own purposes and that denying himself or being destructive towards the objectives he wants in life may actually be a natural, instinctive reaction. With Jupiter involved this probably includes some element of overindulgence. To others this may come across as being lazy or pigheaded, even apathetic. He probably has problems "choosing" between what is good for him now and what is good for him in the future, not realizing they can be harmoniously linked.

His Pluto is strongly aspected to his more personal planets (conjunct sun/mercury, trine moon), so he is probably not very shy or aloof on the inside, it is probably quite opposite. He definitely has an affixion on finding the 'real' personalities of people, and will grow easily frustrated if he feels someone is putting up a front towards him. He will probably feel emotionally inhibited if you neglect his Pluto, since it is trine his Moon (emotions), and will definitely feel alienated on a communicative, mutual understanding-type of level (Mercury). At the same time, his personality may appear to change when he is around the general population and when he is around people he knows more intimately, and he may even seem hypocritical on the outside, but he creates a very strict moral code for himself thanks to Pluto's self-transforming and self-analytical properties, and by his rules it fits. And his rules are the only rules that matter to him at all. As an aside, Pluto conjunct Mercury can make people come across as self-righteous because they expect their style of communication and understanding to impact others as much as it does themselves.

His Moon is fairly hard hit by the rest of the planets in his natal, square Venus, Uranus and Chiron, along with a few asteroids and lesser beings, and then opposite Mars. Moon square Venus means that how he expresses his concept of love and beauty and how he expresses his own emotions work to somehow intercept each other. Although he definitely believes in love, he may have a hard time getting into the emotional groove of it. He may not understand or feel the emotions of love, instead just going through the motions. Because his Venus is in Sagittarius, also conjunct Uranus, his ideal affair may be something fun, light, and low-commitment, and when the relationship begins to grow deep and emotions come out, he may try to steer it back into the "spontaneous" zone, feeling like he is bringing a relationship closer to his ideal and not understanding that he is creating emotional distance. On the other hand, his Moon trine his Mercury (communication), Jupiter (fun) and Pluto (psyche) means that he will most likely open up to his emotions in situations where he feels like he can comfortably communicate without worrying too much about the aftermath. He may find a lot of good from seeing a therapist or just having a friend he can 'let it all out' to.

His Mars and Moon opposition means that he cannot coordinate his emotions and passions, or energy to coexist, instead he seems to ping pong between being emotionally shaken one second and like a stone wall the next. He is probably a very defensive person, even if he does not show it. He is probably quick to get angry at himself and others thanks to his Mars/Uranus square, but even if he is not he is clearly not the type who lets anger simmer below the surface, with his Mars in the fiery sign of Leo. With Venus square Mars, his expression of energy and his expression of love and beauty work to intercept each other. Simply, he may seem almost loveless when he is really "expressing his passion" if you can understand what I mean, and then at the same time when he is trying to express his love he may not see or understand how he can take that to a more passionate, physical level.

Finally, with his Neptune harmoniously aspecting his more personal planets, he definitely has goals and ideals in life, and they are probably not too lofty for him to actually succeed, if he can get over his Saturn/Jupiter/Sun habits. With his Mars trine his Neptune he definitely knows how to go get what he wants, it's just a matter of if he actually does it.

I'll be back with the synastry soon, hopefully this is the kind of information you are looking for.

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BleuArtemis
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posted February 24, 2009 02:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BleuArtemis     Edit/Delete Message
Wow! its exactly what I'm looking for. Thank you.

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wal
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posted February 24, 2009 03:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for wal     Edit/Delete Message
OK, for some reason I left out Black Moon Lilith when I configured the man's chart, and I like to include it. I'm glad I went back to look because I see his BML is conjunct his Venus. Before I said that his carefree expressions of love have trace amounts of dark and deep Scorpio, and with BML right there it's probably even more pronounced. He may be cynical or jaded when it comes to his ideas of love and beauty, or he may even be intimidated by his own loving self and as a result carefully crafts a style of loving that dances around all of his fears and insecurities about this area.

Ok, here's your synastry. I'm assuming you're already acquainted with your own natal chart, and you're already aware of your own aspects and see how these aspects fit your makeup.

Your synastry together is very busy with plenty of aspects, so no matter what there is a definite "relationship" in terms of actual relating here. His Sun, Saturn, pluto, Jupiter, and mercury are all in your 8th house, along with the lesser bodies Vesta and Ceres. You might see him as someone who is intense and feelings probably run hot or cold, but not in between. Since his Sun and Saturn badly aspects your moon, this intensity may come across as too abrasive or headstrong, and you may find him callous and manipulating on a bad day. His Venus in your 9th house means that you connect to his sense of romanticism in a philosophical or even spiritual sense. His Uranus conjunct Venus in your 9th house may emphasize this even further, and you may find yourself changing viewpoints or making your own personal revelations as an indirect result of the relationship. His Moon in your first house shows me that you must strongly identify with his emotional side, and since he doesn't seem to be completely comfortable with his moon in his own chart (heavily squared, in 12th house) that may be a source of conflict for the two of you.

Your Sun in his first house is a good old-fashioned "compatibility" indicator. It shows that his sense of self and your personality are in the same spot. Also, your moon in his fourth house, and in Cancer no less! Even though other aspects in your chart indicate otherwise, there must be many a time where he finds your emotional nurturing to be just what the doctor ordered, although with your moon square his Sun and Saturn he probably pushes it away often. Your Mars, Mercury, and Chiron in his second house are more interesting. Because your Chiron and Mercury make harsh aspects to his other planets he may see you in the less appealing qualities of this house when it comes to finding understanding and communicating, and being a teacher and mentor for him. He may find you superficial or under-qualified to advise him or talk with him seriously.

Your Neptune is square his Ascendant, which may make you feel like he is not the type of person you originally pegged him out to be, for better or worse. Your Sun is opposite his Pluto and Mercury, although the aspect to Pluto may not be as pronounced since you have this aspect in your natal chart. Sun opposite Mercury means that his style of communication and your sense of ego are different but not unfamiliar. Many people who are neglecting one of their planets actually tend to act out the opposite of that planet's sign, so occasionally you two may find this aspect behaving more like a conjunction, depending on your moods. Communication is definitely happening between the two of you, even if you can't make sense of the final message. Meanwhile your Mercury is Conjunct his Chiron and opposite the lesser body Juno, and top of that, square his Mars. The Mercury/Chiron connection may mean that he feels he is a kind of mentor or teacher to you and that you both may feel like the way to reach mutual understanding is to "talk it out" or play teacher and student, even if its inappropriate. Juno, named after Zeus's wife, can represent an ideal wife or companion archetype in male's charts as some say, but to me it always represents the expression of commitment in some way or the other in everyone's chart. He may feel as if it is his duty to act out his Chiron towards you especially when communicating. Normally this would mean you two have incredible patience with each other when hashing things out, but his Mars square this whole thing makes it difficult because he is quick to get hot under the collar. He probably gets easily angered when you do not accept his Chiron expressions readily, and hot-headed, think-with-the-gut Mars and cool-headed, think-with-the-mind Mercury do not square each other and go unnoticed. He may find you self-righteous and belligerent even when he is the one at fault.

His Mercury is trine your Moon but conjunct to your Saturn and square your Black Moon Lilith. Many astrologers disagree on what Black Moon Lilith represents, but in my opinion we can be sure that a harsh aspect to Black Moon Lilith always shows up in people who can get under our skin or that we come to "can't stand," even if only during an argument. Harsh aspects to Black Moon Lilith make the aspecting planet's qualities much more pronounced to the Lilith person and on a bad day can annoy the heck out of them. You may find him to be over-intellectual and detached at the wrong times, and Mercury conjunct Saturn shows that you may actually begin to cut him down just for the fun of it, even if it began as a method of deflating his overly cool head.

Your Saturn and Pluto are trine to his Moon, meaning you may find him to be at the same plane when it comes to his emotions matching your sense of composure and sense of analysis. You are probably not bound to find him too emotive or inappropriate, and he may feel more open to you emotionally at times because of this. On the other hand, your Moon is square his Sun and Saturn. He may find you overly emotional at times and yet, when he really could use the emotional support, you aren't there at all. Little does he realize this is probably because his Saturn is quite cold and unfeeling to your Moon, so you just shut off completely to protect yourself from further damage.

His Pallas is trine to your Mars, and since Pallas is the activist and Mars is the warrior this aspect indicates that you two probably do well when you are actively pursuing something you both enjoy. Your Eros is trine both his Black Lilith and his Venus, which may mean that you are attuned to him sexually in a general compatibility sense. You may find him classically attractive, but nothing that slaps you in the face. One very interesting note about your synastry is that your Vesta is conjunct your sun and his Vesta is exactly conjunct his Mercury. This means that themes of Vesta (spiritualty, but more as a doctrine than the dreamy sense of the word, self-empowerment, and finding focus) are closely related to how you express your Self, and how he communicates and reasons. When your Sun is being neglected or hurt, you may feel like you are more deeply affected because your Vesta is also taking some of the beating. You may feel as if some of your power or confidence is taken away, as he may when harsh aspects to his Mercury are being played out.

So, all in all here is a quick breakdown:

The Good: Many aspects to both people's Mercury shows that this relationship is mentally stimulating, even though it can go from exciting to draining easily. There are some moments of emotional rapport and breakthrough, since the Moons do share some good aspects. Your Moon in his fourth house and your Sun in his first shows that he does understand who you are and is seeing you in many ways as you are.

Your Neptunes aren't causing a ruckus on your synastry chart by squaring and opposing personal planets and throwing smoke and mirrors into the mix. Even if you are having problems, you two are very aware about the state of affairs.

The Bad: Your Moon square his Saturn, his Mars square your Mercury and Chiron. He is quick to get angry and yet unbearably cool and detached when you are putting yourself out there. You probably feel as if he has given a centimeter to the relationship when he has given a mile. When he gets angry, communication just plain isn't happening. Your Saturn conjunct his Mercury square BML means that he may also feel like you are cutting him down and not appreciating his mental capacity.

I say these are "bad" because they are aspects that need more maintenance than a harmonious aspect and when left to its own devices, can make a relationship feel like a living hell. The good news is that you two can control these aspects by making adjustments to your attitude and practicing awareness and, as hard as it may be sometimes, communication about what's going on on the other end. For him especially, he may find great benefit in talking to a neutral third party about this relationship.

The Ugly: These are the warnings I see in your chart that perhaps warrant a little more insight and may become unavoidable problems later on, or even currently if you choose to face them. If this is a romantic relationship, it may not be a very romantic or hormonal one. There are not many major "romance" aspects. In fact, your Venus is unaspected in this synastry chart to all of the planets and the lesser bodies I use. Your expression of love may be being sent out to no real response. Because your synastry is filled with aspects it may be easy for this relationship to feel connected on several different levels, but stop and ask if your heart is really there, along with your mind, body and soul.

There are a lot of inconjunct aspects in your synastry and visually there is not a real pattern or area of focus, just a big yarn ball of aspects. I am curious to know how long you have been with this person, or if it is not a romantic relationship what the nature is, if you don't mind. If this is a long term relationship, a look at the composite chart to see what is keeping you two together romantically may be in order.

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BleuArtemis
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posted February 24, 2009 08:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BleuArtemis     Edit/Delete Message
You know what, that might not be his ascendant actually. I kind of guessed. But yes. We met in late recent January. We've only been out a few times, but he is very distant, like haven't see. He doesn't call anymore...and never responds to me getting in touch with him. He said once he actually has a problem doing this...calling people back. At 1am on Valentines day he txted me inviting me for breakfast...I replied "what time?" he never wrote me back. We arn't compatible...I just had so much playful fun with him and enjoy talking with him so much. But I was starting to feel bad, I have this bad habit of being super judgmental and I think he got a big brunt of that. I wish I could erase my behavior, here I'm thinking I'm flirting playful but it probably came off as me cutting him down. So now, he's gone I think. Its OK, I haven't a relationship in 4 years, I've just been in affairs with emotionally unavailable people/slash super aloof individuals. I don't know whats wrong with me, makes me so sad. I feel like I'll never be loved. I'm super argumentative and the way I show affection is ridiculous. by not showing it or running away or arguing. I'm not sure why this is. Thank you so much for doing all of this. I actually don't know much about myself romantically. I've just analyzed others. But I always need perspective which is why I come here, cause I know I can easily project.
I do wonder why I'm attracted to him. We haven't even kissed.All I know, is that I wanted more time with him, but it abruptly halted.

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wal
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posted February 24, 2009 01:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wal     Edit/Delete Message
If you're not 100% on his ascendant, his moon could be in Pisces instead of Aquarius, which actually sounds a bit more like him. I bet his moon is on the cusp or in Pisces. About the not calling back, I definitely see that in his chart. It's the Sun/Jupiter/Saturn that keeps him purposefully screwing things up. Also, on a more literal level, his Mercury is inconjunct his Venus which usually means that he may always be tongue-tied or not knowing what to say when it comes to romantic relationships.

I see in your natal that you've got your Sun and Mars opposing Saturn. The Sun/Mars and Saturn aspect is usually the culprit when it comes to people not being able to jump into relationships. I have the exact same thing going on in my natal except it's a square, so I really feel the brunt of it too. In astrology, it's all about aspects, aspects, aspects; finding someone with good aspects to your Mercury and Moon and brings your Sun out from under Saturn...on a practical level though it's all about what really feels right and listening to your heart. No matter how long it takes to find, a good relationship is out there for you, trust me. There's just too much diversity out there for it not to be true. Keep your chin up!

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BleuArtemis
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posted February 24, 2009 02:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BleuArtemis     Edit/Delete Message
Thank You...I woke up crying cause I felt so lonely. You've made me feel better.

About him, well, I won't pressure him actually going to leave it alone. I hope I get a friendship going with him at least...its been a while since someone made me feel comfortably light hearted. And with my Saturn in scorpio and mars in taurus its hard for me to feel relaxed.

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