posted July 04, 2009 12:52 AM         

One of the most glaring positives is that you have that infamous "Asc/Desc laying across the other's IC/MC" thing, which is really favorable. Also your Moon is almost directly on top of his midheaven, which I've always took to mean he felt an instant "recognition" when he met you as someone who could really help him grow emotionally. Throw your Saturn in there as well! Did you kind of hit each other like a ton of bricks?

Your Moon's are inconjunct, though, which is always kind of a blind side. You might not always understand why he acts the way he does or says the things he says. 11th house Sag Moon strikes me as particularly restless/hard to pin down.

posted July 04, 2009 01:17 AM         

He definitely felt instantly that I was someone tied to his growth (he has said so--he says he was a totally different person before he met me)...when I first met him I thought he was hot and I really liked him, but I didn't see it turning into anything like this for me (where I feel like he's kind of a symbol of the ways I need to transform but I'm not brave enough)...I thought it would just be a really fun friendship.

When we first started hanging out, I felt really overwhelmed--I was still breaking up with a Libra and I was dealing with my first unrequited situation, with Pisces Moon Man, so my first thought with this guy was--"Thank god he's not a Scorpio!" I ALWAYS guess Sun Signs right and I had this guy pegged as a nice Saggie with some Virgo or Libra, and I was soooo wrong, and, my god, he is SOOOO Scorpionic.

In a way I'm really glad we never hooked up when we first met, because I think that would've been it, then we both would've moved on, and I am glad we became friends.

With my attraction to him, I didn't see myself coming. I was so frozen/shy/inexperienced after being in a long-term relationship for so long that I didn't realize he was hitting on me till he had already given up. I sort of sent him away, and then he came back, and then we started getting really close, and then I got all attracted/obsessed with him that way...

And now I am too shy to even LOOK at him. And he's hurt and miffed, and I keep getting more scared and frozen. Maybe he just isn't the right guy for me to get sexual with, but, it's embarrassing to admit this, but the last time I slept with someone it made me think about him and realize I wanted him.

Thanks for your insights!

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Your Moon's are inconjunct, though, which is always kind of a blind side.

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posted July 04, 2009 10:11 AM         

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With NN conjunct SN in synastry, each person is coming from a place the other hasn't been- each comfort zone will be foreign to the other... This can be great IF those people choose to learn from one another, IF they're willing to listen to each other and grow - because it could be terrifying to each of them to be confronted with the embodiment of where they're afraid to go. Such a pairing could be a godsend to people stuck in their SNs and wanting to stretch into new territory.

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That might explain why, even though you feel somehow that he's there to teach you something important, you're hesitating. Does he feel totally out of your comfort zone?
It seems to me from what you say that he knows what he wants (SCORPIO, hahah). Now, we both know I have a problem with over-emoting (haha), but I think the best way to erase all the "hurt and miffed" (if you want to, that is) would be to tell him straight out that you thought of him the last time you had sex. His super Scorp self will do a complete 180- especially with his Venus/Mars in Virgo, all wanting to prove it and give you the services you desire? Hoo boy.

Looking at your natals, I'd say he's the PERFECT person for you to be sexually involved with, if what you want is a good sexual relationship. It's possible he has some things to teach you in that arena, even if it's just to wake you up to a new place in yourself sexually. He's a good friend who feels profoundly changed by you, you already really like him, and you have earthy sexual aspects up the wazz here. The fact that you rebuffed him at first is just going to light his Mars/Pluto Scorpness right up- you are now a CHALLENGE.

Also, just like your Moon conjunct his MC makes him feel like you can help him grow emotionally, his Pluto is on yours- meaning you feel like he could definitely help you transform for the better; and with his Angel there as well, it looks like that's some change he's more than able and willing to give.

Also, a bit more on Moon inconjunctions from a man named Adam Link:

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The easiest way to look at inconjuncts (quincunxes) is aspects of adjustment. The two signs have little or nothing in common, so every time the two planets interact between you and your s.o., adjustments must be made on both sides. This is not necessarily bad, mind you....I've seen relationships grow very close over the years because the people were both wiling to adjust, adapt, compromise. But it CAN be difficult, especially in the beginnings, because the differences are sometimes so far apart it is almost like they speak different languages where the inconjunct planets are concerned.

Moon inconjunct Moon is a particularly interesting one. Among other things, your Moon is what makes you feel secure, comfortable; and it is also how you typically express your feelings....as well as some day to day rhythms you each have that you take for granted. Sometimes this means your day to day habits are out of synch; it can also mean that each of you has difficulty understanding what it takes to make the other person secure and comfortable.

Of course, there can be a lot to modify the above. If you have good aspects to his Moon otherwise, and he has good aspects to your Moon, these other planets will be there to make the adjustments relatively painless. You can draw upon them to help each of you to learn about the differences, and these differences then only serve to bring you two closer together.

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posted July 04, 2009 01:22 PM         

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but I think the best way to erase all the "hurt and miffed" (if you want to, that is) would be to tell him straight out that you thought of him the last time you had sex. His super Scorp self will do a complete 180- especially with his Venus/Mars in Virgo, all wanting to prove it and give you the services you desire? Hoo boy.

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WOO, this is a bold idea! I wonder if I would ever have the nerve? It's kind of appealing, though. Is it TOO bold/not feminine enough?

I have no idea what the Leo-Scorpio pull is, but my ideal, dream outcome for this situation would be that I have some wonderful sex with this one and it does not end up humiliating me or breaking my heart and we are able to be platonic friends afterwards, and I fall for a guy who is NOT a SCORPIO. I'm so over the Scorpio thing...all their vibes and intensity and the way everything gets all complicated, and the way when they sting, they die along with their victim.

This guy is so controlling and arrogant, and also very profound and intuitive...but because of his Sag moon (and also because of the particulars of our connection), unlike a normal Scorpio, he BRAGS about it. It's annoying but also cute.

I'm going to think seriously about taking your advice. Right now, I'm too scared, but maybe that is what the relationship is about lesson-wise--yes, actually, I think that's it! It's about not being afraid to express that side of myself.

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Does he feel totally out of your comfort zone?

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posted July 04, 2009 09:04 PM         

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Is it TOO bold/not feminine enough?

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I've always been a tomboy and pretty aggressive sexually (11th Aries Sun, 9th Moon, 10th Venus, 5th Mars!), so I'm probably the last person who could tell you about this. I can say, though, that I have NEVER known a man who didn't immediately bow down at the first sign of having his ego (especially sexually) stroked. And a chance to prove his prowess over ANOTHER man? Kid in a candy store.

I think with a lot of men it's kind of a relief, too, when women are sexually direct- they get so caught up in what is and is not respectful/proper/pushing, that they stop taking action altogether (or at least get super neurotic about it). Not that I'm saying I wish they would stop concerning themselves with being respectful, just that I understand why it's important for me to pick up a little (or all, ha) of the slack in that regard.

Based just on your charts alone, I'd say a sexual relationship here is not just likely to happen but likely to be GREAT. As far as staying friends afterward, though? I think that would depend on him. From my understanding, Scorpio can really be on either side of the "friends with benefits" coin depending if/where their feelings are invested. And if he sees you as some kind of beacon of hope (which, astrologically at least, looks likely) his feelings & ego are both likely to be hurt and then STING! STING!

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This guy is so controlling and arrogant, and also very profound and intuitive

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Sounds like my kind of guy! haha. I think you might be the first woman I've met besides myself who thinks arrogance is adorable. Is that a fire lady thing?

posted July 04, 2009 09:23 PM         

The healthiest course of action here might be Jazzersize, seriously.