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Lucia23
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posted September 24, 2009 02:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Todd...I'm amazed by your accuracy with other composites...I would love your insight on this one.

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todd
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posted September 25, 2009 08:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message
hi lucia

hmmm don't know if you'll like this one lol.
this composite has RED FLAGS all over it.
the venus/sun midpoint and the saturn/moon midpoint conjunct mars and square to neptune.
the venus/sun and saturn/moon conjunct mars would normally imply that you are extremely attracted and devoted to this man.but there are square to neptune which is the biggest sign of insincerity and deception one can have.not only deceptive but an evil intent also with the mars/pluto midpoint conjunct the mercury/sun conjunction.the sun/mercury aspect shows a open line of communication but with the mars/pluto there also it indicates a malicious intent.the mars/neptune midpoint is conjunct the pluto/uranus midpoint which is another ominious aspect as it implies deceptive behavior with selfish intent.the mercury/pluto midpoint is sqaure to the satrun/chiron midpoint which shows concealmenbt of thoughts which again are selfish abd malicious in nature.
the moon/saturn conjunction to the venus/sun conjunction can show an also psychotic need to enjoy pain or the infliction of pain.
the neptuen in conjunction with the other malicioyus aspects indicates a substance abuse problem .
the only positive aspect is the venus opposed to jupiter which shows that you have really enjoyed yourself when you are out with him .but it also implies that partying is the main activity and there is an over indulgence in substances,alcohol or other.
i have to wonder what all this subterfuge is with by him.
one speculation is that you are economically more secure than he and he may be in it for the classic..."your money".but this is a quess.what is certain is that this relationship ,if it exist, is headed for trouble.i can see nothing other than malicious intent from him. BE CAREFUL.

todd

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Lucia23
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posted September 25, 2009 09:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message
Woo, thanks Todd! Lots of interesting food for thought. I don't have any $$ to speak of, so it's not that. The first thing that leapt to mind when I was reading this was that maybe it's ME with the malicious intent, since I want certain things from him...but I'm certainly not evil about it, and it's on a very subtle level. So it must be him who's malicious...unless we bring out a sort of manipulation in each other? We almost always hang out sober and during the daytime, although we've spent a few late nights where we drank moderately...so the partying/substance abuse thing hasn't come up yet in the relationship. Interestingly with Neptune, though...he recently had a nightmare about me! We show up a lot in each other's dreams...one of mine about him was scary, too, although he wasn't malicious in it. But I didn't feel completely safe.

Anyway, we're not very involved, so it's good to hear a warning BEFORE it's too late! I'll keep my eyes/ears open.

(Ugh, the problem now--with my full 8th house--is that now I'm all curious about what his nefarious intention is, so instead of dropping it, I have the urge to poke at it until I find out. Which, with his 12th house Mars-Venus square Neptune, I will probably never ever find out.)

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todd
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posted September 26, 2009 01:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message
as i've say be careful as the neptune square can be very deceptive.he does have a strong charisma that you probably feel,almost an magnetic attraction arouind him.you might do a background check to satisfy your curiosity.

todd

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Lucia23
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posted September 26, 2009 03:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message
Todd, since I'm trying to learn to read composites...

In looking at the composite, how would you determine that one person or another was the deceptive one (raising red flags for the other)...or that one person or the other was very attracted/devoted/etc? Do you use the midpoints to guesstimate backwards to natal aspects?

When I (try to) read a composite, I read it as charting the energies of the relationship as its own discrete entity, separate from each person or even their interaction...and one of the reasons I find it less useful than synastry is that I can't tell who is who. So if I saw a lot of Neptunian red flags in a composite, I might think, "There's a danger that deception/subterfuge/manipulation are major themes in this relationship, and the way that these two people relate expresses those energies."

But what, in the composite, would make you assume:
a) That it's a relationship between me (the querent) and a man...and an avoidable one, at that...rather than a relationship between, say, me and my sister, my friend F. and her girlfriend of 12 years, my parents, etc? Is that just guessing, or is there something in the composite that makes that evident?
b) That the man is the one who is deceptive and dangerous to me in that way, rather than the other way around? Or, rather than both people expressing those energies in the relationship? How would you conclude that I was extremely attracted/devoted and HE was insincere, rather than vice-versa, or some combination?

I am able to read synastry because I can see who is who--you seem to use composites that way (at least in this case), and I'm not sure how. I guess more like comparing two natals, using the midpoints to get back to the real natal placements of each person's planets?

I might like using composites better if I could learn to see that sort of thing from the chart.

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EighthMoon
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posted October 03, 2009 02:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EighthMoon     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Todd,

Sorry to be a buttinski on the thread. I'm also learning more about composites and I'm curious as to the method you're using.

The composite is the midpoint between the two charts...so you are then looking at certain midpoints of the composite itself? I'm interested in this as I've never seen it before.

Thanks!

8th

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