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starzy54
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posted February 17, 2010 07:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starzy54     Edit/Delete Message
Hi I am just about at my wits end with this situation of mine.My family practices arranged marriages.I am currently engaged to someone in secret,without my family's knowledge.(He is not even the same culture as i am,a no-no in my family)I wonder if our Engagement will actually bloom into a marriage or not,or if my family will possibly intervene and stop that from happening.
Sometimes i even wonder if giving into my family and letting them pick a suitor for me would be the right thing to do,since it will save a lot of trouble etc..I love the man i am engaged to,but sometimes i don't trust my heart or instincts..do my charts say anything?

Here is my birth info
as well as the man i am engaged to.
Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated! thank you

Me:Female born Jan 6th 1987 7:45 am
Queens NY USA

Him:Male born March 9th 1984 time unknown
Beckley WV USA

We want to get married or even elope by October 25th 2010

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iQ
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posted February 19, 2010 04:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message
Both of you have seriously afflicted charts.
Both of you have a Grand Cross.

You have a packed 12th House. Too much of secrecy will be painful.

He has an afflicted personality, if he is not studying hi tech or MBA in an Ivy League School, then he has just the right chart to be an angry, abusive, alcoholic husband a couple of years from now.

Some of his dangerous aspects:
1. Pisces Sun square EROS exact
2. Scorpio Mars sq Venus exact
3. Mars oppose LUST in Taurus exact.
4. Mars square UNION
5. Saturn retrograde in Scorpio
6. Neptune quincunx Moon and ANGEL.
7. Neptune conj SWINDLE exact
8. Retro Pluto conj NEMESIS exact.

I cannot comment on whether arranged marriage is better for you or not, but eloping with this guy would be disastrous for both. Composite Saturn opposes VALENTINE and Composite Pluto and UNION oppose Composite Moon and BODA. Composite SWINDLE conjuncts Comp Saturn exact. Composite Saturn opposes Composite PANDORA exact.

Assured suffering, unless the boy is graduating in Nano Technology from Stanford or MIT. The very geeky types have a way of overcoming abusive aspects through knowledge and hard work.

Practically speaking, you will never have famly support again if you elope, and life will become a nightmare when he shows his true colours. Even the date you have chosen to elope has red flags. Transit SWINDLE conjunct your Sun, Tr Saturn conj Tr LIE and Tr Mars conjunct your Natal Venus.

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lindaGreg
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From: Melbourne, VIC, Australia
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posted February 19, 2010 05:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lindaGreg     Edit/Delete Message
Hi IQ,

Can you please check mine?

My details:
Date & Time of Birth: 01 Sep 1977, 08:30 PM
Place of Birth: Hyderabad, India

His Details:
Date & Time of Birth: 02 Jan 1961, 08:00 PM
Place of Birth: Le Mars, Iowa, USA

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starzy54
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posted February 19, 2010 03:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starzy54     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you very much IQ

He is currently attending college and studying
Military history,he hopes to become a professor.He may even delve into Architecture
studies at some point.He is the Geeky type.Very intellectual and interested in knowledge in all forms.I wonder if that is enough to offset his potential abusive nature.As of yet he has shown no signs of abuse,but does have a temper with his family.

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iQ
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posted February 20, 2010 06:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message
Dont want to sound like your elder brother, but if your boy can land a Professor's job with full economic stability, then he wont play out the abusive aspects, he will be able to transcend them.

And in any case, try avoiding any hasty decisions like eloping, till he is financially secure.

If he is as crazy about you as you love him, he should consider appeasing your community. This happens all the time in India. The inimical girl's family does a 180 degrees if the boy does a gesture like conversion to the girl's faith or something. They start treating him like the son!

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starzy54
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posted February 20, 2010 06:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starzy54     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you again IQ for the advice.

I don't have an older brother so your guidance is well appreciated.I am thinking of having him confront my family in a respectful way to gain their blessing rather than "steal" away their daughter.Not only will they like his gesture but that will also keep a more peaceful balance between me and my family...hopefully.

Either way,we will probably wait until he is financially secure.My family puts a lot of consideration into the fact weather he would be able to take care of me or not.If he has money than my family will probably be way more open to him.

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LEXX
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posted February 20, 2010 08:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
starzy54
I do not agree with the concept that a fellow graduating from Stanford or MIT, or being highly intellectual, and wealthy, would guarantee his being a non abusive person. I have known far too many people with advanced degrees who are very very cruel selfish abusive people, and often snobbish, egotistical gold diggers and social climbers, bragging about their intelligence and ultra vain about their bodies, (and their spouse has to be perfect and stay perfect looking or they will dump them eventually for a new perfect bodied one) and will advance their interests at any cost, even hurting people.
Money and degrees do not automatically make a person a good person.
Lack of money or degrees does not automatically make a person a bad person.
Those two concepts are seriously bigoted stereotype thinking.

I have known non abusive blue collar workers and farmers, mechanics, and so forth, who were some of the sweetest guys you could hope to meet.

In my opinion, if he is kind to you and you love him deeply (not lust) and he feels the same about you, then consider being with him instead of taking a chance on an unknown person or one you do not love.

Astrology can give us insights, but as I have said before;
Never base your important decisions on any form of divination, be it Astrology, Tarot, Lexigrams, or readings of any kind.
They can help guide you but you must follow logic and common sense along with your feelings on such matters.

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I am thinking of having him confront my family in a respectful way to gain their blessing rather than "steal" away their daughter.Not only will they like his gesture but that will also keep a more peaceful balance between me and my family...hopefully.

Either way,we will probably wait until he is financially secure.My family puts a lot of consideration into the fact weather he would be able to take care of me or not.If he has money than my family will probably be way more open to him.



VERY WISE THINKING starzy54
Beware though of marrying for money.

I wish you good luck in love and your life .

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starzy54
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posted February 21, 2010 01:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for starzy54     Edit/Delete Message
You know,I do not know what is up with me lately,sometimes i fail to see the simplest things! You have a very true point Lex.
Money or career really has nothing to do with someones capacity for love and kindness.
I may not have a lot of money,but that doesn't mean I can't love someone to the fullest extent.That goes for everyone.Thank you for your input,and for the well wishes =)
Good luck to you too in your life as well!

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LEXX
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posted February 21, 2010 07:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
starzy54
It is definitely not easy being poor.
I am a poor person, bankrupt and disabled.
I have been courted by a few very wealthy highly educated men.
However I did not love them.
I chose to marry my husband I am with now for love and the fact that he and I are mental and spiritual equals.
I would love to be wealthy or at least not poor, but would never trade true love for wealth.
Also I should point out that having a high IQ does not guarantee one will automatically be wealthy or be able to afford college.
Both my husband and I have well above genius intelligence, but the situations in our childhoods and lives to date have made getting out of poverty near to impossible.
Hopefully our fortune will improve eventually.
However like I said,
I would never trade true love and companionship for wealth.
Best of luck to you starzy54.

PS. My family has disowned me and is ashamed of me for marrying a man they did not approve of who was and is not wealthy.
They are mostly all quite well off financially.
Oddly they were not always that way.
Wealth has turned them into serious snobs who look down on people with less than they have. Including me and my husband.
Well, I have found that my chosen family is my real family, unlike my not chosen blood family.


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